And what if the violence spirals out of control again like it has been the past month? You don't think withdrawals will be delayed? Toursextended? I am waiting for that June 30 date where US troops supposedly will pull out of major cities in Iraq besides Baghdad and Mosul. Lets see if Gateswill want that extended.
I'd stay strapped walking around Iraq, especially if a fellow troop shoots.
I've realized argue with you gets nowhere because you are dellusional. So let this be the last time I need to mention you.. The last thread I agued with you, you complained Obama was not being bipartisan b/c he rushed the Stimulus through Congress and in the same breath complained the economy is not getting better when your were WRONG! So you wanted him to take his time with a stimulus to fix the economy at the same time as rushing to fix the economy.
And the military budget is always large, we are supposed to have combat troop half of 2010, and beef up war in Afghanistan because have you not heard Al-Qaeda is 70 miles away from nukes in Pakistan.
You want Obama to take his time and not rush but want the effects now..
And all that Iraqi war we have been using YAY!.... We haven't taken a drop... I'm very liberal as most people would know, but Bush nor Obama has never taken that oil, if you did don't you think gas prices would have never gotten to $4.. The motives of the war was to overthrow Saddam, and yes I could agree to an extent to take some oil but we didn't
Patience my friend patience because if you rush yourself into or out of war, or into/out of strategies you not only fail you make things worse.
"I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. " -Barack Obama......
Any smart person will tell you, you can't withdrawal from a war in a day or a month or 6 months.. If you try, you will have many more casualties... If that's what you want go ahead hoss, but everyone will disagree because it is dangerous and stupid.
and here comes... the OBAMA POSTER BOY.
First of all... you're comparing COMBAT missions to the Stimulus?No need to comment on that one.
PATIENCE?
Afghanistan war 2001 -
Iraq War 2003 -
How much more do we need to be patient? America has been in this Occupation war for the greater part of this decade and you're talking about PATIENCE?
Oh no AQ is 70 miles from Nukes? You mean WMDS? DEJA VU?
And you think all of a sudden 30,000 additional troops in Afghanistan will make a difference? You don't think the Bush administration explored sending inmore troops and armor into Afghanistan in the ohhh 7 years they have been there? But now Obama is in charge and viola in all due patience the US will win inAfghanistan whatever WIN means these days. You are really delusional. Burninig that OG eh?
You're sounding more and more like those WAR MONGER Republicans. The mindset now as it was in 2002, war is cool as long as you have a Cmdr in Chief in the51% approval rate.
Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD
His name is Muhammad Ali.
Ok let's say we pull out of Iraq (which is a war I never supported.. But I do support taking your time to get out and not rushing it. BY THE WAY you do know Obama is constricted to December 2011 because of a timetable Bush signed right)
Pakistan does have nuclear weapons. Everyone knows it. It isn't some Iraq situation where we "know" and convince every1 they have it..
Pakistan has been apeasing Al-Qaeda for 6-7 years now and they are getting closer and closer to it. Pakistan cannot defeat Al-Qaeda, so how about we pull out and let it happen? You are @!#%@#+ dumb. War monger, so U.S. should never get involved in anything when it threatens us.. Iraq wasn't a threat.. But this Pakistan situation is. When the Pakistani gov't admits to having WMD's, part of which was with our help, we might want to stop our biggest enemy from getting it...
You are an unrealistic person SUNdoobie. The world is smoke and mirrors, and not black and white.. So when you want to get out of a war you don't snap your fingers like I dream of genie and you're gone...
Call me a war monger if you want but what you ask of WAR, this is not tea and crumpets something that doesn't affect everyone it is WAR... Have to make sure you don't F it up and have to go back in 5 years full force. Which would happen if we pulled out of Iraq today and be gone within a month.
Of course Pakistan has nuclear weapons, roughly around 200. Pakistan cannot defeat AQ without our help? Are you kidding me? You're makingit sound like a bunch of rag tag militants wearing sandals and carrying home made bombs are going to somehow take over a country with over 600,000 militarypersonnel, the 7th largest military in the world. So what you're saying is Pakistan is in danger of a Taliban take over and somehow the Taliban will beable to just take over the Pakistan Nuclear Command Authority, torture their commanders into giving them the launch codes and the Taliban will all of a suddenbecome a super power?
Fear Mongering?
Again like I said.. .the REPUBLICANS back during the Bush administration had ample excuses, and reasons to continue FUNDING and SUPPORTING these wars.. and nowisn't it just laughable to see people like Essential1 who says he is a liberal and didn't support the Iraq war NOW providing all types of reasoning to justify thisoccupation and war. Hypocrites.. that's all ya all are. Instead of being a true liberal, you switch your stance and beliefs just because Obama isPresident now and that is beyond PATHETIC.
Lastly... you quoted Obama's anti war speech back in 2002...
