Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[finessence]

These new fans don’t even want conscious rap… and y’all think they want traditional R&B? Nah.

Ask a 22-28 year old to name some R&B songs, new or old and they gone look clueless

 

[D StaXX]

The Canadians brought something new…that got over saturated and slowly killed off parts of R&B.

The OVO sound (Drake/Weekend/PND/Tory) dudes. The production and atmosphere carried those. It was less about the actual singing. Then came Tiller right off of there, and 6lack and an entire sub genre that just keeps regenerating from there. I vividly remember like 2014-2016…that took off crazy.

Let us also not forget, American R&B SUPERSTARS, ditching R&B in the late 00s/early 10s for Pop R&B and Ibiza rap. That’s Usher/CB etc. They really chased some terrible trends with that.

And then the R&B thugs. Chris Brown/Trey Songz.

Sometimes, versatility and lending too much of a sauce can kill an essence. I don’t think R&B is in a bad place right now…it is just waaaaay to spread out, and the performers aren’t performing/dancing.

Neo Soul is still here. CB is a student of the game. He just too talented and tries to do everything. But still ain’t ever grow his sound.

All facts. You hit the nail on the head. Witnessed all of this in real time.
And like you said, R&B isn’t in a bad spot cause it’s out there if you want to listen. But I do have to actively search for it. The showmanship needs to be brought back.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

For a minute now I been thinking it's a effort into killing what r&b is and redefinning it. White folks can't do r&b the way it's supposed to be. Jon B, Teena Marie, Bobby Caldwell it's only a couple white folks that could really make r&b but if you say Jack Harlow is a singer and theres this push to take him serious now you can change it.

 

[rbk93]

finessence you’re about to be added to that list with rbk93

Don’t let me get on some of the garbage posted in here.

It takes a special kind of ear to appreciate wave music.

 

[finessence]

Jack Harlow ain’t no damn R&B

 

[Ricky D]

These new fans don’t even want conscious rap… and y’all think they want traditional R&B? Nah.

Ask a 22-28 year old to name some R&B songs, new or old and they gone look clueless

When I was a Drill Sergeant, one of the trainees was telling me how his mom listened to old school R&B. I asked who exactly and he responded with Destiny’s Child. Made me feel some type of way cause at the time I was around 26/27 and that’s what he considered to be old school R&B

 

[Ricky D]

Grine what’s the deal with Gangsta? I always heard about him in old CM songs. A lot of comments on these Vlad interviews saying he a rat and Baby disowned him.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Jack Harlow ain’t no damn R&B

We know

 

[wavycrocket]

When I was a Drill Sergeant, one of the trainees was telling me how his mom listened to old school R&B. I asked who exactly and he responded with Destiny’s Child. Made me feel some type of way cause at the time I was around 26/27 and that’s what he considered to be old school R&B

I forgot what NBA Youngboy song, he thought Jodeci was one person . The bar kinda clever, if he did that intentionally

“I don't know sht about no Jodeci
But you gon' suck me to his music while I sit back thinkin', smoke my weed”

 

[JRaW’d]

Leon Bridges >>>

Dude got R&B on his back fr. Like real, r&b. Not that wanna be rap, whiny s***.

Damn good voice. Damn good song writer.

And of course, outside of his core fan base, no one knows about him.

Its just what the game is these days.

 

[finessence]

I don’t even be expecting a 18-25 year old to know R&B. Just respect it.

It’s like the Lebron vs Jordan debate, I can’t expect a young kid to know of Jordan if they’ve never seen him play.

That’s where R&B is with the youth

 

[wavycrocket]

And of course, outside of his core fan base, no one knows about him.

Its just what the game is these days.

Man, he’s HELLA popular . Cut it out.

*****s just don’t know him for real. Cmon man. He got a video with like 65 million views, and be killing Spotify lol

 

[finessence]

BJ Chicago kid… older but should’ve been huge.

I see that Masego dude and the pink sweats dude be getting pushed also

 

[daruma]

i think yall are grouping grown/traditional R&B vs pop R&B together.

breezy is saying there arent any pop r&b male singers anymore

 

[king j]

Xavier Omar is a dope R&B artist

 

[Nujavez]

Jacquees tried

 

[addict4sneakers]

Daniel Caesar had a chance. My girl Syd put out a great album. DVSN is tough though they be trying to get that toxic stuff off a little too much for my old self

 

[D StaXX]

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Jenevieve dope as hell. Remind me of the girl from Groove Theory.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Jenevieve dope as hell. Remind me of the girl from Groove Theory.

I didn’t like her album. Sounded like forever 21 music. Little cutie pie though

 

[frshstunna]

Rap has made people accept people not being able to sing sing. That's also another problem.

Some of these R&B acts wouldn't exist in the 80's and 90's, because you had to actually sing, much less the performance aspect being lost.

That’s why it’s funny CB saying it…Yo speaking some truth but he shoulda been leading the R&B **** but he spent all that time trying to figure out who he wants to be, a tough guy, semi rapper or not

 

[Grine]

Grine what’s the deal with Gangsta? I always heard about him in old CM songs. A lot of comments on these Vlad interviews saying he a rat and Baby disowned him.

Apparently, they’re saying that he’s an informant. His record is sealed about how he was release. He went from life in prison to being freed on a random day.

I read he gave up information on murders throughout New Orleans - even on rappers for sentence reduction.

Imagine him talking about Yella murder…who would be in that mix? Baby?

 

[VARNELL HILL]

I kinda tuned out of Chris Brown after his debut honestly.

His post-assault music just isn't for me. **** sounds too cookie-cutter.

 

[wavycrocket]

Peezy smaller than Ray now . Them *****s damn near switched bodies

 

[rbk93]

Don’t listen to Chris Brown. Don’t listen to R&B outside of the classics so yeah.