The Official NBA Season Thread: Battle for #1 in the West and East

I say this as somebody that know the Timberwolves suck. Like they’re absolutely dreadful internally, and on the court.

I want the NBA Cup because finally the NBA embraces “something weird”, god knows they went bland on the jerseys the last 15 years and pretty white collar on everything.

But idk whether to lol at the Cavs, who started 15-0*, and can’t even make it out of the group, or to laugh at the concept of the NBA Cup and their courts? Again, I love the weirdness of the cup and the Wolves are ******* terrible right now.
 
I say this as somebody that know the Timberwolves suck. Like they’re absolutely dreadful internally, and on the court.

I want the NBA Cup because finally the NBA embraces “something weird”, god knows they went bland on the jerseys the last 15 years and pretty white collar on everything.

But idk whether to lol at the Cavs, who started 13-0, and can’t even make it out of the group, or to laugh at the concept of the NBA Cup and their courts? Again, I love the weirdness of the cup and the Wolves are ******* terrible right now.

Honestly, the Cup has injected a different energy into the traditionally forgettable first two months of the season. The NBA has done a great job making it feel meaningful in some way, and teams are playing harder in these games. A lot of people are still passing it off as a gimmick, but there is a different energy in the games. They aren't on random nights. They have dedicated Friday nights, with two featured games on Tuesdays.

The Cavs will be fine going forward. The 1996 Bulls lost to the expansion Raptors. The 1986 Celtics lost most of their games to sub-.500 teams. Did that hurt them?

Edit: I meant to reply to multiple comments, so jpzx jpzx this was not directed at your comment alone.
 
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David Aldridge has a really great chapter in the book about the history of the shot clock. Simmons touched on it in his book, but Aldridge does a deep dive. I've been bouncing around the book so far, and it's really great essays on everyone. Some rankings make no sense, but they had a formula. I wish Simmons had the energy (and not hundreds of millions of dollars not to do so) to update his pyramid, which had no formula.
 
The Kings lost to the Blazers?
It turns out the Kings need more than just Malik Monk back. They’re having an identity crisis and just don’t know how to put together a complete game. They won the boards, made more 3s, and (finally) held their opponents to under 40% from the arc…but they had 20 turnovers, gave up more 2nd chance points, and were (-30) in the paint.
 
It turns out the Kings need more than just Malik Monk back. They’re having an identity crisis and just don’t know how to put together a complete game. They won the boards, made more 3s, and (finally) held their opponents to under 40% from the arc…but they had 20 turnovers, gave up more 2nd chance points, and were (-30) in the paint.

I kinda feel like that 2023 Kings team was a bit of an anomaly. Bit of a down year for the west (#1 seed only had 53 wins, which is second-fewest since the merger). The teams were separated by four games. I just didn't think they'd go from 3-seed to one and done in one season.
 
I kinda feel like that 2023 Kings team was a bit of an anomaly. Bit of a down year for the west (#1 seed only had 53 wins, which is second-fewest since the merger). The teams were separated by four games. I just didn't think they'd go from 3-seed to one and done in one season.
2023 was a down year for the west. But I also didn’t think they’d be one and done. 48 wins in 2023. 46 wins last season, their best 2 season stretch since 05-06. For much of last season they dabbled in the 5th-6th seed until Monk and Huerter were lost to injury the final few weeks. Everything bottomed out from there. The other thing that changed was their style of play. They played mostly loose and fast basketball, which was frustrating at times. But then they switched a more defensive approach after the ASG. They went from bottom 10 to top 10 defensively, but no playoff appearance. They’re trying to be a defense first team, but they really don’t have the personnel for that, Fox led the league in steals last year and Keon Ellis is disruptive with his hands. Aside from those two Mike Brown is asking everyone else to play a style that doesn’t fit who they are. Either the roster has to change, or coaching does.
 
He's had plenty lately but they hide those tapes

His Lakers run is a bubble chip, a cup chip, playing like 55-60% of the games and getting his son in the game for 5 minutes. A statistical wonder but legacy wise it’s a meh.

It’s absolutely amazing to me Lakers don’t get another big for some easy assists and to take some pressure off Davis. Absolutely wild. Nope they go for more wing men who can’t shoot and more guards to do sprints.
 
2023 was a down year for the west. But I also didn’t think they’d be one and done. 48 wins in 2023. 46 wins last season, their best 2 season stretch since 05-06. For much of last season they dabbled in the 5th-6th seed until Monk and Huerter were lost to injury the final few weeks. Everything bottomed out from there. The other thing that changed was their style of play. They played mostly loose and fast basketball, which was frustrating at times. But then they switched a more defensive approach after the ASG. They went from bottom 10 to top 10 defensively, but no playoff appearance. They’re trying to be a defense first team, but they really don’t have the personnel for that, Fox led the league in steals last year and Keon Ellis is disruptive with his hands. Aside from those two Mike Brown is asking everyone else to play a style that doesn’t fit who they are. Either the roster has to change, or coaching does.

The days of the west worst win record being in the mid to high 40s are over for now. There were two seasons (2008 and 2010) where 50 was the 8th seed, and then there was the year Phoenix missed at 49 wins due to tie breakers to another 49-win team. Don't abandon what got you there.
 
I Legit Don’t Find The NBA Enjoyable.

And The NBA Cup…Whats The Point Or Why Should Fans Care?
Agree. Unless, you are a die hard, the NBA season is turning into baseball. They trying to make the reg season relevant again. Why should the fans care if players and teams don't take the reg serious. Almost every team makes the playoffs or are in contention with play ins.

The cup is pointless. Make it an automatic home court playoff spot or something. Prize money isn't big enough with how much these players make.


NBA has a problem with the aging stars close to retiring.
 
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