***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[rexanglorum]

Then if those moderates flip and vote Trump, then **** them too. I have no interest in defending such a scumbag move.

However constantly bringing up the ****ty behavior of centrist doesn't excuse the behavior of entitled leftist. If someone is only gonna stay home because Bernie Sanders didn't get nominated, that is scumbag behavior.

**** both groups. They are both buffoons

I agree with you there. And maybe I'll be proven wrong and Sanders gets the nomination and he enjoys a carry over rate near 100% in the general and I'll be forced to reevaluate the motives and alignments of the American electorate.

 

[IATT]

 

[sonoftony]

Monica Lewinsky aged well

 

[blastercombo]

If news like this makes you feel the current administration is full of subhuman monsters, consider registering to vote and volunteering in the upcoming elections:

”but this is for MS13”

 

[Nike Jordan]

Donna Bolivia has been hired by Fox News. RustyShackleford

 

[elpablo21]

It's a witchhunt against the Libs

 

[Belgium]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cambr...exander-nix-julian-wheatland?via=twitter_page
Cambridge Analytica Secrets Allegedly Covered Up by Trump Campaign Veterans
The High Court in London heard that former insiders, including Rebekah Mercer, were pulling the strings of “biased” officials responsible for the fate of the company.

British political consultants that worked for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign liked to boast that they could deploy dirty tricks and twist democracies all over the world without the risk of detection.

The High Court in London heard on Monday that Cambridge Analytica was up to its old tricks from beyond the grave—by surreptitiously trying to halt investigations that could expose allegedly nefarious tactics before the company was shut down for good.

The company filed for the British equivalent of chapter 11 bankruptcy last year after secret recordings of its boss Alexander Nix emerged in which he claimed that Trump’s data gurus had carried out illicit election campaigns all over the world. The company was also accused of using up to 87 million clandestinely harvested Facebook profiles to create a state of the art voter database that helped Trump win election in 2016.

A lawyer representing a New York professor, who believes his private data was misused by the notorious campaign operatives, claims Cambridge Analytica’s data secrets are being shielded from justice and exposure by administrators in the pay of a shadow company set up by a band of executives linked to the Trump campaign veterans.

The High Court heard that administrators had deliberately misled a judge during a previous hearing by obfuscating their financial links to Emerdata, a company which was set up by Alexander Nix, Rebekah Mercer, and other senior figures who were previously involved with Cambridge Analytica.

In Britain, court-appointed administrators are supposed to work independently on behalf of all creditors to take over running of the company, similar to chapter 11 bankruptcy in the U.S. But the legal team of David Carroll, an associate professor at Parsons School in New York who is fighting for access to the data compiled on him, claimed that the administrator of Cambridge Analytica has succumbed to undue influence. Emerdata appointed the administrator and subsequently committed to pay them up to $1 million in fees.

The administrators, Vincent Green and Mark Newman of Crowe U.K. LLP, were accused of trying to liquidate the company before a full investigation into the company could be held.

“It is extremely unusual, in my submission, to have the fees of an administrator underwritten effectively by the people who may themselves be the principal focus of any subsequent investigation,” said Andreas Gledhill Q.C., the lawyer representing Carroll in court.

Carroll’s team hope the High Court judge will fire the administrator and pass the case to government receivers who would then appoint a new administrator willing to investigate legal breaches at Cambridge Analytica, and five other interrelated companies.

“This needs to go to the official receiver and there needs to be a whole set of investigations—someone needs to crack the vault,” Ravi Naik, a lawyer for Carroll told The Daily Beast outside court. “Without this case being successful, there cannot be an investigation because the company will liquidate. This is the dying embers.”

In documents submitted to the court, Gledhill claimed that Emerdata was due to pay the administrator up to £800,000 ($1million) but had only handed over around £220,000 ($290,000) so far.

“With their legal fees funded by Emerdata, the administrators have treated this as hostile litigation between themselves and Mr. Carroll, making their lack of independence abundantly clear,” Gledhill said.

Rebekah and Jennifer Mercer, daughters of billionaire Trump donor Robert Mercer, are listed as directors of Emerdata. As is former Cambridge Analytica chairman Julian Wheatland, who is named on the list of people close to President Trump being probed by the House Judiciary Committee, alongside Nix, who resigned as a director of Emerdata on the same day that he was called back for further questioning by a committee in Britain’s House of Commons. Nix remains a shareholder.

