***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[handullz]

I don't even know how you're concocting this sloppily thought out theory based on the information that is out there. And you're essentially calling our intelligence agencies liars, much like Trump himself does. Do better, man.

As a black man, excuse me for not blindly trusting The CIA or its “intelligence”

they have a history of pullin **** ****

 

[dacomeup]

As a black man, excuse me for not blindly trusting The CIA or its “intelligence”

they have a history of pullin **** ****

Yes, COINTELPRO is working hard against Trump. How could I not see that?

 

[wavycrocket]

2020 not 2016. You ain’t even read the damn article

handullz going out sad

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yes, COINTELPRO is working hard against Trump. How could I not see that?

His post reads like something DWalk would write. He doesn't believe the intelligence reports making old white rich men look bad, because in the past they have done things to hurt black people.

Lawddddd

 

[debso]

its odd to me how everyone is cool with fascism and authoritarianism but has a huge problem with a "revolution" via "democratic socialism."

 

[IATT]

 

[gry60]

Calm down, goofy.

Funny how when Bernie is in the show, the Russian influences are low...

but when Hill-dawg is running, da Russians are the most capable techies in the world.. enough to shift a global super powers election.

So da Russians just decided to stop meddling ? They’re not doing anything to keep their “guy” in power?

Why are you doing this to yourself? I know you're smart enough to understand cause and effect. In 2016, the Russians blindsided the US with their psyops operation, and now folks (and the IC) are more aware of Russian attempts in 2020.

Plus, Putin had a personal vendetta against Hillary (back when she was secretary of state, she didn't do him any favors to say the least).

 

[Present]

 

[Christian Pulisic]

 

[Deleted member 42060]

Never knew Sanders tried to primary Obama in 2011.

"The low point between the two men was a 2013 meeting with other Democratic senators. Obama had just put a chained Consumer Price Index in his budget, a proposal that would cut Social Security benefits by tying them to the rate of inflation. Many Senate Democrats were angry about it. But when they arrived for the meeting, it was Sanders who bubbled up, ripping into Obama for giving in to Republicans and not understanding the impact of the cuts."

“I don’t need a lecture,” Obama told him, according to several senators who attended the meeting.

Sanders proceeded to give him one anyway. A number of the senators there were struck by what they told me seemed like a lack of respect.


“Obama fairly forcefully pushed back and said, ‘That’s just not right—that’s not a vision that’s enactable or possible,’” one senator in the room recalled, asking for anonymity to discuss the private meeting. “‘You’re acting like I’m the enemy.’ Obama was trying to say, ‘I hear you that you want this revolution, but explain to me, how’s this going to happen? Look at the current makeup of the Senate and the House. How am I supposed to lead?’” Obama said, in this senator’s memory. The conversation quickly got testy. “It seemed the match of someone who prided himself on his cool intellect and removed analysis versus someone who was convinced with absolute ferocity with the rightness of his worldview and is not given to accepting anything from those who don’t agree with it.”

The Hidden History of Sanders’s Plot to Primary Obama

Democrats’ previous president and maybe their next one have a particularly fraught relationship.

www.theatlantic.com

interesting.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yeah, Bernie acted like a straight *** sometimes during the Obama years. It is one thing to be upset Obama moved right on something, but the insinuation that Obama wanted to go right is BS.

But this came up last time

Bernie was sneak dissing on Obama up until he declared in 2015, then Obama's poll numbers started to rise, and as popularity grew, Hillary started jabbing him and he stopped the slick talk.

I believe Bernie's talking point for this now is that his point was not a specific attack against Obama, but more about a general point regarding primaries.

 

[atlsfinest]

Sheesh

 

[junglejim]

Sheesh

Bloomberg about to spend half his fortune trying to get elected president then get the other half taken by the person who actually gets elected president. What a shame

 

[Christian Pulisic]

Socialism

Although I don't believe in socialism, there are certain things that need extreme regulations. A person should not be making billions annually while his employees are struggling to make ends meet. Especially when these companies get absurd tax breaks. If these companies threaten to leave...

niketalk.com

Welp this thread should be great.

 

[IATT]

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Yeah, Bernie acted like a straight *** sometimes during the Obama years. It is one thing to be upset Obama moved right on something, but the insinuation that Obama wanted to go right is BS.

But this came up last time

Bernie was sneak dissing on Obama up until he declared in 2015, then Obama's poll numbers started to rise, and as popularity grew, Hillary started jabbing him and he stopped the slick talk.

I believe Bernie's talking point for this now is that his point was not a specific attack against Obama, but more about a general point regarding primaries.

or voters might view this as Bernie is an electable moderate willing to go against the Democratic establishment.

 

[IATT]

 

[RustyShackleford]

or you voters might view this is Bernie is an electable moderate willing to go against the Democratic establishment.

Famb what

He already that "chill, chill, I didn't mean it like that" tip. The older black church ladies are about to vote, is about that time for all the candidates to be...


Bernie's *** does not want folk to think he was seriously plotting on Obeezy.

 

[Belgium]

 

[RustyShackleford]

This conversation between Paul Krugman and Richard Wolff sounds just like the debates I have had in here.


I generally agree with both dudes, but Wolff's counterpoint to criticize the ACA is asinine.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Surprise, surprise, Professional Progressive Purity tester Cenk Uygur is a mayor ****ing hypocrite.

He is all for worker solidarity, as long as it doesn't hurt his bottom line

aepps20 Cenk wants Coal Gang to hit the mines without a union contract, you down?

 

[mplsdunk]

So he’s a commie. Put the company before yourself??? F all that.

 

[IATT]

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Famb what

He already that "chill, chill, I didn't mean it like that" tip. The older black church ladies are about to vote, is about that time for all the candidates to be...


Bernie's *** does not want folk to think he was seriously plotting on Obeezy.

I'm just saying try and look at it through the lense of someone who doesn't care about politics,

I suspect.that stories like this by the time they reach a low information voter they get simplified into...Obama and Bernie had some static occasionally.

And to like the random rust belt white dude having some static with Obama is probably a point I'm Bernie's favour.

 

[Armada]

This conversation between Paul Krugman and Richard Wolff sounds just like the debates I have had in here.


I generally agree with both dudes, but Wolff counterpoint to criticize the ACA is asinine.

i shoudlnt have read the comments on that video. Good lord people are irrational.

great discussion though. Imma add both of their books to my list