Porn does a lot more harm than good and is a serious problem

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So in class today we talked about violence against women, especially when it comes to sex and why our society has normalized it so much and I figured I try and get NT's opinion on it.

IMO porn is the single biggest factor on why we as a society normalize rape and other forms of sexual violence against women. I forgot the number my professor said, but essentially almost every man watches some form of porn and often times porn depicts women as submissive, and enjoying being degraded and often times porn flirts with flat out physical abuse. At the same time, porn also depicts women as "enjoying" that, so in turn men internalize this and perform this on women in real life. Those in power watch porn often to so they have very little to no apathy for women when they cry rape.

You factor in the fact that sex in itself is a power emotion, so when you associate something with sex it'll more likely than not stick with you far easier so subconsciously you watch porn and you start becoming what you watch. 

Moving forward, with the advent of technology getting into the hands of kids younger and younger, young boys (and girls) first introduction to porn could be a ******** or ghetto gaggers scene or something which isn't ideal, and it perpetuates the normalizing of physical violence towards women at a dangerously young age. This isn't even accounting for all of the other issues revolving porn, (Erectile dysfunction is becoming more and more common with young people, the diving into deeper and more weird forms of porn to get that dopamine fix, the brain not being even evolved enough to handle excessive amounts of porn viewing, etc. etc.) which is why I'm saying porn does more harm than good.

Y'all boys agree or nah?

 
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I agree. I think the availability of it and people's inability to do anything in moderation is a bad combination.

Pretty much strictly watch real amateur/homemade and stick to viewing once a week, preferably with another person. It has made the viewing experience more positive mentally and physically.
 
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So in class today we talked about violence against women, especially when it comes to sex and why our society has normalized it so much 
our society?

are you implying that before/outside our society, violence against women wasn't the norm?

what time period/civilizations are you comparing "our society" to?

Because im fairly certain that violence against women was the norm LOOOOOOONG before white men landed in north america
 
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without porn i wouldn't have learned how to eat dat booty right. you wrong b not srs
You got me 


But most if not all of my sex ed came from Porn, and I'd imagine that with every child having a cellphone before their 13th bday, they'll encounter sex via porn as sex ed too. That's dangerous.

Like we're adults and we've normalized and become callous to porn (which is an issue within itself) but a 12 year old who's curious about women, his first encounter with sex is watching a woman essentially being slapped, choked, verbally abused, can't be healthy at all. 

Nobody takes rape seriously in this country and porn is the reason why. I'm willing to bet over half of all men in this country watch porn at least once a week, half of the time without even trying to.
 
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our society?

are you implying that before/outside our society, violence against women wasn't the norm?

what tiem period/civilizations are you comparing "our society" to?

Because im fairly certain that violence against women was the norm LOOOOOOONG before white men landed in north america
I was policing the discussion to our society because...well I don't know or lived in North America in the 1700's and have no idea what type of porn they watched or had access to 


I'm mainly focusing on the role that porn plays with respect to physical violence to women and it's destruction of our current society today. In that respect, the violence that you're talking about doesn't really apply to what I was referencing. 
 

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Isn't this the same as saying that violent movies or video games cause violence in the real world?

The idea that women are submissive objects to be used by men has very deep roots and I think it's unfair to place the majority of the blame for that on pornography
 
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our society?

are you implying that before/outside our society, violence against women wasn't the norm?

what tiem period/civilizations are you comparing "our society" to?

Because im fairly certain that violence against women was the norm LOOOOOOONG before white men landed in north america
I was policing the discussion to our society because...well I don't know or lived in North America in the 1700's and have no idea what type of porn they watched or had access to 


I'm mainly focusing on the role that porn plays with respect to physical violence to women and it's destruction of our current society today. In that respect, the violence that you're talking about doesn't really apply to what I was referencing. 
I'm pretty sure violence against women was more commonly accepted before porn was invented than afterwards

What time period are you comparing "current society" to?

Was violence against women less common in 18th/19th century america?
 
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Isn't this the same as saying that violent movies or video games cause violence in the real world?

The idea that women are submissive objects to be used by men has very deep roots and I think it's unfair to place the majority of the blame for that on pornography
I don't think violence movies and video games activate the same triggers as sex do which makes Porn a bit more problematic. Attraction to the opposite sex will supersede just about anything. (I could be wrong on this though)
 
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Isn't this the same as saying that violent movies or video games cause violence in the real world?

