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NY dudes lost they identity so now they wanna do songs wit OJ da juiceman like thats gonna help em sell
Originally Posted by illphillip
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We're on the same page. I heard that %$$@ Irv said last night and you're right, it was DEAD ON.
I hear you on NWA. They opened the door. I didn't mean for them to be lumped into the problem.
They still did the records their way. Ruthless Records. Indie label. Yes, they got the major distribution, but the label wasn't involved in that project.
No they weren't gangsters in "reality". They were speaking for the voiceless, like you said.
And I think NWA, while pushing the "Gangster Rap" steez, were influenced by Public Enemy more than anyone. They were trying to shine a light on the violence in their communities.
But kids always take the worst out of things and try to make it shine. You see kids hyped off Scarface, Paid In Full etc. They talk about all the gunplay etc. No one remembers the part where cats DIE.
And that's what happened. People missed the message (yes, "%!@% The Police" is a song with a message. "Express Yourself" as well) and focused on the rah rah and everything spiraled out of control.
Major labels soaked it up and capitalized on it. And here we are.......
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07
for me its the fans/world that has failed both the rappers and the industry ... it seems the wacker you get, the more you sell ...
When the labels got involved, and rappers started making records for the masses, to appeal to the suburbs, everything went to hell musically.
Pretty much.
We lost control when "we" were no longer the target audience.