The dispute between Carroll and Cambridge Analytica began when the professor read about the alleged use of data in the 2016 presidential campaign. Under British law, companies are required to disclose what information they hold on any individual who asks for it, so Carroll filed a formal request. Cambridge Analytica repeatedly refused to hand the information over until it entered administration last year.

Notionally, Carroll’s involvement in this case is due to his role as a creditor who is potentially owed around £5,000 ($6,600) for the personal data breach.

“Even if I were to get the money it's tiny fraction of the amount of money that I'm risking,” he told The Daily Beast. “It's about searching for the answers and triggering accountability. If it wasn't for me they would just rubberstamp it—and they'd be gone.”

His contention is that there are millions of other people whose data was stolen and misused by Cambridge Analytica.

On Monday, the High Court heard that press reports following Cambridge Analytica’s bankruptcy speculated that Emerdata might take up the baton and continue the controversial company’s work under another name.

Court documents submitted by Carroll’s team claimed that the administrators had also failed in their most basic duties: “Employees have refused to return laptops to the Administrators, and others have been stolen from the Administrators’ custody. Adding to concerns that the Cambridge Analytica business continues to be carried-on under another guise, as at November 2018, former employees were apparently still accessing its cloud-based infrastructure.”

Gledhill told the court that it was vital for Mr. Justice Norris to refuse to grant Crowe’s bid to become liquidators and shut the company down permanently.

“This case has attracted exceptional public interest and in our submission the standard of independence in this case should be correspondingly high. We say that the administrators cannot meet that standard both because of the appearance of bias and because they are in fact biased,” he said.

Gledhill claimed that Emerdata’s favored administrators had gone to extremes in order to avoid complying with the regulator which ordered Cambridge Analytica to respond to a subject access request (SAR) from Carroll. He wanted to know what information had been obtained on him, where it had come from and how it was used. The Information Commissioner's Office ended up taking the company to court, and Cambridge Analytica parent company SCL was convicted of breaking the law in January.

“It speaks volumes about the extent to which the administrators are beholden to Emerdata that, despite their status as officers of the court … they preferred to expose [SCL] Elections to criminal sanction for failure to cooperate with a regulator, rather than yield an inch to Professor Carroll’s SAR.”

Gledhill said it may have been enough to avoid the conviction if the administrators had made their best endeavors to comply. “Had they done that in any subsequent criminal proceedings they would have had a defense … They didn't even try at all.”

He said that would have been easy: “What was there to prevent the administrator from sitting down with Mr. Nix or Mr. Wheatland” and asking what they remembered about where the vast swathes of data on up to 200 million American voters had come from?

Catherine Addy QC, representing the administrators in court, said her clients had cooperated as much as they could with the regulators. She said it was impossible to track down Carroll’s personal information amid 700 terabytes of data that has been seized by the Information Commission. She also insisted that the administrators had no idea that there was an ongoing process to access that material when they were appointed.

She claimed Carroll’s legal team was “using the media and political storm cloud” to try to hold up the normal procedures of the court.

The judge has reserved his judgment on whether Crowe should be dismissed as the administrator. He is expected to rule in the coming days.

 

[dacomeup]

Mara Gay is fine. Actually disappointed that AOC tapdanced around this one with that quote that they pulled from her speaking to her constituents. It's shameful that 190 black students out of 4800 were selected for these specialized schools.

 

[130122]

I've decided Bootygig is the best option for the democratic primary

 

[whywesteppin]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cambr...exander-nix-julian-wheatland?via=twitter_page
Cambridge Analytica Secrets Allegedly Covered Up by Trump Campaign Veterans
The High Court in London heard that former insiders, including Rebekah Mercer, were pulling the strings of “biased” officials responsible for the fate of the company.

British political consultants that worked for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign liked to boast that they could deploy dirty tricks and twist democracies all over the world without the risk of detection.

The High Court in London heard on Monday that Cambridge Analytica was up to its old tricks from beyond the grave—by surreptitiously trying to halt investigations that could expose allegedly nefarious tactics before the company was shut down for good.

The company filed for the British equivalent of chapter 11 bankruptcy last year after secret recordings of its boss Alexander Nix emerged in which he claimed that Trump’s data gurus had carried out illicit election campaigns all over the world. The company was also accused of using up to 87 million clandestinely harvested Facebook profiles to create a state of the art voter database that helped Trump win election in 2016.

