Hey Duke4005 and mt3130. I was wondering if either of you have tried the lightning creators? I loved the in-depths on the commanders and picked those up andhave been using those since. I was thinking of the lightning creators or maybe the huarache 09's but wanted to see if either of you guys have any opinionsabout the shoe. Like the lightning creators over the first creators because I prefer the nubuck over the patent leather. I always swing towards nubuck uppers because I feelit gives a little more flexibility up top. Tried the huarache 09's and the zoom feels great but the whole nike quality thing... bleh. Not this shoe inparticular (hopefully), but the whole nike/jordan quality issues. Trust both of your judgements... thanks in advance.