OFFICIAL NIKE AIR COMMAND FORCE PUMP & 180 PUMP RETRO THREAD (**NEW ACTUAL PIC ON PG 1)

Patents don't work on the "dibs" principal..And it does matter when Nike made theirs..They did one, the Pressure, and then a couple years later did Mr. Robinson's versions..So if Nike was worried about getting sued in court then why would they try to file their own patent and produce pump technology in several different years?..And you really think that Reebok thought Nike would retro these shoes a good 10 years before retro's even started?..Sorry buddy but that makes no sense whatsoever..
  

 

I can see Nike just being Lazy and halfway doing this and chalking it up to patent laws.To say we have Ewings dropping you would think Nike would do more for their rival big mans shoe.Its just seems like didn't try hard enough .I expected more from Nike on this shoe.This shoe is iconic of anera was at the height of one of the greatest rivalries in sports and sneaker history.Nike is doing itself,Us and The Admiral a disservice .We just wanted the shoe to be true to the original you all made it this far and you all couldn't give us 100 percent.Nike is home to some of the most innovative designers in the world you mean to tell me these guys couldn't fix this shoe up properly.

 

I'm not buying the patent argument. Please correct me if I'm wrong but a patent protects someone from stealing your technology/invention and duplicating it for profit. I could undestand if Nike stole Reebok's Pump design, however, they are different. That's like Playstation patenting their console and Microsoft not being able to make the Xbox. Serves the same purpose, just differently.

“the right to exclude others from making, using, offering for sale, or selling

 

NIKE DROPPED THE BALL, this is DEFINALTLY NOT because of a patent, its because they didn't want to do all that work. guaranteed !!!

 

Why are some of you all saying these would be $200 + if when they drop ????? There just some high top Nikes with a pump system that Reebok has been making forever  And yes David Robinson use to wear them blah blah blah but there not a pair of Jordans, Lebrons, Foamposites, or Yeezys which are the only Nikes that are over $200 right now. And to put these in the same category as any of those shoes I just listed doesn't even make sense .  If these shoes are anything over $140 there's a problem  but I might get a pair if they come out in one of the more slacker shoe release months this year.

 

agreed. not to start a war, but this dude has a history of posting a lot of misinformation. "Reebok probably figured that Nike would eventually retro these due to their popularity so they probably filed the patent to prevent a true retro..." c'mon man.

 

Funny how there were Sneaker/Shoe heads back then. If that is the case also include Hyperbeasts, and Resellers. You know one can't live without the other.

 

Seems like its possible for Nike to do it they just have to cite Reebok which they wont do out of pride

 

Look Shonuff, im glad you're a fan of mines and all, but if you have a problem with me and my posts, feel free to man up and PM me. this isnt the place for that.
its just funny that people beg for years for Nike to retro this shoe and when they do, they just complain that it isn't the same as they remembered. no matter what Nike does, people will still complain.

Retro the shoe with no Pump and people complain about it.

Retro the shoe with the Pump and people will get mad that Nike is charging $225 for something that used to cost $135 AND complain about the leather quality.

Retro the shoe with near OG quality and people will complain that the design is TOO out there and will rot on outlet shelves (see Air Carnivores)

Point of the matter is to stop complaining and be thankful for what you do get. god knows when Nike will release another hi-top retro.

 

You make it sound like we're starving children talking about food   I'm sorry, I definitely can't cosign this statement.  If people don't complain things don't change.  You don't wait around 20+ years for a shoe to release only to settle on a crappy version.  As I stated earlier, they could do away with the actual function of the pump (which we still don't know the real reason it was left off) but they should have kept it visually the same.  In all honesty, this isn't the same shoe anymore so you almost can't call it a 180 pump retro.


I can understand this, but sometimes if you're patient something good will come out of a situation. I mean, look how many crappy colorways of the SC Trainer II before we got the good ones
side note: are you part of the OSD crew? I know quite a few members (paper chaser, feeway, chadio, rox, and mysoletokeep) and they're always fun to kick it with.

 

Come on bro, I believe the shoe retailed at $150 when it first released it has to be up there with that list of yours I believe it was the most expensive shoe at that Nike ever released at that time. Lol. 

 

why should I pm you? Man up? Are you serious? You want to set up a meet up so we can fight about shoes?  I'm simply pointing out the fact that you like to post things that are obviously made up falsehoods on various occasions. You blame the older heads for not teaching the younger kids about quality thus the reason for the poor quality that we have now. You tell everyone to stop complaining about quality, but then say you don't care because you get the shoes half off anyways....
This is a shoe discussion site, you can post whatever you want(I usually just ignore it), but please stop telling people who want Nike to produce a better product to stop complaining just because you're fine with crappy quality. PS PM sent.

 

you say this and yet you STILL PM me, the irony  you want Nike to produce a better product? thats fine and I can agree with that. but boycott their product and get in direct contact with them to voice your issue. don't just go on a rant and complain about things used to be. you did the same thing with the white cement IVs. 
everyone is entitled to their own opinion and mine is that I like the way that these came out. are they perfect? no, not in the least. but im not going to track down a OG pair simply to stare at. there's no need to throw subliminals based on what I think and what I've heard from several people.

 

No pump = no cop

 

you think Nike is doing this release to test the popularity of this shoe? maybe if these sell well enough then Nike will produce the pump version next year.

 

I agree. Who knows, maybe the positive sales of these in conjunction with people complaining about the lack of a pump system will push Nike to do these and the Command Forces justice and release them the proper way. It worked after Nike released those god awful SC Trainer IIs with the vulcanized sole.

 

Dude F these half *%@ retros! It's pump or bust, literally. Would you buy a pair of Reebok Pumps without the pump, eventhough they looked close? Thats like buying Air Max 95s without the bubble.....Come On Man!!

 

My sentiments exactly.  I'd rather keep the money in my pocket if they're not going to do it right.