A lawyer representing a New York professor, who believes his private data was misused by the notorious campaign operatives, claims Cambridge Analytica’s data secrets are being shielded from justice and exposure by administrators in the pay of a shadow company set up by a band of executives linked to the Trump campaign veterans.

The High Court heard that administrators had deliberately misled a judge during a previous hearing by obfuscating their financial links to Emerdata, a company which was set up by Alexander Nix, Rebekah Mercer, and other senior figures who were previously involved with Cambridge Analytica.

**** that crazy *****.

She's the worst of the worst. I read one article about her and now I vomit whenever I hear her name.

And if I remember correctly, she looks like the lovechild of Steve Bannon and Rocky Dennis.

 

[whywesteppin]

It won't be the right that makes me break character, it will be Bernie Bros. Can't stand them. rexanglorum is not a Bernie bro nor is anyone that posts in here but those idiots will want a second term for Trump if Bernie isn't the nominee.

I agree. I normally hide my true feelings in public but if Bern is the nominee I am wearing my MAGA hat EVERYWHERE.

 

[cragmatic]

Bernie Bros are the worst.

 

[Belgium]

Repeatedly wildly overvaluing his assets, reportedly by up to 70% at times, numerous bankruptcies, organized crime connections in real estate, ... and still getting loan after loan.

 

[Belgium]

"Negligence, defamation per se, insulting words and civil conspiracy"


https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-d...itter-two-anonymous-twitter-accounts?ref=home
Rep. Devin Nunes Files $250M Defamation Lawsuit Against Twitter, Two Anonymous Twitter Accounts
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) sued Twitter, two anonymous Twitter accounts, and political consultant Liz Mair for more than $250 million, alleging that the defendants engaged in “negligence, defamation per se, insulting words, and civil conspiracy.” In the suit, Nunes accuses Twitter of having a “political agenda” by allowing two anonymous accounts—“Devin Nunes’ Mom” (@DevinNunesMom) and “Devin Nunes’ Cow” (@DevinCow)—and Mair to attack, defame, and demean him.

The suit alleges the two Twitter accounts “engaged in a vicious defamation campaign against Nunes that lasted over a year,” and claims Mair “relentlessly smeared and defamed” the lawmaker by “filming stunts” at his D.C. office, accusing him of “multiple crimes,” and “filing fraudulent ethics complaints” against him. The lawsuit also claims Twitter shadow-banned Nunes, which “restrict[ed] his free speech” and “amplif[ied] the abusive and hateful content” the Twitter accounts and Mair were posting. In addition, Nunes requested the court to order Twitter to reveal the identities of the anonymous accounts and to suspend @DevinNunesMom, @DevinCow, and Liz Mair. Mair, who has contributed as an opinion writer at The Daily Beast, wrote on Twitterthat she was declining to comment on the suit.

Spoiler

 

[AEA18]

 

[Based Jesus]

Mara Gay is fine. Actually disappointed that AOC tapdanced around this one with that quote that they pulled from her speaking to her constituents. It's shameful that 190 black students out of 4800 were selected for these specialized schools.

I went to a specialized HS, my mother went to a specialized HS. It's disheartening to see how the number of minorities admitted has plummeted since either of us were students.

 

[whywesteppin]

"Negligence, defamation per se, insulting words and civil conspiracy"


https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-d...itter-two-anonymous-twitter-accounts?ref=home
Rep. Devin Nunes Files $250M Defamation Lawsuit Against Twitter, Two Anonymous Twitter Accounts
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) sued Twitter, two anonymous Twitter accounts, and political consultant Liz Mair for more than $250 million, alleging that the defendants engaged in “negligence, defamation per se, insulting words, and civil conspiracy.” In the suit, Nunes accuses Twitter of having a “political agenda” by allowing two anonymous accounts—“Devin Nunes’ Mom” (@DevinNunesMom) and “Devin Nunes’ Cow” (@DevinCow)—and Mair to attack, defame, and demean him.

The suit alleges the two Twitter accounts “engaged in a vicious defamation campaign against Nunes that lasted over a year,” and claims Mair “relentlessly smeared and defamed” the lawmaker by “filming stunts” at his D.C. office, accusing him of “multiple crimes,” and “filing fraudulent ethics complaints” against him. The lawsuit also claims Twitter shadow-banned Nunes, which “restrict[ed] his free speech” and “amplif[ied] the abusive and hateful content” the Twitter accounts and Mair were posting. In addition, Nunes requested the court to order Twitter to reveal the identities of the anonymous accounts and to suspend @DevinNunesMom, @DevinCow, and Liz Mair. Mair, who has contributed as an opinion writer at The Daily Beast, wrote on Twitterthat she was declining to comment on the suit.

