So jordan brand is going back to limted releases again starting may 2018!

The last good team shoe was

It's been a while

 

I don't remember any prototypes whoring out the Nike Air logo on the heel.

 

Well said.

 

Ive camped before and violence was not the problem. It was the kids in front of us that freely admitted they were buying just to sell for 400 dollars. They gave 2 sh--- about the shoe at all. They solely just wanted to make money. That's what dilutes the shoe buying process, people like them. They buy hype, we buy the product because we want it.

 

Was fun while it lasted.

 

FBI, Jordan wore that once with the Bullets throwback.

 

That must of been nice, because over 70% percent of the times I had to line up ( I say that because I'm not down with waiting over night to get pair of kicks, longest I did was about 4 hours hence why I didn't use that phrase) their was always some sort of altercation. Sadly 50% of those instances it was some young dude who got stomped out because he was getting a size that he couldn't fit but the person behind him could, they would come late and casually hang out at the front of the line and act like they were there the whole time when the stores finally open, or they would try and buy multiple pairs even though it was stated beforehand it was one per person (employee's dont care either way, they just want to go home). Most of the time it was the older cats bringing the aggression as well, that's why I said its probably a good thing the "old heads" aren't camping like dude said earlier.

 

Only campouts I remember having any chaos was the CG/Concord 11 releases. Every other one was fairly calm.

 

A dude tried to get at me in line for the Cement 4 release (Jumpman not Nike Air) a few years back, saw a kid get slapped during Fire Red 5 release, I was at a mall and they're was almost a riot for the Gamma 11 KID sizes (ridiculous). Police had to be called for the Space Jam release of 2009 at my local mall as well (may have been 2008 ) . I have stories man lol

 

This so wrong

so what colorways have been so bad? The majority of the colorways have been monochrome or based around OG colorways.

and how did nike air help true blues or nike metallics? Non OG colorways that never had Nike Air shouldn't have Nike Air in the first place.

Did the jumpman stop sneakers from selling out three and four years ago? So now suddenly it is?

What was wrong with the 72 10's? Some of you complain about JB doing the same thing over and over, but then you don't want them to be creative.

I honestly think JB fans just want and need something to complain about and some of you will never be happy.

 

tonytabacco said in another thread, go to an email address, preorder and be done. Why can it not be that way?

 

because kicks are made five and six months in advance and it doesn't make business sense.

There's plenty of kicks you can ID

 

Excuses

 

So it don't make sense to preorder because they are made 6 months in advance. I'm confused, the reason that was said is to prevent lines and camping. Nike has always had the ability to do this. ALWAYS. But they don't, Why? If in May they decide to produce so they can drop in December, why not have a preorder situation. Makes perfect sense to me. If its done through Nike.com or anyone directly affiliated it can prevent a lot of potential problems.

 

More like I'm wondering if dudes are speaking for a company making billions in revenue or themselves.

None of you are saying anything that would increase revenue for Jordan Brand. You're only worried about yourself and what you want.

All the talk of only release a couple of releases, stop doing this, and stop doing that. Is silly.

What business are you in where you try not to make money and maximize profits?

I suppose McDonald's should just sell Big Mac's.

 

Wow man, I'm just speaking as a consumer that actually values the Brand Jordan. At some point in time big business has to listen to the people that got them there, like you and I. Once the Big Nike Inc stops listening, they start to be 2nd place to brands like Adidas. Its not about personal gains here, its about wanting the Brand to thrive as long as possible. These are ideas that come from us the buyers. If you have great ideas to help them why don't you start putting them out there for Nike maybe to start taking note.

 

How about it's just a current fad. Nike has running, lifestyle, basketball, tennis... They can compete, because they have more resources to pull from. If basketball isn't selling they can pull out a number of air max.

JB is essentially a basketball brand, and you can say retros are lifestyle

JB has to sure up some things, but the current time is just a product of today. Because they're in to Adidas today, doesn't mean they will be in two years. Look how popular Under Armour was three years ago. They need to find themselves and maintain their identity.

I just think JB has to go back to marketing it's product and make it mean something. Instead they just do a story for the SNKRS app or a blog. Same with Lebron, Kyrie, KD and Paul George. They're just colorways and nicknames. Who remembers all these nicknames?

 

Except WE as consumers give the products meaning. MJ hasn't played in a long, long time so, aside from collabs with people/companies that are already adding meaning to their products, JB is primarily recycling old ideas with retros. This is both a good and bad thing, depending on how you look at it but, either way, it's hard for JB to pitch new cws of old models without having any kind of significance towards the new cws. I think for this reason for every SBB you have 5-10 retro+ cws that are completely forgettable-it's really hard to give significance to new cws and even harder with new models (hence why the design of the XXX1 onwards have been largely retro-inspired).

 

Great posts throughout the thread man....

I couldn't agree with this more.

 

but Lebron is playing

KD is playing

Nike couldn't even do anything properly for Kobe's last year besides ID's and fade to blacks.

It's not just JB, it's what's going on at Nike overall.

Marketing a product at Nike/JB has become making a gimmick/nickname.

 

Simplest fix Is just put everything on nikeID then everyone gets what they want and supply meets demand and the hypebeasts/resellers will thin out. Just limit OG/NA colorways to maybe a few limited NikeID releases per year. Leave the sub part JB stuff for FNL, FLT, ETC.

Or employees buy all the stock so you're left standing first in line all night, only to walk in to purchase, and hardly any sizes are left. Employees are notorious resellers, I know of at least 10 off the top of my head, that buy almost all the stock at their discount and resell. One of my plugs is a FTA manager I've known since I was a teen and he even taxes me... sometimes.

 

It's all marketing at the end of the day. There's a lot of great CWs that have gone under the radar because of it.

 

I was strictly speaking to JB's strategy, which was my issue-HOW do they market retros when the entire reason retros exist is because of people's attachment to the original models and cws? Retros seem to be their bread and butter so much so that their influence has even taken over their flagship performance line, starting with the XXX1.

Honestly, JB is even in an awkward position where even someone like RW who might be the "face" of the brand is pretty much irrelevant because people will always attribute the Jumpman logo to MJ.

That said, to be honest, I think Jordan retros will eventually end up like products such as Chuck Taylors or Les Pauls where the initial, signature person (whos name is on the respective product) might be long gone but the products themselves stand on their own for decades. I don't think this will necessarily happen with EVERY retro model but I think a few models will have VERY long lives over the next few decades.

 

I think Nike needs to take a look at the Price Point and numbers of Retro's released each month . The Bred 13's which is a great OG colorway is sitting at Ruvilla and other places at 20% off . Oversaturation, high prices and 80's / 90's technology have killed JB . I am not sure making a retro limited unless it is a 1, 11 or collab is going to make any difference in interest . Seems like Adidas has taken advantage with a good trendy product which are comfortable to wear and driven people away from wearing basketball shoes for everyday wear . Limit the amount of retro colorway's released per year decrease the price point and pray it is not too late .