***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[rexanglorum]

I understand why certain Dems support removing the cap. I get the politics of it.

I just oppose it because of my general distaste for regressive taxes. The people really being squeezed by this are those on the upper end of the income bracket

The only argument I have heard that I am somewhat sympathetic to is that these states have relatively bigger welfare systems so you are directly supporting them with SALT. And I kinda see that point but I would prefer we have a larger federally funded and administered welfare state and give more tax breaks to lower-income people.

But what is really pissing me off is that now some centrist Dems have issues with other taxes increases Biden is proposing. Like if you want SALT cap removed, ok, but ****ing stop there. It is one thing to look out of the upper-middle class, it is a whole other thing to look out for millionaires and billionaires.

I would be less pissed about if we were doing more to address housing costs for lower-income people so they can afford to live in these same states and take advantage of the relatively higher social spending.

I’ve been saying, I don’t want a tax cut but given the current political realities, I want an unlimited SALT deduction along with even higher California tax rates. Basically, Sacramento is more left than Washington. Even when there’s a Democratic trifecta in DC, our counter majoritarian institutions make it so that conservatives have an outsized influence in national politics. Add to that the economic reality that DC can print money and States largely have to pay as they go. So give the governing entity, that tries harder to help low income people and has more fiscal constraints, an enhanced ability to raise money and marginally reduce the amount of dollars that get remitted to the Federal government which could easily print the difference.

Big picture though, it’s not huge either way. The elasticity of inter State capital flight is vastly overstated by the right and ultimately, the federal government is the primary driver of domestic policy.

And for anyone who doesn’t want to hear a marginal-this-monetary-policy-that argument. The best shorthand argument against the SALT cap is that Donald Trump supported the SALT cap so you know it’s bad.

 

[biggie62]

I’ve been saying, I don’t want a tax cut but given the current political realities, I want an unlimited SALT deduction along with even higher California tax rates. Basically, Sacramento is more left than Washington. Even when there’s a Democratic trifecta in DC, our counter majoritarian institutions make it so that conservatives have an outsized influence in national politics. Add to that the economic reality that DC can print money and States largely have to pay as they go. So give the governing entity, that tries harder to help low income people and has more fiscal constraints, an enhanced ability to raise money and marginally reduce the amount of dollars that get remitted to the Federal government which could easily print the difference.

Big picture though, it’s not huge either way. The elasticity of inter State capital flight is vastly overstated by the right and ultimately, the federal government is the primary driver of domestic policy.

And for anyone who doesn’t want to hear a marginal-this-monetary-policy-that argument. The best shorthand argument against the SALT cap is that Donald Trump supported the SALT cap so you know it’s bad.

It is exaggerated somewhat. Because a bigger push for companies going to lower tax states isn’t necessarily for their own tax savings. The way taxes for corporations work is apportionment is almost exclusively all sales based so where you’re domiciled makes zero difference. It’s employees moving to cheaper places because NYC wnd Northern California is unlivable if you want to buy a home on even a 150k salary. It’s pretty insane.

 

[IATT]

 

[rexanglorum]

It is exaggerated somewhat. Because a bigger push for companies going to lower tax states isn’t necessarily for their own tax savings. The way taxes for corporations work is apportionment is almost exclusively all sales based so where you’re domiciled makes zero difference. It’s employees moving to cheaper places because NYC wnd Northern California is unlivable if you want to buy a home on even a 150k salary. It’s pretty insane.

Absolutely, whenever I hear some saying that every single business is leaving California. I say that to the extent that some do, it’s because unaffordable housing makes recruiting and retention of employees harder. But that’s the result of government being too weak or too enthralled to capital. It’s not the “socialism” that causes some firms to move out, it’s the lack of political power needed to make housing more affordable that causes some firms to leave.

 

[Nike Jordan]

They meant to say a $100k for a down payment on a house in Brooklyn, right?

 

[IATT]

 

[marikomorose]

ninja convincing himself that he's not black is wild.