Spoiler

Snowflake.

 

[dacomeup]

I went to a specialized HS, my mother went to a specialized HS. It's disheartening to see how the number of minorities admitted has plummeted since either of us were students.

It’s appalling. Rigged game already, as kids from families with more resources to prepare for the test will have an advantage.

 

[Kinfolk]

 

[whywesteppin]

tweet gone already

edit: fixed

lol @ Beto.

 

[RustyShackleford]

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/ta-nehisi-coates-race-politics-2020-elections.html

In recent days, as Democrats debated the definition of “reparations,”Joe Biden rationalized his opposition to integration, and socialist congresswomen started demanding the rebirth of a nation, inquiring minds wanted to know: What would Ta-Nehisi say?

Throughout the Obama years, Ta-Nehisi Coates provided politics-watchers with a regular source of historically grounded, bracingly well-written punditry and reporting. But since 2016, the writer’s ambitions have led him off of Twitter and out of the news cycle, leaving us to navigate the Trump era’s dark waters without the aid of his insight.

Until now, anyway. Earlier this week, New York caught up with the author of Between the World and Me and “The Case for Reparations” to discuss the latest developments in the Democratic Party’s 2020 primary race, the case for — and against — reparations, and the role of pop culture in fostering progressive change.

 

[-Red-]

If you knew for certain and you could only pick one of two options:

A.) Beto wins in 2020 and 2024 but we get no Court Packing, Dems get majority in Senate but cannot get anything done because they do not address filibuster, there are no policy changes.

B.) Trump wins in 2020 then AOC wins in 2024 and 2028 and we get rid of the filibuster, pack the court, create new States and get urselves M4A and GND.

It’s a rough call but I think we’d go with option B

Of course, we do not know how the 2020 election will play out, let alone elections after that, so we take it one election at a time.

What I can pretty confidently infer is that if Bernie is the nominee, about 25-30 percent of Dem primary voters will vote for Trump or a third party centrist.

This is what Will Menaker was expressing with his tweets. The demands for party unity always flow from the right win of the Democratic Party to the left of the party’s constituency. There’s a good chance that Sanders will be the nominee and we, on the left wing of the Democratic Party, will have ask moderate Dems to support our candidate in the 2020 general election. I suspect that 70-75 percent of non Sanders Dems will vote for Sanders in the 2020 General. However, many centrists calling for party unity now will not vote for Bernie because they’re wealthy and don’t want to pay slightly higher taxes and suddenly the idea of a second Trump term will seem palatable to them and they will vote accordingly.

If those were the two certain options, I agree that B is preferable to A. But, like you said, nothing is guaranteed. While I like Bernie’s politics far more than any other candidate, I’ll happily turn out for whoever wins the Dem primary in the general and will encourage everyone I know to do the same. I did this in 2016 for Hillary. And to be clear when I say encourage everyone I know to vote, I’m not talking about the proverbial “Bernie bro” holdouts; I literally don’t even know any of those people in real life. I’m talking about people who have mostly never voted at all.

It will be very interesting if Bernie wins the nomination to see how centrist Dem voters play things, especially given all of the largely unwarranted crying many of them have done about “Bernie bros.”

 

[-Red-]

You can’t lecture, shame, nor berate me into casting a vote for a candidate I don’t believe in, especially after knowingly misrepresenting my views because you disagree with my position. My ancestors died for my right to vote, not for me to willingly give it away in exchange for nothing.

#ados #tangibles2020 no black agenda, no vote, champ

What exactly constitutes a “black agenda”? What exactly constitute “tangibles” in relation to said agenda?

 

[RustyShackleford]

2020 is a redistricting year. If the Dems want to undo gerrymandering we need to show up. Not only that there will be a ton of other ballot measures and judicial races that will have a meaningful impact on people's lives.

I want a progressive on the top of the ticket but if primary voters chose Biden, I am going to drive out to the middle of the Nevada desert, curse up a storm in private, punch the **** out of a cactus and let that pain drown out my anger.

Then catch me on election day getting ready to vote for Biden like...

 

[RustyShackleford]

Donna Bolivia has been hired by Fox News. RustyShackleford

All Donna cares about right now is securing bags.

The statement she put out was laughable. She is being used as a pawn, yet thinks she is making the world a better place.

Gurl please.