You're right tho, the spit in the mouth thing is legit disgusting

, another reason he's hard to listen to
As far as the Joe Budden Charlemagne thing, I've been thought for awhile now that they're both on some passive aggressive type **** towards each other.
At the end of the day though I think Charlemagne really does talk slick and act kinda funny towards Joe in alot of instances, like with the donkey of the day beating women ****, and so when all these Joe vs Drake events were happening and CTG was essentially saying Joe was wildin for no reason, Joe already wasn't really messing with the dude so he went and called him a puppet and a ****rider and all that. And there is a little truth to it but Joe was working off emotion and not necessarily logic when he said it, so he never really had arguments to back up his points.
Rory did bring up a solid point with the Birdman thing, and CTG and Schultz immediately tried to finesse their way out of it. CTG accuses Budden of throwing punches and then playing the victim but that's exactly what he did with Birdman, he was up there playing dumb like he didn't understand why Birdman wanted to see him. Him and Joe are playing a similar game but Joe is a known weirdo whereas Charlemagne really tries to come off like he just tells it how it is all the time so he looks a little more fraudulent acting like that. And Joe even admitted that he mighta went over the line with the puppet thing whereas I don't think Charlemagne admitted any kinda fault the whole time.
This is actually one time where Schultz and Rory were somewhat useful tho, I think by the end of this they both kinda figured out that Budden and CTG were on some bs in their own ways.