Official Production Numbers - Top 23 AJ XX3 White/Titanium-University Blue

^ Great advice.

I say if you don't TRULY LOVE these shoes, DON'T buy them just to flip for a little profit.

Let those who truly love them buy them.

I don't like them, so I will be passing, EVEN if they are available near me.

 

^^ Thats exactly wat I was thinking, just take a L and get over it cuz these aren't even the best looking XX3, both of the GR pairs that we have seen sofar are much better than these anyway

Edit: Does anyone know if the White/Red/Black pair will be more limited than the Black/Red pair? I ask because on alot of websitestheir release dates have the White/Red/Black pair as a limited release. Will they be like a Limited GR?

I would appreciate the help

 

I want these so bad, but I guess I'll take the L. JB doesn't really care about consumers size 14 and up. 500 pairs in the US. If they go from size7.5-18 and they distribute the number of pairs per size (which they won't) it would be less than 50 pairs a size. Divide that by 23 stores. That's nearimpossible to get a pair.

 

i think they are hot, the only 23 i dont like is the black and gold version. But like 230 is so much for the espically if you dont have a job. its so annoyingbecause they can make you pay whatever they want.

 

For $80 more you can get two pairs of shoes that are actually cool... a countdown pack

 

Damn this thread got heated real quick. Before I go into what I am about to post, let it be known that what I am about to type may not be the case in thissituation, but, this comes from years of experience. Years of experience that I KNOW both Steez and JM have. So here we go...

Many times, "Official Marketing" means NOTHING in real application. Marketing is completely different from retail. As both Steez and JM know,Production/Sales/Distribution/Marketing/R&D/Design/etc. operate almost virtually autonomously. Now of course there is plenty inter-departmentalcommunication to attempt to ensure that all of the aforementioned pieces of the chain operate in cohesion, but often times "Marketing" and"Reality" do not exactly mirror each other. This is no fault of marketing nor distro/retail/etc. We are talking about extremely large companies here,imagine how difficult it can be to make sure that each piece of the chain knows and operates EXACTLY according to "plan". Marketing is often one ofthe last pieces of the chain and the dept. is often given information long after many of the initial processes (R&D/Design/Production/Sales) are alreadydone. Sales' job is to SELL sneakers to retail, Marketing's job is to "SELL" that product to the consumer. In many instances (not justsneakers), a salesperson would have no clue how the product they are selling is supposed to be/going to be marketed to the consumer, it is not their job toknow. The same thing goes for marketing, many times they have no clue as to how retail is operating, i.e., not knowing how much a product will sell for/whereit will be sold/etc., it is not their job to know that. Not everyone who works at a sneaker brand is a sneakerhead and they don't know, or have to, knowthe ins and outs of their product from A to/through B like people on this board or any devout "sneakerhead".

Now this is true with many things, not just sneakers (and I am not pointing a finger at sneaker brands here either). I am sure many of you on this board canthink of a time where any product or service was marketed in a certain way that did not actually prove to be real. Whether the product did not perform asmarketed, did not appear where it was marketed to appear, etc. Again this is not the direct fault of any piece of the chain, in many companies there is a largedisconnect between departments. Again, I am not saying that this is true of Jordan Brand in any way, but I am saying this so that people can THINK about theentire situation.

Now onto the case of the guy whose Uncle's shop is getting 10 pairs. Again this might not be the case in this instance, but I have had several experienceslike this.

Think for a second, that this "Uncle's Shop" is actually NOT ONE OF THE TOP 23 ACCOUNTS AT ALL. He might be a reputable and longstanding JBclient that is due a "favor".

Here is a situation that I have experienced in the past.

"Bubba's Banging Sneakers" (doesn't exist, at least I don't think), a reputable and longstanding JB client on the Southside of Chicago,is "promised" the Laser XV. Release date comes and Bubba is Laser XV-less.

Bubba calls his sales rep and says, "What happened to my kix?"

JB sales rep says, "I am sorry, I have no clue what happened, you were supposed to get them."

Bubba says, "you really messed me up on this one."

JB sales rep says, "Let me make it up to you, I will get you 10 PAIRS OF THE LIMITED AIR JORDAN XX3 dropping in January."

Bubba says, "hot diggity dog I am going to bash dudes over the head on this one! Good looking!"

Again, this may not be the case in this instance, but, things like this happen, a lot, I have experienced it myself (I do not own a store but a know a"couple" people that do).

All in all, a lot of things go on outside of Marketing's control and outside of Sales/Distribution's control. To assume that Marketing, or any otherdepartment, is the 100% final end all be all word in anything, is flawed.

Again, I AM SURE that the Top 23 Jordan Brand accounts were allowed to order/promised 23 pairs of the "Titanium Blues" and I am sure that JordanBrand Marketing will market the sneaker that way, BUT, there are a BILLION things that can upset this situation. I have held several Marketing positions, and Ihave been on the bad side of a Marketing Plan gone wrong due to circumstances out of my/my team's control.

Take all of this for what it is worth.

Again, no disrespect intended to Steez or JM. This is my two cents.

Thank you for reading this. I have finally made good on the thousands of dollars spent to obtain my Marketing degree (Word to Kanye).

MaZe

 

does anyone know what locations in philadelphia will be getting these. These are the most sophisticated and understated of the XXIII's. Would love to get apair. Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

get ur tents ready.

 

if only everyone thought like this, no one would ever have problems obtaining some sneakers. But the hunger fir that extra bit of money is just to much.

 

top 23 jb retailers probably arent in the worst places in the world...im guessin people should b pretty safe... first carolina jordan ive liked in awhile...illcop later this year when i get rich...

 

Great post. I hope people actually take the time to read it as I did. It clears up alot and gives credibility to both parties in the"arguement" that is currently taking place. Thanks

 

this is very disappointing...i'm still goin to try and get a pair.

 

I seem to remember "someone" already dropped the hint on where these will be...

 

I'm already camping out! Getiin mine justa few more weeks in this tent!!!!!!! Get them just in time for a Basketball tourny on Feb. 6th....YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Man I'm going to hoop on Cats

 

I totally hear what you're saying BUT judging how hard JB kept these shoes under wraps and secretive... Id really be surprised if they said that 23stores are getting 23 pairs and that didn't happen. With that small of a distribution, I'm pretty sure they could make sure that it happened like that.

Just as was stated above just because this guys uncle is "supposed" to get 10 pairs that doesn't mean he WILL get them... The ONLY way he MIGHTget 10 pairs is if perhaps the owner of the store has more then one store and is splitting 23 pairs between 2 stores, I guess that could be possible...

 

ugly overpriced artificially-limited shoes. thanks jb

 

Socal/LA NTr's PM me.

 

This is ridiculous. Sad.

 

So, I guess these won't find their way to the WV area huh?

 

only people who can cop these:

kids (who don't work like most of us) who can camp 7 days in advance for them, or

cats with a connect


otherwise youre spending $500+ wtf