Scholarship opportunity for current/future STEM fields, to include a job after with DoD

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  1. jthagreat

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    Good morning yall. At work today, i received an email about this scholarship that is open to anyone over 18, and a U.S. Citizen. Its called "SMART" (Science, Mathematics &Research for Transformation)

    Some of the benefits include:

    *Full tuition and education related fees (does not include items such as meal plans, housing, or parking)
    *Cash award paid at a rate of $25,000 - $38,000 depending on degree pursuing (may be prorated depending on award length)
    *Summer research internships
    *Health insurance allowance up to $1,200 per calendar year
    *Miscellaneous Supplies Allowance of $1,000 per academic year
    *Mentoring
    *Employment placement after graduation



    SCHOLARSHIP FOR SERVICE PROGRAM
    Undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral students pursuing degrees
    in Science, Technology, Engineering, & Mathematics (STEM) fields


    + Full tuition and educational fees
    + Generous cash stipend
    + Employment with DoD facilities after graduation
    + Summer internships, health insurance, & book allowance



    http://smart.asee.org


    **** I am not affiliated in anyway with this, just wanna see some folks make that come up. ****

    As far as this thread, if folks know of any opportunities, post them here. Other threads have been informative, helpful, and hopefully motivating to others, I hope this one can serve that same purpose.
     
  2. slicknick951

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    Rep to you

    Im sure someone can use this information on here
     
  3. super producer j

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    Highly doubt I'll get the scholarship, but I apply to any and every one remotely near my field of study.


    Already thread of the year, thanks OP. Gonna pass this along.
     
  4. ozarkshark

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    Just applied thanks op,,,,anymore sources for school funds? My fasfa and tap gonna be dried up some next fall :frown:
     
  5. dathbgboy

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    And it covers Grad school too, good looks OP
     
  6. jthagreat

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    yea, doesnt hurt to try. The DoD-esqe scholarships i put in for in the past i got tho, so let that be motivation.

    the PDF along with the email states doctoral students as well. I plan to send an email asking what sciences "truly make up" STEM fields, cause altho i dont think psych stuff would fit, asking would truly clarify, and i may not miss an opportunity.
     
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  8. jthagreat

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    Good looks Dath.

    Cognitive, Neural, and Behavioral Sciences

    My BA is actually in "Behavioral sciences," so if i can find a doctoral program dealing with that, and possibly could get some money with this schol, id be smoot sailing.
     
  9. bballermarkie

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    Subbed for later. Working toward my ChemEng degree
     
  10. dathbgboy

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    My wife is looking to get her Masters and PhD in Psych so this could her as well. I need too many prereqs to consider going back for a masters in IS so I hope she can bevefit from this.
     
  11. beezygotsole

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    Great program, I have a few old co workers that were AF SMART recipients.
    The program is very competitive and has it's pro's and cons.Of the three people that I knew in the program they would not cover their PhD.

    I turned down my AF PAQ offer (step under the SMART program) , everything that glitters isn't gold.

    Do your research, goodluck!
     
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  12. jthagreat

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    Do you mind speaking on it?
    I think a drawback would be the DoD job at the end when you could possibly have better options.
     
  13. beezygotsole

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    You are exactly right, that is the main drawback to the program. For every year that they pay for school you owe them 1 year of service, it is a 1:1 program. The people that I know in the program repaying their time, 2 people owed 5 years (BS & MS) , and one person owed 3 years (Double BS).

    Out of these 3 people, all of them wanted out of the program due to the lack of technical work and being underpaid. This was a huge red flag to me, one guy wanted out so bad that during the government sequestration he was praying to get riffed (let go from the job), so he wouldn't have to repay his time. They all loved the program while in school due to the stipends, 100% paid tuition, and internships. Those are the pro's of the SMART program all of the cons come post graduation, when you start working full time IMO.

    If you take a look at the opm website you can take a look at locality salaries. You will notice that the salaries are very low, when you start working after graduation you will be either a GS-7 (BS) or GS-9 (MS) , with an additional salary bonus due to engineering pay grade. While on the engineering pay scale in the SMART program you will get a raise every year. Non competitive raises up to GS-12, when you receive a raise you also go up 2 grades and 2 steps , for example

    GS-7 step 1 -> GS-9 step 3 -> GS-11 step 5 -> GS-12 step 7. DoD wise making it to a GS-12 is very good and can open up many doors for you. Most people don't reach GS-12 until mid to late 30s.

    You have to do a lot of research and weigh out the pros and cons for yourself before deciding to make a commitment with the SMART program.

    Make sure you will be doing technical work to gain good experience, and try to get a location with a good locality bonus if possible  (most likely you won't be able to pick your location).

    I received an AF PAQ offer , that I declined due to location and salary. The offers that I received from other companies were double the PAQ starting salary, and higher than GS-11 salary at the location I would have been working. Many companies offer tuition assistance, so don't let that be the only reason to go DoD.
     
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  14. jthagreat

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    I definitely could see how that would deter you and ultimately became the reason you turned it down.
    I guess my perception is clouded as I am and (likely) retire as a gov worker. So I dont see the issue with owing them time. I guess it would be a trade off, college paid for and lower paying job, or higher paying job but paying off loans. I dont know any engineers who arent an 11??

    The gov intern program i was in was a GS 7/9/11 program, that is intended for folks who already had there BA. After the program, i was fortunate to go to a command that paid for my masters.
     
  15. beezygotsole

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    If you complete the SMART program with only a BS you start at a GS-7 , if you complete an MS you start at GS-9.
    My old coworkers started at those pay grades as engineers, and I was offered a GS-7 step 1. I don't know a single person that started as a GS-11.

    If you have a substantial amount of loans then it is a drawback but less than 35K in loans can be managed quite easily with industry salaries (65K+ starting salary).
    Also many people make it into 6 figures within 5-8 years after graduation, so loans aren't that big of a factor especially if your company has tuition assistance.

    If DoD had more competitive salaries it would definitely be the best choice IMO.
     
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