--- THE OFFICIAL NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS REGULAR SEASON THREAD --- Collins Traded. New Poll

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  1. Yes - and the return is fair

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  2. Yes - but the return is low

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  3. No

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  4. F$%# Collins

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  1. DeadsetAce

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    was a pretty solid season, all things considered. team dealt with a ton of injuries and still made it to the AFCCG. but it's time to start looking at gearing up for the next year and filling holes and strengthening this roster.

    list of our FA's:





    post up your thoughts on the season, areas we need to address in the draft/FA, players you'd like to see go/stay/come, etc. etc.
     
  2. DeadsetAce

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    of that FA list, the guy's i'd like back:

    James Develin - our running game really lacked that "power" feel. once he went down...we had no ability to bang out short yardage plays on the ground when we had to have them. he's key for our run game

    Ebner and King - key special teams guys. Slater can't do it alone. these guys are pretty crucial for us there

    Wendell - we felt his loss pretty heavily this year. good veteran presence on the line when he's healthy.

    those are the must haves for me. i'm sure guys like Rufus Johnson, Tyms, Gibson, Fletcher will get heavy consideration as well
     
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  3. DeadsetAce

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    Current contract situation....

    Signed through 2015 (FA's at the end of this year):
    LeGarrette Blount
    Josh Boyce (ERFA)
    Tarell Brown
    Justin Coleman (ERFA)
    James Develin (RFA)
    Nate Ebner
    Cameron Fleming (ERFA)
    Dane Fletcher
    Brandon Gibson
    Akiem Hicks
    Steven Jackson
    Rufus Johnson (ERFA)
    Brandon King (ERFA)
    Sealver Siliga
    Brian Tyms (RFA)
    LaAdrian Waddle (RFA)
    Dekoda Watson
    Tavon Wilson
    Ryan Wendell

    Practice Squad (eligible to sign future contracts):
    Montee Ball
    Chris Barker
    DeAndre Carter
    Joey Iosefa
    Rashaan Melvin
    Keavon Milton
    Cedric Thompson
    Brock Vereen
    J.J. Worton

    Signed through 2016:
    Brandon Bolden
    Jon Bostic
    Alan Branch
    Malcolm Butler (RFA)
    Marcus Cannon
    Scott Chandler
    Jamie Collins
    Aaron Dobson
    Darius Fleming
    Jonathan Freeny
    Duron Harmon
    Chris Harper
    Dont'a Hightower
    Kevin Hughes
    Leonard Johnson
    Chandler Jones
    Chris Jones
    Ishmaa’ily Kitchen
    Brandon LaFell
    Eric Martin
    Keshawn Martin
    Rob Ninkovich
    Logan Ryan
    Jabaal Sheard
    Matthew Slater
    Kevin Snyder
    Sebastian Vollmer
    Michael Williams

    Signed through 2017:
    Danny Amendola
    David Andrews (RFA)
    Tom Brady
    Patrick Chung
    Dominique Easley (team option for 2018)
    Julian Edelman
    Tyler Gaffney
    Jimmy Garoppolo
    Josh Kline
    Dion Lewis
    Jerod Mayo (team options after 2015, 2016)
    Nate Solder
    Bryan Stork
    James White

    Signed through 2018:
    Ryan Allen
    Malcom Brown (team option for 2019)
    Joe Cardona
    A.J. Derby
    Trey Flowers
    Stephen Gostkowski
    Geneo Grissom
    Tre’ Jackson
    Shaq Mason
    Jordan Richards
    Darryl Roberts

    Signed through 2019:
    Rob Gronkowski (Patriots must pick up the final $6 million of his $10 million bonus this offseason)
    Devin McCourty
     
  4. ricerocket1

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    In for a long off season. I work in SF, i wish it was the pats instead of the broncos, but that is life. looking forward to next year.
     
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  6. DeadsetAce

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    :nthat:


    he'll be back for next season
     
  7. mikejs210

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    TL;DL = Disappointing loss, still a great season overall and looking forward to next season.

    I'll start with my thoughts on the season:

    As already pointed out, 2015 really felt like the tale of two seasons; the 10-0 run and then the 2-4 finish. Injuries hit this team hard, but they were still able to get to the AFCCG. The losses to Philadelphia and Miami ended up being huge and while injuries had a lot to do with those games, both were very winnable and I think BB deserves some criticism for how those games played out. I give Denver all the credit in the world for how they played and getting that W, but in Foxboro, I feel like the game plays out a little differently. Their pass rush and our offensive line would have still been an issue, but home field advantage makes a difference in games like that.

    After winning last year's Super Bowl, especially with Trent Dilfer's, "They just aren't good anymore." line and the controversy that arose from the Colts game, it was awesome to see another great season from Brady. Most didn't expect to see a falloff, but for him to look as good as ever was awesome; we need to enjoy these last few years and not take it for granted.

    I don't think that this loss hurts Brady's overall legacy or puts Peyton ahead of Brady in the grand scheme of things. Yes, Brady threw two interceptions yesterday, but those last plays to convert on 4th down to Gronk and then again with the TD to Gronk to bring them within a two point conversion of tying the game just goes to show how much fight this dude has. That's my QB.

