Penny Hardaway Is THE MOST Overrated Athlete In The History Of NT vol.childhoods got ruined

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He only had 3 "great" years.

He was never a top 3 player

Outside of scoring and passing, he wasn't an all-around player(subpar defender and rebounder)
He wasn't the best player on those Orlando teams, Shaq was.
So let's stop acting like he's God.
 
I understand ya was born int the 80's and loved his shoes, but let's face reality, he wasn't that great.

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please close this thread, cause you obviously dont know  what you are talking about.  he might not have been a top 3 player, but being named to all nba 1st team twice, means he was top 5 and the best point guard in the league..

you're the one that made a thread, so why create another penny thread if you dont think he's that good? but then again, who cares what you think?
 
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Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

please close this thread, cause you obviously dont know  what you are talking about.  he might not have been a top 3 player, but being named to all nba 1st team twice, means he was top 5 and the best point guard in the league..

you're the one that made a thread, so why create another penny thread if you dont think he's that good? but then again, who cares what you think?
Gary Payton>Penny
I understand Penny could score, but Payton had more assists and better defense, thus better PG.
 
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Originally Posted by CosmicCanon

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

please close this thread, cause you obviously dont know  what you are talking about.  he might not have been a top 3 player, but being named to all nba 1st team twice, means he was top 5 and the best point guard in the league..

you're the one that made a thread, so why create another penny thread if you dont think he's that good? but then again, who cares what you think?
Gary Payton>Penny
I understand Penny could score, but Payton had more assists and better defense, thus better PG.
and that is why penny was a 2 time all nba 1st team? by the time gp was all nba 1st team, penny was injured. gp's defense is soo overrated.. just cause he played good D against jordan in the 96 finals, people think he's the better pg? please...

  
 
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Originally Posted by What up

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

being named to all nba 1st team twice, means he was top 5 
No it doesn't.
Exactly, Kobe was on 1st team NBA and defense. Does that mean Kobe is STILL an elite defender and THE BEST in the league?
No

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Originally Posted by CosmicCanon

Originally Posted by What up

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

being named to all nba 1st team twice, means he was top 5 
No it doesn't.
Exactly, Kobe was on 1st team NBA and defense. Does that mean Kobe is STILL an elite defender and THE BEST in the league?
No

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if you make the all nba 1st team, means that you are the best player at that position. like it or not, but that is what all nba 1st team is, im not the one that votes, it's the press and that is how they determine the best players
  
 
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Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by CosmicCanon

Originally Posted by What up


No it doesn't.
Exactly, Kobe was on 1st team NBA and defense. Does that mean Kobe is STILL an elite defender and THE BEST in the league?
No

Top 5 dumbest thing said on NT
if you make the all nba 1st team, means that you are the best player at that position. like it or not, but that is what all nba 1st team is, im not the one that votes, it's the press and that is how they determine the best players
  

All NBA teams, are for players who had the best YEAR, not the best players in the game.

Derrick Rose is All NBA PG, is he the best pg in the game?

No, that belongs to Paul or Williams.
 
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Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by CosmicCanon

Originally Posted by What up


No it doesn't.
Exactly, Kobe was on 1st team NBA and defense. Does that mean Kobe is STILL an elite defender and THE BEST in the league?
No

Top 5 dumbest thing said on NT
if you make the all nba 1st team, means that you are the best player at that position. like it or not, but that is what all nba 1st team is, im not the one that votes, it's the press and that is how they determine the best players
  
Yes but that doesn't mean you are top 5 in the league. There could be 20 shooting guards better than the guy who makes the All NBA team at Center.
 
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i agree op! whoever says otherwise is blinded by the moment or the nike penny campaign.

lil penny>the actual penny

but let penny live. hes happy now. married to steve urkel and reaping the benefits of the young kids buying up his atrocious hybrid shoes...
 
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its true. its nostalgia. i dont think anyone can deny he was talented, but some people act like he was as good as mj, magic, kobe, or even tmac.
 
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and lets not forget the talent he was around. shaq along with dennis scott and nick anderson.


once shaq left it was a wrap for dude.

if it wasnt for shaq and nike people would have forgotten about dude.
 
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Originally Posted by NobleKane

and lets not forget the talent he was around. shaq along with dennis scott and nick anderson.


once shaq left it was a wrap for dude.

if it wasnt for shaq and nike people would have forgotten about dude.
uhm no.. if it wasnt for his knees being all messed up, he'd have a hall of fame career. besides as good as shaq was, without penny he'd never would've made the finals. just like shaq's entire career has been. without another superstar guard, shaq would have never made it. and where kobe got a quality big several in gasol years after shaq left, penny never got that. if you wanna consider rony seikaly or felton spencer a quality big...

  
 
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Originally Posted by NobleKane

once shaq left it was a wrap for dude. 
  
You do realize that he had a major knee injury the firstwithout shaq right?

He mised 5 games total during his first 3 yrs in the league then 23 in 96/97... then he was only able to play in 19 the year Shaq left, you know the year he blew his knee.

 
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I somewhat agree with OP, but I would've liked to have evaluated him if he had a less injury-plagued career.

When he was healthy though
 
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Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by CosmicCanon

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

please close this thread, cause you obviously dont know  what you are talking about.  he might not have been a top 3 player, but being named to all nba 1st team twice, means he was top 5 and the best point guard in the league..

you're the one that made a thread, so why create another penny thread if you dont think he's that good? but then again, who cares what you think?
Gary Payton>Penny
I understand Penny could score, but Payton had more assists and better defense, thus better PG.
and that is why penny was a 2 time all nba 1st team? by the time gp was all nba 1st team, penny was injured. gp's defense is soo overrated.. just cause he played good D against jordan in the 96 finals, people think he's the better pg? please...

  
So a couple good games against MJ is why everyone (players, fans, analysts) says GP is the best defensive point guard of all time, and one of the best defenders in league history?
 
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This thread makes me sad..

*Que the gif of movies where the character is walking with their heads down**
 
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