Soccer people: Why is there no draft in European Football?

2,299
106
Joined Jan 14, 2006
Im not at all familiar with the transfers and stuff in European Football. But ive never figured out why there isnt a draft in the three big europeanfootball leagues in Europe.

La Liga, Serie A, Premier league
 

xtapolapacetl

Banned
6,843
126
Joined Aug 8, 2006
It's a different system where the wealthiest teams get the best players. That's why you see the EPL dominated by 4 teams year after year.
 
4,754
186
Joined Dec 29, 2005
Teams have their own developmental camps where they get their players young (in early teens) and work them up to the big leagues to play for them. That'swhy the big 4 in England dominate so much like homie above me said.
 
2,706
10
Joined May 3, 2003
the lack of a draft is a part of why i think the big four dominate, but a bigger reason, i would think, is the lack of a salary cap.

there is really nothing stopping chelsea, united, and city from buying whomever they want.

i don't know why there isn't a draft, but i don't think it's needed.
 
2,299
106
Joined Jan 14, 2006
how do all the other teams in the league still survive with no chance of getting superstars

wouldnt those teams just go bankrupt, and the EPL loses a team
 
12,052
1,704
Joined Dec 14, 2001
Where you going to draft these kids from? the kids are on development teams since they are teenagers.
 

dland24

Supporter
26,633
6,782
Joined Nov 18, 2007
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

It's a different system where the wealthiest teams get the best players. That's why you see the EPL dominated by 4 teams year after year.

Seems pretty fair.
 
7,798
3,527
Joined May 9, 2004
Originally Posted by Ziostilon

how do all the other teams in the league still survive with no chance of getting superstars

wouldnt those teams just go bankrupt, and the EPL loses a team
ticket sales and tv rights hold em down.
 
2,299
106
Joined Jan 14, 2006
Originally Posted by RetroBaller

Where you going to draft these kids from? the kids are on development teams since they are teenagers.
same way from all the other leagues

every kid from the world can declare, and just make it a 12 Round Draft
get UEFA to govern it, and make it so these kids can't declare for the draft until a certain age. So lets say when they're 16, each kid can choosewhich league's draft they want to go for.

For example:
So John might want to declare for the Serie-A draft. and Tom might want to declare for the EPL draft.

Say Arsenal drafts John, so Arsenal has the rights to John and he can't sign with any other EPL team until hes past the age 22. So if John doesnt want toplay for Arsenal, John can go sign with Barcelona, but he cant sign with Man U.

Originally Posted by Smedroc

Originally Posted by Ziostilon

how do all the other teams in the league still survive with no chance of getting superstars

wouldnt those teams just go bankrupt, and the EPL loses a team
ticket sales and tv rights hold em down.
how do they still sell enough tickets when they're team pure out sucks
same thing with tv rights, why would any broadcasting company want to pay that much for watching a crappy team
 
22,524
2,383
Joined Nov 25, 2005
soccer is different

their fans are loyal despite how suck they are. selling out tickets is not a problem.
 
2,706
10
Joined May 3, 2003
Originally Posted by dland24

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

It's a different system where the wealthiest teams get the best players. That's why you see the EPL dominated by 4 teams year after year.

Seems pretty fair.
yeah, i know right?

instead of being drafted by some bum team in a place that you don't want to live, you get to earn a living doing your job where you want to.

 
7,318
107
Joined Sep 7, 2006
Originally Posted by Smedroc

Originally Posted by Ziostilon

how do all the other teams in the league still survive with no chance of getting superstars

wouldnt those teams just go bankrupt, and the EPL loses a team
ticket sales and tv rights hold em down.
how do they still sell enough tickets when they're team pure out sucks
same thing with tv rights, why would any broadcasting company want to pay that much for watching a crappy team
Premiership tv rights are sold collectively. Rather than buying tv rights for only the best teams, broadcasters are forced to buy the TV rightsfor EVERY single Premiership team. Not only do broadcasters have to pay to show the games live, but other channels must also pay to show highlights of thegames. Global broadcasters must also pay to show these games/highlights in other countries. When you add all this up, your looking at billions of dollars beingspent to broadcast these matches. Each Premiership club gets an equal share of the broadcasting revenue which is estimated to be around $100 mill (USD) perteam per season. Ofcourse, some clubs also have their own channels (Manchester United TV) which is a source of income as well.

Fans also buy tickets even if their teams stink for a variety of reasons. Soccer is engrained in people's culture. For example, in England, even thetiniest cities have teams and all the locals flock to see the games. Ticket prices are also very affordable unless you're going to see a match at OldTrafford, Stamford Bridge, The Emirates, Anfield, etc. Also, most teams only play about 20-25 homes games a season (including cup games) so it only works outto around 1 home match every 2 weeks. Finally, people pay to see the stars of other teams play. Imagine your a fan of Wigan and you get to see Man Utd. play atthe JJB Stadium for the equivalent of only $20-$30 USD. You get to see C. Ronaldo, Rooney...pretty much the best team in the world come thrash your local squadfor not much money at all


About the drafting...the youth system in soccer has been around forever. The best youth do not necessarily come from the biggest senior level squads. Someteams are notorious for developing young players and then selling them for huge profits. The most notable example is Ajax which has had one of the bestdevelopment systems in the world for many years but has not held onto the players in recent years to win trophies...rather, they've sold the players forobscene amounts of money.
 
