***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[noskey]

I don't know about you guys but I refuse to engage a guy that supports Roy Moore.

Let alone all the disingenuous arguments he makes to stir the pot and troll. "Oh he should do better," "oh but whataboutism," "let me move the goalposts and change the game," "the sea lion exhibit closes at 4 I'm leaving the deep fryer early today"

FOH.

 

[IATT]

This is what she had to apologize for? Some lame wordplay?

dwalk31 and co are fine with them taking away literal babies from their parents

but can’t handle someone differentiating between a name (Barron) and a title (baron)

 

[whywesteppin]

Let alone all the disingenuous arguments he makes to stir the pot and troll. "Oh he should do better," "oh but whataboutism," "let me move the goalposts and change the game," "the sea lion exhibit closes at 4 I'm leaving the deep fryer early today"

FOH.

Agreed.

This thread has absolutely had it with RustyShackleford

 

[dwalk31]

dwalk31
Why is Trump undermining the finding that Russian GRU operatives hacked the DNC? What is there to gain from exculpating Russia and pinning the blame on Ukraine instead?

I imagine it is because of the prior allegations that he colluded with Russia for to in rig the election.

While you are able to distinguish the two, I think a lot of people intentionally muddy the waters to make it seem as if there is evidence Trump worked with Russia to rig the election in his favor.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Agreed.

This thread has absolutely had it with RustyShackleford

Allegedly

 

[gry60]

Nice.

Trump admin. wants to raise costs to become a U.S. citizen by 83 percent

“This outrageous rule aims to price out low-income and working-class immigrants from U.S. citizenship," says an immigration rights advocate.

www.nbcnews.com

So dwalk31 , how does raising the citizenship application fee from $760 to $1,170 (this is just to fill out paperwork) encourage legal immigration? How is that not an attack on the legal immigration process, and the ability of people who live here legally (permanent residents) to become full participants in American life?

How does it encourage integration?

 

[gry60]

Did you hear the comment?

"You can name your son Barron, but that won't confer him the title of Baron"? That comment?

 

[dwalk31]

Nice.

Trump admin. wants to raise costs to become a U.S. citizen by 83 percent

“This outrageous rule aims to price out low-income and working-class immigrants from U.S. citizenship," says an immigration rights advocate.

www.nbcnews.com

So dwalk31 , how does raising the citizenship application fee from $760 to $1,170 (this is just to fill out paperwork) encourage legal immigration? How is that not an attack on the legal immigration process, and the ability of people who live here legally (permanent residents) to become full participants in American life?

How does it encourage integration?

I am not an economist, but RustyShackleford is. I remember when the 11s were way less than $220.

 

[dwalk31]

"You can name your son Barron, but that won't confer him the title of Baron"? That comment?

Yes, that’s the one she apologized for.

 

[IATT]

Yes, that’s the one she apologized for.

since you are concerned about minors getting apologies, hope trump and his adult child got some coming for this courageous young lady

 

[RustyShackleford]

I am not an economist, but RustyShackleford is. I remember when the 11s were way less than $220.

On so many ****ing levels you sound like a buffoon.

Like seriously man, just shut up

 

[Belgium]

I imagine it is because of the prior allegations that he colluded with Russia for to in rig the election.

While you are able to distinguish the two, I think a lot of people intentionally muddy the waters to make it seem as if there is evidence Trump worked with Russia to rig the election in his favor.

Falsely exculpating Russia’s from one of their key interference activities doesn’t exactly help his case. According to sworn testimony by Trump’s former top Russia adviser Fiona Hill and recent reporting, what Trump is doing is repeating and promoting a Russian intel disinformation campaign.


Trump seems to actually believe it too, given that he asked Zelensky to investigate Crowdstrike and later went on some delusional rant about the company on Fox.

 

[Belgium]

Interesting case going on here

 

[mister friendly]

Whether removal happens or not impeaching Trump is the obvious political play.

The constitutional scholars framed it, the impeachment tool is basically used to check the President from acting improper.

Think about it the Republicans impeached Clinton for lying about having sex, nothing to do with governing but they couldn’t let the American people “decide” during the 2000 election.
Their political play worked and they got a Republican President even though Clinton was a very successful President.

They are just trying to pick off a few voters, Trump fighting this is not a great look because time spend on impeachment is time Trump can’t spend touting the accomplishments he has.

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

Hey look dwalk31 ya boy caught lying again

 

[...So]

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

LOL
What a moron

 

[Nike Jordan]

Joe Biden being effective, for once.

 

[Armada]

“If you love America mamas don’t let your babies grow up to go to Harvard or Stanford law school”

...

this is how far these dudes are willing to fall to defend trump. What a sad state this country is in

 

[dwalk31]

Whether removal happens or not impeaching Trump is the obvious political play.

The constitutional scholars framed it, the impeachment tool is basically used to check the President from acting improper.

Think about it the Republicans impeached Clinton for lying about having sex, nothing to do with governing but they couldn’t let the American people “decide” during the 2000 election.
Their political play worked and they got a Republican President even though Clinton was a very successful President.

They are just trying to pick off a few voters, Trump fighting this is not a great look because time spend on impeachment is time Trump can’t spend touting the accomplishments he has.

I actually agree with your analysis. But unless it turns bipartisan, it will backfire on them. Clinton was in his second term, and the Republicans lost a lot of seats after that. I highly doubt they actually impeach. They are doing this show, like you said, to influence the election. But an actual impeachment would do more harm than good for them.

 

[heelsandeers]

But unless it turns bipartisan, it will backfire on them. Clinton was in his second term, and the Republicans lost a lot of seats after that. I highly doubt they actually impeach. They are doing this show, like you said, to influence the election. But an actual impeachment would do more harm than good for them.

for that theory to make sense.... Trump would need to be popular like Clinton was (he's not) and the impeachment would need to be seen as a strictly partisan effort (it isn't)

I don't see how the two are anything alike. If anything.... it puts purple state Republicans at risk when they go on record to acquit an obviously corrupt/incompetent president

 

[dacomeup]

Biden is going to pick Kamala as VP and lock up this nomination. I think people will be much more amenable to her as VP than President right now.

 

[dwalk31]

for that theory to make sense.... Trump would need to be popular like Clinton was (he's not) and the impeachment would need to be seen as a strictly partisan effort (it isn't)

I don't see how the two are anything alike. If anything.... it puts purple state Republicans at risk when they go on record to acquit an obviously corrupt/incompetent president

On the first point we can agree to disagree because it’s subjective. On your second point, literally no republicans in the house are supporting the impeachment effort. All the votes have fallen along party lines. That’s the definition of partisan.

We will see how it turns out. If they impeach, I think he’ll get reelected and the proceedings will be used to flip the house.

 

[dwalk31]

Biden is going to pick Kamala as VP and lock up this nomination. I think people will be much more amenable to her as VP than President right now.

Bernie/Michelle Obama would win. Biden won’t. That’s why Dems are still entering late. Bloomberg has a better chance.