they get stipends for road trips. a lot get money from work study that far exceeds what regular students are eligible to attain. they're not in need.
they get paid all the time....pell grants and #$* like that...they get money to spend for bowl games wherever they go...so yea they get paid
This. And for the people saying they shouldn't be paid, put yourself in the position of a high profile college sports athlete. Someone like say J.J. Redick orTim Tebow. Consider how much money is being made off of them, with them not being able to see any of that $. The common response to that would be that theythey are getting paid by boosters on the side and if they need something it's taken care of. Then if that's the case, then treating NCAA athletesalmost like a union where they can pool revenues from ticket sales and merchandise. I'm very surprised that in the money-hungry capitalist driven society that we live in that there hasn't been a collegiate athlete who try's to goto court and get some $ for all the jerseys they sell with his number, and all the tickets the sell because of his Naismith/Hesiman and all that. I think Iremember seeing Ed O'Bannon trying to sue the NCAA, but I'm not sure what's up with that. edit: at people making the assertion that a free education is fair market value for these athletes considering how much these athletic departmentshave/make.
Pmac, is it possible for a line to get drawn between JJ Redick and Sean Dockery? the stars absolutely do deserve a kick back, hell...SVSM owes Lebron. But there just are way too many variables to ever make it work.
That's never gonna fly, since NCAA are sold w/o names on them. So the #16 FSU football jersey, could be for Chris Weinke, or Chris Rix. And the ones that DO have names, aren't the NCAA official ones and I'm sure those players get some kind of kickback.
^ Exactly. How would you pay a high profile player? 10k? 20k? 30k? A year? Thats crazy to think that even with 30k+ per year, free housing, food/rent,books,school grades paid off for, they would still need money back? But it can be an advantage to pay those who you think might be one and done. Think if Texas paid Kevin Durant to stay couple more years, or Syracuse to keepMelo for more championships. They each school could benefit their extra years from staying. Its a double edge sword in my opinion. You cant calculate the value of some players. Then there just gonna be alot of internal problems. Players A v.s PlayerB, why they should be paid more. Should Colt McCoy be paid as much as Tim Tebow, yadi yadi. I think the free school, easy grades and degrees(some one needs to explain to me how they are able to go to practice, games, take test, and still remain a 3.5+on their gpa, cause thats crazy talk, and i doubt all of them are doing it cause there smart).
Not really. These dude go to class for all summer sessions in order to lighten the course load during the season. These dudes don't have to take 19 credit hours a semester because they already knocked out like 15 over the summer. They go to school year round, for 4 years. Not impossible. And they take tests on the road, have tutors on the road and a lot of these schools (like Clemson for example) have EXCELLENT Academic support for these dudes. And add in the fact that some have the BS majors, or are undecided until their Jr year, so they can take fluff classes for 3 yrs. And some of 'em cheat, yes . No doubt.
MOST are getting free educations and if they're good enough to make it to a bowl, some little gift bag with some pretty nice stuff.
If they're allowed to work more than regular students (or get paid more), siphon a decent amount of housing for other uses, I'm ok with that. Gladactually cuz it bothered me that it was only a housing stipend and didn't include clothes, a transportation allowance, etc. I absolutely don't think they should get a cut of jersey sales or whatever. It's the NFL's version of the minor leagues. Training if you will.It's just that colleges are a lot more popular than your typical minor league team. Wanna be paid while training for the top pro league? There are otheroptions out there. It's just that college football is the best and most realistic option for football players. Other sports like basketball and baseballhave a ton of options if they feel "abused" by the college system. With the large fan bases, colleges are a great way to raise your profile soyou're more marketable when you go pro. Compensation isn't purely monetary. Next, you "pay" them guys are gonna be saying to pay the LittleLeaguers.
Well I think there is a way to do it, my conference size possibly? I dont have "the answer" but there has to be a way. I agree we may never see ithappen. As far as recruiting goes, the guy who goes to play football at Florida is not being recruited by Florida International. As long as the major athleticprograms/conferences are on a pay scale then it should be ok. And I dont mean a huge amount of money, more like a stipend. If non athletes are allowed to workand be students, then they either have to give a stipend or let athletes work in the off season
/thread. certain athletes feel like they should have everything handed to them on a golden platter. #%*%.
Hell nawl. Students already paying 40-80k for that piece of paper so they can get a higher paying job. You wanna pay the student athletes who arealready getting an education, eating, and living for FREE? Oh, I'd be salty. But really, how would this payment system be regulated? Kids are already getting paid, now you wanna pay them legally. Next thing you know kids will go towhichever school is the highest bidder and can promise the fattest paycheck. Greed always prevails in the end. Paying student athletes would justcreate a bigger mess than the boosters.
Yeah I think they should take a portion of the 17M you get if go to a BCS Bowl game. Like maybe 1 million put in away for like 5 years then it split among all85 scholarship players from that years team but only if they graduated . Its not much but it would be reward for being a succesful team.
The NCAA definitely needs to relax their limits on work hours, $ and places. Situations like that car dealership in Norman make them overreact.Some of these dudes have kid(s) to feed (Jorvorskie Lane I'm looking at you). Also they need to let stipend amounts increase. Yup kinda the same as a flat out salary, but within the current system. I'm talking about the upper limit,mostly for true hardship cases. But ultimately I have to agree with my fellow Aggie. There are only a few dozen, if that, teams that can turn a profit, let alone entiredepartments, when we are talking about a handful. You could pay these kids more money, but then all those perks disappear and the complaining remains. Sam Keller is doing the same thing. They are suing over the use of likenesses, mostly focusing on video games. EA Sports is also a nameddefendant.