8,065
118
Joined Apr 25, 2005
Originally Posted by dland24

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

It's a different system where the wealthiest teams get the best players. That's why you see the EPL dominated by 4 teams year after year.

Seems pretty fair.
Yeah, because it's fair for the Yankees to buy the top three free agents every off-season.
 
4,172
10
Joined Feb 22, 2007
[hr][/hr] Yeah, because it's fair for the Yankees to buy the top three free agents every off-season.
haha bingo...if you have the money and you're willing to throw it at a player, you can get em.
 
1,044
10
Joined Apr 26, 2005
some times they're teens, but they are looking to educate younger kids. starting at age 6 or something. then they develop their talents, make them go toschool. kinda how highschool basketball is done. and then hopefully when that kid is old enough and talented they play for that clubs first team. and if theydo well, other teams from other countries might offer contracts that are worth millions.
 
2,299
106
Joined Jan 14, 2006
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Originally Posted by Smedroc

Originally Posted by Ziostilon

how do all the other teams in the league still survive with no chance of getting superstars

wouldnt those teams just go bankrupt, and the EPL loses a team
ticket sales and tv rights hold em down.
how do they still sell enough tickets when they're team pure out sucks
same thing with tv rights, why would any broadcasting company want to pay that much for watching a crappy team
Premiership tv rights are sold collectively. Rather than buying tv rights for only the best teams, broadcasters are forced to buy the TV rights for EVERY single Premiership team. Not only do broadcasters have to pay to show the games live, but other channels must also pay to show highlights of the games. Global broadcasters must also pay to show these games/highlights in other countries. When you add all this up, your looking at billions of dollars being spent to broadcast these matches. Each Premiership club gets an equal share of the broadcasting revenue which is estimated to be around $100 mill (USD) per team per season. Ofcourse, some clubs also have their own channels (Manchester United TV) which is a source of income as well.

Fans also buy tickets even if their teams stink for a variety of reasons. Soccer is engrained in people's culture. For example, in England, even the tiniest cities have teams and all the locals flock to see the games. Ticket prices are also very affordable unless you're going to see a match at Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, The Emirates, Anfield, etc. Also, most teams only play about 20-25 homes games a season (including cup games) so it only works out to around 1 home match every 2 weeks. Finally, people pay to see the stars of other teams play. Imagine your a fan of Wigan and you get to see Man Utd. play at the JJB Stadium for the equivalent of only $20-$30 USD. You get to see C. Ronaldo, Rooney...pretty much the best team in the world come thrash your local squad for not much money at all


About the drafting...the youth system in soccer has been around forever. The best youth do not necessarily come from the biggest senior level squads. Some teams are notorious for developing young players and then selling them for huge profits. The most notable example is Ajax which has had one of the best development systems in the world for many years but has not held onto the players in recent years to win trophies...rather, they've sold the players for obscene amounts of money.


Dont the big teams like Chelsea get pissed because the bad teams are taking some of their TV revenue money.

How can the bad teams sell tickets for that little, and they dont even get to see superstar players every game

Since you're from Ontario, i can bring in the OHL as part of the discussion. Why is it as a culture they never left the development to seperate juniorclubs. And then develop them with their own resources once the player is of age, as part of their property
 
7,798
3,527
Joined May 9, 2004
Originally Posted by Ziostilon

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Originally Posted by Smedroc

Originally Posted by Ziostilon

how do all the other teams in the league still survive with no chance of getting superstars

wouldnt those teams just go bankrupt, and the EPL loses a team
ticket sales and tv rights hold em down.
how do they still sell enough tickets when they're team pure out sucks
same thing with tv rights, why would any broadcasting company want to pay that much for watching a crappy team
Premiership tv rights are sold collectively. Rather than buying tv rights for only the best teams, broadcasters are forced to buy the TV rights for EVERY single Premiership team. Not only do broadcasters have to pay to show the games live, but other channels must also pay to show highlights of the games. Global broadcasters must also pay to show these games/highlights in other countries. When you add all this up, your looking at billions of dollars being spent to broadcast these matches. Each Premiership club gets an equal share of the broadcasting revenue which is estimated to be around $100 mill (USD) per team per season. Ofcourse, some clubs also have their own channels (Manchester United TV) which is a source of income as well.

