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The belief is still there, and it is used in various forms by the right to justify the current state of minorities in this country.

This 100%. The “white” in white supremacy is more than just the skin color. “Whiteness” is an ideology and its about proximity to power. And I don’t mean power in the sense of holding a position in government or proximity to elected officials although that is also part of it. Power is the ability to live unemcumbered by the history of this country. The power to make decisions and live life knowing that society and government over all are working to make your life better or at the very least not make it worse.
 
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White dude named robert trying to win the hispanic vote by calling himself beto and a hispanic dude with the last name cruz trying his hardest to distance himself from his hispanic side. You can't make this ish up
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He just didn't start calling himself Beto to get the Hispanic vote. His family called him that since he was a baby, and gone by it his whole life.

Him, as a kid. It should be pretty easy to pick him out...
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In a statement late Sunday, Kemp’s spokesman issued the following statement:

“In an act of desperation, the Democrats tried to expose vulnerabilities in Georgia’s voter registration system. This was a 4th quarter Hail Mary pass that was intercepted in the end zone. Thanks to the systems and protocols established by Secretary of State Brian Kemp, no personal information was breached. These power-hungry radicals should be held accountable for their criminal behavior.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...lection-hes-competing/?utm_term=.cc2824dcc086
Brian Kemp’s office orders ‘hacking’ probe of Georgia Democrats on eve of election he’s competing in
Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s dual roles as both referee and Republican competitor in the state’s gubernatorial election collided Sunday, when the government office he controls announced a “hacking” investigation into the Georgia Democratic Party and his campaign for governor subsequently condemned the “criminal behavior” he allegedly discovered.

But neither Kemp’s campaign nor his secretary of state’s office provided evidence that Democrats had tried to hack into Georgia’s voter registration system.

And within hours of the investigation’s announcement, two voting rights attorneys disputed its premise — suggesting that Kemp launched the probe as a distraction, hours after they told authorities about potential security flaws in the electronic voter systems he is responsible for maintaining.
“We alerted the authorities. We expected Mr. Kemp to take action. We were surprised to see the apparent response to that was accusing [the Democrats] of hacking,” said David D. Cross, a Washington attorney who is helping sue Georgia to make it use paper ballots, said at a news conference Sunday afternoon.

By late Sunday, Kemp’s opponent, Stacey Abrams, was trying to reframe the investigation as yet another example of how — she says — the Republican has abused his government power as he seeks a higher office.

“Within the past hour it was revealed that Brian Kemp’s office, along with the FBI, was notified by a third party yesterday morning regarding a major security vulnerability of Georgia’s elections database,” Abrams’s campaign wrote in a statement. “Kemp’s false accusations against the Democratic Party of Georgia were nothing more than a pathetic attempt to cover up for his failures.”

The office of the secretary of state, which Democrats have accused throughout Kemp’s campaign of manipulating the electoral system for his benefit, announced the investigation Sunday morning with an all-caps headline that appeared directly below a voter’s guide on a government website:

“AFTER FAILED HACKING ATTEMPT, SOS LAUNCHES INVESTIGATION INTO GEORGIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY.”

The attached statement contained no evidence and almost no details on the Democratic Party of Georgia’s “possible cyber crimes,” but it said Kemp’s office had launched the investigation Saturday evening and alerted the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.

By early Sunday afternoon, however, Cross and at least one other voting rights attorney had called foul on Kemp.

Cross forwarded an email between himself and an FBI agent from Saturday, sent before Kemp’s office launched its probe. In it, the Washington lawyer tells the agent that a secretary of state website set up for voters to check their registration status and find polling locations may be leaking confidential voter information.

“Thanks!” the agent replies. “We’ll pass the information along to the Secretary of State’s Office for them to evaluate.”

Bruce Brown, a lawyer with the Coalition for Good Governance, told the Who What Why blog that he had alerted Kemp’s attorneys to similar issues on Saturday.

The Democratic Party of Georgia later released an email exchange between two of its staff members Saturday, forwarding someone else’s report about the security issue. The party suggested that Kemp had obtained this exchange, mistakenly assumed that the staffers had tried to hack the voter registration system and launched its investigation on a faulty premise.

The “Secretary of State’s office is apparently unaware that the letters ‘Fwd:’ means ‘forward’,” a spokeswoman for the party wrote.

Several hours after announcing its hacking investigation, after contradictory reports emerged, Kemp’s office issued an updated statement that sounded somewhat less dire:

“We opened an investigation into the Democratic Party of Georgia after receiving information from our legal team about failed efforts to breach the online voter registration system and My Voter Page,” reads the new statement. “We are working with our private sector vendors and investigators to review data logs. We have contacted our federal partners and formally requested the Federal Bureau of Investigation to investigate these possible cyber crimes. The Secretary of State’s office will release more information as it becomes available.”

This isn’t the first time Kemp’s office has claimed its voting systems were hacked based on thin evidence. After the presidential election in 2016, the Hill reported, he accused President Barack Obama’s Department of Homeland Security of launching at least 10 failed cyberattacks on Georgia.

An investigation during President Trump’s administration concluded that the supposed attacks were actually “normal and automatic computer message exchanges generated by the Microsoft applications involved."

This weekend’s investigation into Kemp’s rival party was immediately condemned as a political ploy by Democrats and some commentators, who believe he should not oversee an election in which he is competing.

“Brian Kemp’s scurrilous claims are 100 percent false, and this so-called investigation was unknown to the Democratic Party of Georgia until a campaign operative in Kemp’s official office released a statement this morning,” Rebecca DeHart, executive director of the state Democratic Party, wrote in a statement to reporters. “This is yet another example of abuse of power by an unethical Secretary of State.”