The idea that women are submissive objects to be used by men has very deep roots and I think it's unfair to place the majority of the blame for that on pornography
I don't think violence movies and video games activate the same triggers as sex do which makes Porn a bit more problematic. Attraction to the opposite sex will supersede just about anything. (I could be wrong on this though)
where is the proof of this correlation?
 
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I'm pretty sure violence against women was more commonly accepted before porn was invented than afterwards

What time period are you comparing "current society" to?

Was violence against women less common in 18th/19th century america?
I'm comparing our society B.P. and A.P. (Before porn and after porn) specifically when porn became so easily accessible. 
 
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Wait are you saying porn is a cause of further normalization of violence against women or its the cause of violence against women?

I think porn addiction and early exposure are more detrimental to society as a whole [emoji]128064[/emoji]
 
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Its not even the availability that I have an issue with. Its the marketing of sexual violence basically. Like you mentioned, ghetto gaggers isn't something that I would do with my girl, nor would anyone in my immediate circle who's shared stories their sexual encounters with me. However, if that's something you do and both enjoy, go for it. I just don't think that needs to be the premier type of porn fantasy marketed. Especially since a lot of people get their sex education from porn.
 
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I'm pretty sure violence against women was more commonly accepted before porn was invented than afterwards

What time period are you comparing "current society" to?

Was violence against women less common in 18th/19th century america?
I'm comparing our society B.P. and A.P. (Before porn and after porn) specifically when porn became so easily accessible. 
So what time periods do BP and AP consist of...

and do domestic violence/violence against women rates coincide with your hypothesis?
 
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Wait are you saying porn is a cause of further normalization of violence against women or its the cause of violence against women?

I think porn addiction and early exposure are more detrimental to society as a whole [emoji]128064[/emoji]
That is what I'm saying. Porn from my vantage point, may be the single biggest vehicle in the normalization of violence against women and it's one of the big causes of it too. I think both are true. The latter being less though.

And in regards to your second point, I agree with that too. That's why I think porn does a lot more harm than good. The cons in regards to porn dwarf the benefits that come from it. Higher levels of infidelity, hgiher levels of sexual abuse, unrealistic expectations of sex and of your partner, erectile dysfunction, just a myriad of issues that come with being able to access porn so easily.
 
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I'm comparing our society B.P. and A.P. (Before porn and after porn) specifically when porn became so easily accessible. 
I would argue that society as a whole has adopted less harmful attitudes toward women as pornography has become more accepted, but I'm not sure if there's correlation there.
 
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So what time periods do BP and AP consist of...

and do domestic violence/violence against women rates coincide with your hypothesis?
I'm only 24 so I don't really have a reference point for when porn came into prominence within our society. I kind of just grew up with it. By the time I was 13 Porn videos and images were a click away.

And I would have to research your second point, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. I think it's a plausible hypothesis / correlation. Increased amounts of porn usage probably has something to do with an increase in domestic violence / violence against women. I'd imagine that the people committed those acts probably watch porn a lot. These are a lot of assumptions I'm making though
 
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I would argue that society as a whole has adopted less harmful attitudes toward women as pornography has become more accepted, but I'm not sure if there's correlation there.
I don't know if porn is the reason why society has adopted a less harmful position on it's attitudes towards women. That may be an entirely different discussion to be had. 

In general, what you're referring to is society's stance that it has on women and for me, that doesn't really connect to if Porn plays a role in how normalized rape and sexual / physical violence are within our society. 
 
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This definitely an odd blanket statement.

Everybody I know takes it serious.
Yeah that was a statement that probably should have been revised by me.

I should have said "in my life experience, i've encountered an alarming amount of both men and women who don't take rape nearly as serious as they should." 
 
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Isn't this the same as saying that violent movies or video games cause violence in the real world?

The idea that women are submissive objects to be used by men has very deep roots and I think it's unfair to place the majority of the blame for that on pornography
This.
 
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Kids these days don't have to work for **** that's why they catching that ed so early. You know how many times I had to click the back button on the cable remote to see even one stabilized tata?!
 
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