 

[aepps20]

ninja convincing himself that he's not black is wild.

Da OG colorway was shining in that pic

 

[dmbrhs]

They meant to say a $100k for a down payment on a house in Brooklyn, right?

Would have been funny if that's the direction the exchange went.

"We meant the median down payment"
"20% is $180,000...care to further clarify the "median"?"

 

[Belgium]

Yikes

 

[fluid hips]

This sums up the current political climate.

People with money or people backed by corporations to further their interests are in the political arena

 

[friscostylez]

RustyShackleford

what's your opinion on us extending our stay in the middle east to 9/11? been at least two attacks since then although the Taliban hasn't taken credit for any attack

 

[RustyShackleford]

Gather one gather all, ya boy got important breaking news!!!

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Spoiler

Ya boy got em. Casual Friday's up at my job finna be lit. Dem Trader Joes shoppers finna get flexed on. Those fools at the International market don't know what is waiting for them.

So to all the people that supported me through my journey, and especially my mans plansb for having my back...

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[RustyShackleford]

RustyShackleford

what's your opinion on us extending our stay in the middle east to 9/11? been at least two attacks since then although the Taliban hasn't taken credit for any attack

There is no perfect solution, America is stuck between two imperfect choices. But we have been there for damn near two decades, it has to end sometime.

On everything considered, it is the right move. Even though I know there will be some bad consequences of it.

I just hope America can get all the locals that helped us to safety (especially in America) before they leave.

 

[rexanglorum]

When it's 2029 and a popular front storms the White House to remove the pretender president Mike Lindell, and install a bonafide consent-of-the-governed government founded on principles of holistic and restorative justice, the NT contingent will look glorious. The only thing slowing us down will be the fact that DS kicks can sometimes slip a bit. Nevertheless, A cavalcade of Dunks, Forces, III's, VII's (they match the Vick Jersey so well), XI's, XIII's, XIV's, and Air Maxes will stride forward but it will be led by a pair of Cement and Carolina Blue IV's leading the way.

 

[friscostylez]

There is no perfect solution, America is stuck between two imperfect choices. But we have been there for damn near two decades, it has to end sometime.

On everything considered, it is the right move. Even though I know there will be some bad consequences of it.

I just hope America can get all the locals that helped us to safety (especially in America) before they leave.

No, I meant weren't we scheduled to leave May 2021 but Biden extended the stay to September? I'm legit confused on why.

 

[RustyShackleford]

No, I meant weren't we scheduled to leave May 2021 but Biden extended the stay to September? I'm legit confused on why.

Probably had their reasons from the Pentagon. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think it makes that big of a difference at this point. It like only 4 months.

 

[noskey]

Also. As an extra thank you, I donated $100 to a charity of Plansb's choosing. And he matched my donation. So the best thing about all this is that some money is going to a good cause to help people that deserve it.

I, and countless others, applaud your decision (both of yalls) to support a crucial cause in this very trying time. With donations like yours, and ongoing support from the TRUE Americans in this country, we may finally, someday, have a way to beat the cancer once and for all.

The cancer that is - liberalism. Your donations to OUR TRUE PRESIDENT will help rectify this cancerous cancel culture and demonic Democratic democracy. I for one, thank you for your donations to the TRUMP 2024 CAMPAIGN COFFERS. The coffers will be made great again

As I saw an oversized car flag say so eloquently on my trip to the grocery store today, "TRUMP 2024. NO MORE BULL****." Now ain't that Merica

Spoiler

Congrats on the 4s Rusty. I feel like we've all seen a long-running story arc finally have its deserved and satisfying conclusion.

 

[hymen man]

Not sure where else to say it, but this will suffice..

**** ISRAEL.

 

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[had pants]

 

[had pants]

 

[Public Enemy]

 

[blastercombo]

White people really ruin everything

 

[Nike Jordan]

How bad is it when a Cheney starts talking sense?