Abrams, who is polling almost neck-and-neck with Kemp, told CNN on Sunday that she had been unaware of her opponent’s investigation into her party.

“He is desperate to turn the conversation away from his failures, from his refusal to honor his commitments, and from the fact that he’s part of a nationwide system of voter suppression,” she said.

In a statement late Sunday, Kemp’s spokesman issued the following statement:

“In an act of desperation, the Democrats tried to expose vulnerabilities in Georgia’s voter registration system. This was a 4th quarter Hail Mary pass that was intercepted in the end zone. Thanks to the systems and protocols established by Secretary of State Brian Kemp, no personal information was breached. These power-hungry radicals should be held accountable for their criminal behavior.”

Voting rights has become a major issue in the campaign, which has drawn national attention because Abrams, 44, if elected, would become the nation’s first black female governor.

Abrams, who four years ago started a nonprofit group whose goal was to sign up hundreds of thousands of unregistered people of color, has clashed repeatedly with Kemp, whom she calls “the architect of voter suppression.” Kemp investigated the group, with which Abrams is no longer affiliated, on suspicion of fraud but found no wrongdoing.

Kemp, 55, who has argued that the policies are aimed at preventing voter fraud, also has been criticized for having purged more than a million voters from the rolls during the past year. He has rejected calls, including one from former president Jimmy Carter, that he should step down as the state’s top elections official while he is running for governor.

Although lawmakers and elections officials in Republican-controlled states have cited concerns about cheating to enact strict voter registration and identification laws, there is no evidence of widespread fraud in the United States.

Kemp’s office came under intense scrutiny last month when the Associated Press reported that more than 53,000 voter registration applications — 70 percent of them from African Americans — had been held up because the identification information was not an “exact match” to other state records on account of discrepancies such as a dropped hyphen in a person’s name.

On Friday, a federal judge ordered the state to immediately stop using the rule, saying it would probably lead to violations of the voting rights of a large number of people. Less than two weeks ago, in a separate case, a federal judge ordered elections officials to stop automatically rejecting absentee ballots after advocates filed suit against Gwinnett County, which threw out hundreds of ballots because of discrepancies in signatures or missing addresses.

President Trump is scheduled to host a campaign rally for Kemp in Macon on Sunday.
 
Son literally got a "Beto" sweater, this was god's plan :rofl:
I know I be playing up the "Starboy" stuff. But from talking to politically ignorant 18-19 years olds over the past couple months for outreach with the Democratic Party, after I explain to them what a midterm is and that Obama can't run anymore, and Bernie is not running again for another couple years, 75% of the time they ask me "Is Beto running in my state"

Beto could really be a new age Bobby Kennedy outchea is he plays it right.
 
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Kemp is a total piece of ****. The fact CNN has a current headline on this story pisses me off. CNN still doesn’t understand how Trumpism works.
 
This wasn't mentioned in the above article about Kemp but Georgia's voter registry and voter history data was listed for sale last month. It appears that the data may have been sold in mid October, when the seller received 2 suspicious payments in cryptocurrency. The seller claimed the following week that he was no longer offering Georgia's data for sale because it had already been sold. Both came from different sources and don't appear to be linked. The first payment contained several tens of thousands of dollars. Based on another comment made by the seller, that payment appears to be linked what the seller referred to as a "masterfile" of all states, containing more than 200 million voter records.
Later that day, the seller received a second payment from a different source totaling a little over $1000.
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On Tuesday, we’ll be running a massive (not to mention extraordinarily high stakes) political science experiment.

Beto O’Rourke, Andrew Gillum and Stacey Abrams, with a combination of a measured but clear leftward shift on economic/healthcare issues and a very strong anti-racism message in an effort to expand the electorate, will try to turn Republican leaning States into Democratic meaning States.

If they succeed, they will be able to make a case in 2020 to campaign on a platform that may not be as left as Bernie Sanders but is certainly to left of Varack Obama in 2008. It is fascinating to see because those three have similarities to 2008 Obama but because of different dynamics in their electorates, are not shying away from either black and brown empowerment nor redistribution of wealth.
 
This wasn't mentioned in the above article about Kemp but Georgia's voter registry and voter history data was listed for sale last month. It appears that the data may have been sold in mid October, when the seller received 2 suspicious payments in cryptocurrency. The seller claimed the following week that he was no longer offering Georgia's data for sale because it had already been sold. Both came from different sources and don't appear to be linked. The first payment contained a little over $1000.
Later that day, the seller received a second payment from a different source totaling several tens of thousands of dollars. Based on another comment made by the seller, that payment appears to be linked what the seller referred to as a "masterfile" of all states, containing more than 200 million voter records.

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Don't mess with NT detectives.

I have no idea what the market is, but $61k seems kind of low, unless he was selling to multiple sellers or didn't have the right connections to sell directly to a foreign government.
 
Don't mess with NT detectives.

I have no idea what the market is, but $61k seems kind of low, unless he was selling to multiple sellers or didn't have the right connections to sell directly to a foreign government.
A lot of voter data is considered public data, which can be bought directly from the state in a number of states. That process comes with strict authorization requirements though, including how the individual/group intends to use the data and for what purpose. Some have public databases. I think Maryland does.

The price for that masterfile seems fair to me, assuming it is just a collection of public data. To be clear, the data being considered public doesn't mean no breach occured. You can't just go around and download it as you please.
 
So apparently david frum debated bannon in canada. And lost. Im going to catch it tomorrow during work.

Frum made it seem like lux losing to math hoffa.
 
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