Fans also buy tickets even if their teams stink for a variety of reasons. Soccer is engrained in people's culture. For example, in England, even the tiniest cities have teams and all the locals flock to see the games. Ticket prices are also very affordable unless you're going to see a match at Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, The Emirates, Anfield, etc. Also, most teams only play about 20-25 homes games a season (including cup games) so it only works out to around 1 home match every 2 weeks. Finally, people pay to see the stars of other teams play. Imagine your a fan of Wigan and you get to see Man Utd. play at the JJB Stadium for the equivalent of only $20-$30 USD. You get to see C. Ronaldo, Rooney...pretty much the best team in the world come thrash your local squad for not much money at all


About the drafting...the youth system in soccer has been around forever. The best youth do not necessarily come from the biggest senior level squads. Some teams are notorious for developing young players and then selling them for huge profits. The most notable example is Ajax which has had one of the best development systems in the world for many years but has not held onto the players in recent years to win trophies...rather, they've sold the players for obscene amounts of money.
Dont the big teams like Chelsea get pissed because the bad teams are taking some of their TV revenue money.

How can the bad teams sell tickets for that little, and they dont even get to see superstar players every game

Since you're from Ontario, i can bring in the OHL as part of the discussion. Why is it as a culture they never left the development to seperate junior clubs. And then develop them with their own resources once the player is of age, as part of their property


If all the teams are getting equal doe how can a next team be pissed??


As for tickets...alot of true football fans here go to every game regardless. Their whole weekend revolves around that %*$#....dont who they're playing orif the wife catchin feelings., they're in the stand. Really is like a religion to alot of people.

Young players...I'd say its because of how the system was set up. Back on the day, clubs couldn't go scouting up and down the country and across theworld looking for talent. They had to work with what was in the area and bring them through the ranks. (This was when it was majority english players) Clubsstill do this now. If you've got a good system in place, you know you'l have good players constantly coming through to either supplement your squad orto sell on to other clubs.
 
2,299
106
Joined Jan 14, 2006
Originally Posted by Smedroc

Originally Posted by Ziostilon

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Originally Posted by Smedroc

Originally Posted by Ziostilon

how do all the other teams in the league still survive with no chance of getting superstars

wouldnt those teams just go bankrupt, and the EPL loses a team
ticket sales and tv rights hold em down.
how do they still sell enough tickets when they're team pure out sucks
same thing with tv rights, why would any broadcasting company want to pay that much for watching a crappy team
Premiership tv rights are sold collectively. Rather than buying tv rights for only the best teams, broadcasters are forced to buy the TV rights for EVERY single Premiership team. Not only do broadcasters have to pay to show the games live, but other channels must also pay to show highlights of the games. Global broadcasters must also pay to show these games/highlights in other countries. When you add all this up, your looking at billions of dollars being spent to broadcast these matches. Each Premiership club gets an equal share of the broadcasting revenue which is estimated to be around $100 mill (USD) per team per season. Ofcourse, some clubs also have their own channels (Manchester United TV) which is a source of income as well.

Fans also buy tickets even if their teams stink for a variety of reasons. Soccer is engrained in people's culture. For example, in England, even the tiniest cities have teams and all the locals flock to see the games. Ticket prices are also very affordable unless you're going to see a match at Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, The Emirates, Anfield, etc. Also, most teams only play about 20-25 homes games a season (including cup games) so it only works out to around 1 home match every 2 weeks. Finally, people pay to see the stars of other teams play. Imagine your a fan of Wigan and you get to see Man Utd. play at the JJB Stadium for the equivalent of only $20-$30 USD. You get to see C. Ronaldo, Rooney...pretty much the best team in the world come thrash your local squad for not much money at all


About the drafting...the youth system in soccer has been around forever. The best youth do not necessarily come from the biggest senior level squads. Some teams are notorious for developing young players and then selling them for huge profits. The most notable example is Ajax which has had one of the best development systems in the world for many years but has not held onto the players in recent years to win trophies...rather, they've sold the players for obscene amounts of money.
Dont the big teams like Chelsea get pissed because the bad teams are taking some of their TV revenue money.

How can the bad teams sell tickets for that little, and they dont even get to see superstar players every game

Since you're from Ontario, i can bring in the OHL as part of the discussion. Why is it as a culture they never left the development to seperate junior clubs. And then develop them with their own resources once the player is of age, as part of their property
If all the teams are getting equal doe how can a next team be pissed??


As for tickets...alot of true football fans here go to every game regardless. Their whole weekend revolves around that %*$#....dont who they're playing or if the wife catchin feelings., they're in the stand. Really is like a religion to alot of people.

Young players...I'd say its because of how the system was set up. Back on the day, clubs couldn't go scouting up and down the country and across the world looking for talent. They had to work with what was in the area and bring them through the ranks. (This was when it was majority english players) Clubs still do this now. If you've got a good system in place, you know you'l have good players constantly coming through to either supplement your squad or to sell on to other clubs.


na... i was saying wont the big teams that are generating the majority of that TV revenue money be pissed, that every team is getting equal money. wouldntthey want more money, and the bad teams get less doe.

I get that they treat the sport as a religion. But not the part about how cubs can maintain the team running when they're not charging much for thetickets. Do they just have a much much smaller stadium, and much cheaper players to pay for.
 
Top Bottom
  AdBlock Detected

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks some useful and important features of our website. For the best possible site experience please take a moment to disable your AdBlocker or head over to our upgrade page to donate for an ad-free experience Upgrade now