Pope/Vatican accused of crimes against humanity Vol. About time

Joined Sep 10, 2005
[h1]Abuse victims accuse pope, Vatican officials of crimes against humanity[/h1]

Pope Benedict XVI appears at a ceremony marking the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks in Plebiscito square in Ancona, Italy, on Sunday.

[Updated at 8:40 a.m. ET] Victims of abuse by Catholic priests asked the International Criminal Court to charge Pope Benedict XVI and other top Vatican officials with crimes against humanity, a victims' group announced Tuesday.
The pope and other church leaders "tolerate and enable the systematic and widespread concealing of rape and child sex crimes throughout the world," said the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests and the Center for Constitutional Rights in a joint statement.

They filed more than 20,000 pages of documents with the international court in the Netherlands to support their charges, they said.

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi told CNN he was aware of the filing but had no comment.

The International Criminal Court did not immediately respond to a CNN question about whether it believed it had jurisdiction to prosecute the pope.

But Barbara Dorris, the president of SNAP, said it was the natural venue for the case.

"We are convinced this is the proper jurisdiction," she told CNN. "Who else can investigate violent crimes of a global magnitude? The ICC was created to deal with widespread systematic violent crimes against humanity."

The executive director of the International Bar Association, on the other hand, said it was unlikely the international court would find there was evidence of crimes against humanity.

"This requires a government policy, a plan, a widespread and systematic attack against a civilian population," Mark Ellis said.

"Not to suggest that victims were not harmed, but to meet the level of crimes against humanity you really have to show that there is a policy or a plan to initiate this," he said.

People can be held responsible for crimes if they knew - or should have known - they were occurring, Ellis said.

But the blind eye victims accuse the Catholic Church of turning to abuse of children by priests does not rise to the level of crimes against humanity, he suggested.

"They are crimes and they are serious, but within the jurisdiction of the ICC you have to be very specific. I don't see that you would be able to tick the boxes necessary" to bring a prosecution, he predicted.

That the defendant is the pope - along with three senior cardinals - also raises "jurisdictional hurdles," he said.

But simply filing the request will force the prosecutor to look at the case, Ellis said.

It "might be beneficial to the plaintiffs to force the court to respond," he said, saying the filing was more than just a publicity stunt.

"It raises the profile of these issues," he said.

In addition to the pope, SNAP and the CCF want prosecutions of Cardinal William Levada, the head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith; Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican Secretary of State; and Cardinal Angelo Sodano, the Dean of the College of Cardinals.

 I'm keeping my fingers crossed these charges actually go somewhere, those victims need justice and the Catholic Church needs to be knock down more than a few pegs. Disgusting organization
Joined Sep 10, 2005
I don't either. Hopefully this investigation will shed some light on that and then those pedophiles will get locked up like they deserve.
Joined Oct 2, 2008
Originally Posted by Cuffy

I never understood why they were sexually abusing little boys
I think the Catholic church is haven for closet homosexuals and pedophiles. 
Since they can't get Married - No one will question them to why they are single. 

Most of the pedophiles are located in churches in Latin America were family are of little income and die hard religious believes.

Joined Jan 19, 2005
I don't care whether the crimes are called "crimes against humanity", or not.
The men that raped these children deserve to suffer the consequences for their actions.
Joined Sep 10, 2005
^^I concur. It's a literally a crime in itself that the Catholic Church systematically covered up these rapes and molestations, allowed the pedophile priest to continue to work, and paid off the victim. And shame on those families for talking that hush money.


formerly gotholesinmysocks
Joined Apr 11, 2008
disturbing stuff

u always hear things about this and nothing gets done to them. well, most of them.
Joined Jun 1, 2011
I don't understand how someone can be of Catholic faith with all the dirt the Vatican has done over the centuries ...
Joined Oct 8, 2008
It's not JUST the Catholic church that are committing molestation's, though.

Joined Jan 19, 2005
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

lol, a few 100 years to late but better late than never
Rest of NT isn't even on the same page.
The Catholic Archives System is set up that no records, including confessionals, can be reviewed until 100 years has past.
This alone has protected so many clergy from legal action.
Joined Apr 14, 2004
Looks like the church is about to get done in the butt.

But in reality, nothing will happen. Vatican is too powerful and has too many blind followers to be taken down.
Joined Nov 17, 2009
This is one of many reasons why I am not religious anymore, and why I lost all faith in being catholic. 


Joined Nov 19, 2010
Originally Posted by Cobra Kai

It's not JUST the Catholic church that are committing molestation's, though.



formerly thewindscar31
Joined Aug 17, 2005
Punishing the people responsible is the right thing to do.

I can see how the Pope and the Church wants to play it by wanting to be "forgiving", but these horrible acts can not go under the radar.


formerly thewindscar31
Joined Aug 17, 2005
Originally Posted by HARM

I don't understand how someone can be of Catholic faith with all the dirt the Vatican has done over the centuries ...
The answer is in your question.

The Catholic church has definitely done a ton of dirt that has done well to cover up its core roots in beliefs(see the reformation.) I for one do not agree with more than enough of what the Church has done. However, it is the core faith in the God, the trinity and the rituals of Catholicism that capture what I associate with my personal spiritual journey, that keeps me going to Mass every Sunday.
Joined Apr 4, 2008
Originally Posted by HARM

I don't understand how someone can be of Catholic faith with all the dirt the Vatican has done over the centuries ...
Main reason I don't go to Church anymore. I still embrace the ideologies but the corruption aspect of it is too much for me.
Joined Jul 30, 2011

Always thought this was funny... I hope they get nailed to the wall so to speak but I'll be very suprised if anything happens with this. Pisses me off to no end...


Joined Jul 10, 2011
The Beast...study and learn about the atrocities committed by these so called people of God. History is full of tales that would make you cringe.
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