    The growth of Malcolm Butler has been a joy to see. We lost our top 4 CBs and roll out Butler as our starting CB and he stepped up to the challenge and developed into a legit CB and a Pro Bowl CB at that. This dude doesn't ever give up and comes back scrapping even after giving up a long pass. He's usually always in position, but his height seems to be a problem vs. taller/longer WRs sometimes. He gets another off season to develop now and I'm excited to see where his game goes from here.

    Collins & Hightower are beasts and we need to lock them up long term. They were both such huge parts of the success of this defense. While Collins did get burnt on a couple of plays yesterday, he still had the two sacks and 8 total tackles; it seemed like he was a part of any play that ended up getting stuffed or a for a loss.

    Chandler Jones only gets half a bar...Nah, but he was ghost from yesterday's game and that's a problem. I've seen you call him out DSA and he rarely steps up and answers that call. He has a ton of talent, but I'd like to see some more consistency out of him.

    I'm still taking Gostkowski for a game winning or game tying FG any game of the week.

    Is Dion Lewis coming back? If so, do we need to add some depth behind him or roll him and Blount out there again? It seemed like that duo worked just fine during the 10-0 run and I saw people mentioning that our lack of a run game hurt us vs. Denver's pass rush. Lewis vs. those LBs would have been interesting to see.

    Is Logan Ryan our full time 2nd CB and if so, who are we putting behind him and Butler?

    Offensive line :x :{ This needs to be addressed immediately IMO. Cannon might as not have even been out there. I understand that Vollmer has been playing out of position due to injuries, but he was getting torched as well.

    I think WR should be addressed, but I don't know what BB will do there. I don't think he's bringing in a big name and he's not going to overpay for anyone, which is good, but LaFell wasn't cutting it this year. If he was dealing with injuries, that's fine, but I feel like they need one more big WR out there.

    Overall, anything short of a Super Bowl win is always disappointing, but I'll take this L, be proud of what was accomplished, be optimistic that this squad is only going to get better, prepare for whatever Goodell has in store to slander this team and move on to 2016.
     
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  8. DeadsetAce

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    ^ good stuff, @mikejs210


    totally agree on Butler, Hightower, and Collins. add in McCourty and that's a great core to build around. Malcolm Brown had a very good year in the middle of the DL. lot to be excited about as these guys all got another year under their belts. we really need to get that DOMINANT edge rusher. Jones and Sheard both had their moments, like you said, not consistent enough. especially Chandler.


    Dion Lewis will for sure be back. he's signed and will definitely be in the mix. i'm actually OK parting ways with Blount unless he comes really cheap. he's nice to have and all, and maybe this is me focusing on his work post-Develin injury, but i felt like he just wasted too many downs running right into the back our worthless run blocking OL. not all his fault for sure, but if we have to pay him a fair amount, rather find someone with a little more explosiveness. i really do miss Ridley...loved how he ran for us. wish he could control his fumblitis though.
     
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    Dion Lewis would have made those catches deep yesterday. Another one that hurts? Vereen. He was a beast playing as a pass catching RB, we really missed him.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they made a run at Calvin Johnson if he became available. Could be another Moss-type rebirth.
     
  10. rolaholic

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    Wow definitely didn't expect this :eek :eek

    Guess someone had to take the fall :\

    A healthy Lewis was even better and offered more than Vereen did imo. His loss can't be understated,James White ain't it :lol.

    Also hope you're right about Megatron or another WR like that like Fitz. Getting a legit no.1 like that would open up so many different options on offense instead of always having to rely on Jules,Dola and Gronk which can get taxing on them healthwise over the course of the season.
     
  11. DeadsetAce

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    i would be surprised if Bill's cheap *** made a serious play for CJ81 :lol

    don't get me wrong, i wouldn't mind it. but i just don't see Bill opening the wallet for it. same with any of the top WRs on the market. they'll bring in a solid #2 or #3 guy most likely. and that guy will probably get cut during training camp :rollin




    as for the tubbo coach we cut loose today, good riddance. dude was a bum anyway. get a real OL coach in there.
     
  12. mikejs210

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    I saw Mohammed Sanu's name get brought up.
     
  13. DeadsetAce

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    ^ yeah that's the type of player i expect them to chase :lol


    i'd rather bank on JoJo coming back strong and drafting a WR and/or TE, to be honest
     
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    I'm a Sanu fan,that'd be a good fit.

    Also wouldn't mind taking a shot at Harvin if he ends up getting cut by Buffalo 8o

    This makes me get even more pissed about not taking advantage of 2 of the deepest drafts at WR in recent memory...:lol [​IMG]
     
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  15. DeadsetAce

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    seriously, man. so much talent we just ignored :{
     
  16. rolaholic

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    It especially hurts when I see Seattle and Minny getting studs like Lockett and Diggs in the 3rd and 5th rounds last year :x,imagine a talented young WR added to this offense...
     
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    damn...that makes me feel like **** when i think about guys like lockett and digs :lol
     
  19. macbk

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    Why do they throw Dion Lewis out there essentially on WR routes? Just keep him in that Sproles role :lol .
     
  20. mikejs210

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    I think in general, when they spread White, Bolden or Lewis out wide, it's to try to get a match-up vs. a linebacker which they view as favorable. I believe Brady targeted James White 16 times vs. Denver :x and a few of those were long passes that weren't close to being completed including one INT. It seemed like White's 1 route that worked was a slant across the middle.