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Tyler Perry is pathetic
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chi ill
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What does Tyler Perry owe anyone ?
I'm not saying she owes me %#$% ... but I just don't like her ...she really doesn't care , she plays that role on TV though .
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why you so hostile towards me? i never did anything to you...
he doesn't owe us anything either but since we are his target audience its in his best interest to stay on our good side don't cha think?
he doesn't owe us anything either but since we are his target audience its in his best interest to stay on our good side don't cha think?
chi ill
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Because you stay saying sly stuff for nooooo reason ... like damn , I see everything you say about me .
But who was Oprah's target audience when she first came out ?
It wasn't Middle-aged White women solely that's for sure ...
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i don't even talk about you...
do i think you could fall back sometimes...sure...but i don't have anything against you...why would i say slick @$%% if you can see it?
it doesnt matter who her audience was when she first dropped...its def. white women now...
it would have been nice if she could have given to chicago schools but she didn't and yet she still helped black females somewhere...
i don't agree or disagree that she's a sellout...i never really thought about it...but the school thing wasn't a good reasonIMO...which you probably don't care about...
i apologize if you feel i was comin at you at anytime...seriously...
i meant to say it wasn't a good reason...
do i think you could fall back sometimes...sure...but i don't have anything against you...why would i say slick @$%% if you can see it?
it doesnt matter who her audience was when she first dropped...its def. white women now...
it would have been nice if she could have given to chicago schools but she didn't and yet she still helped black females somewhere...
i don't agree or disagree that she's a sellout...i never really thought about it...but the school thing wasn't a good reasonIMO...which you probably don't care about...
i apologize if you feel i was comin at you at anytime...seriously...
i meant to say it wasn't a good reason...
chi ill
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Originally Posted by Master Zik
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Oh , it's ok .Originally Posted by mytmouse76
i don't even talk about you...
do i think you could fall back sometimes...sure...but i don't have anything against you...why would i say slick @$%% if you can see it?
it doesnt matter who her audience was when she first dropped...its def. white women now...
it would have been nice if she could have given to chicago schools but she didn't and yet she still helped black females somewhere...
i don't agree or disagree that she's a sellout...i never really thought about it...but the school thing was a good reason IMO...which you probably don't care about...
i apologize if you feel i was comin at you at anytime...seriously...
All good .
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has anybody told her that nobody likes her?
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oprah doesnt perpetuate negative stereotypes through characters she creates.......
perry has creative control and still chooses to represent his culture in that fashion....
regardless of who's pretending to care or who's giving money to schools....iight?
if anything, oprah is giving a positive image of african americans.......
ya'll are really silly.
perry has creative control and still chooses to represent his culture in that fashion....
regardless of who's pretending to care or who's giving money to schools....iight?
if anything, oprah is giving a positive image of african americans.......
ya'll are really silly.
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eNPHAN, I wasn't disputing the fact that Tyler "shucks and jives." I was just laughing at the wordchoice.
And
at Oprah being a sellout. I'm definitely not touching that with a ten-foot pole.
Everybody that's defending Mr. Perry...why can't you see what's right in front of your eyes? Let'sexamine this more closely:
He used to be homeless. Ok.
He started his own company. Great.
He is now the owner of one of the most successful black media outlets in the country. Awesome.
No one here is disputing the fact that what he accomplished is something to to admire. What me, eNPHAN, and others aresaying is his PRODUCT is what sucks. Of course that is a matter of opinion, because some of ya'll said ya'll actually like that crap...but to defend itby saying it's realistic is BANANAS. My grandma doesn't carry a pistol. Not damn near every member of my family is wrapped up in some love trianglelittered with illegitimate children and diseases. And we definitely have some people in our family in jail, but not to the extreme that is displayed in TylerPerry's minstel-shows plays and movies.
I could be the world's most successful black drug dealer, helping millions of your family members, friends andassociates get access to that almighty crack rock on a daily basis. In doing so, I could chip away at the image of black men little by little, because peoplewill associate successful black men with drugs (like that hasn't been done already). Everyone knows what drugs does to people, but because I'mfinancially successful - or in other words, I'm getting that [color= rgb(0, 255, 0)]$$$[/color] - it's cool,right?
My analogy sucked, but you'd be an idiot not to see my point. And to think that a few of ya'll called this"self-hating." Wanting Tyler Perry to have better material for his movies/plays is "self-hating?" What part of the game is that?
And
Everybody that's defending Mr. Perry...why can't you see what's right in front of your eyes? Let'sexamine this more closely:
He used to be homeless. Ok.
He started his own company. Great.
He is now the owner of one of the most successful black media outlets in the country. Awesome.
No one here is disputing the fact that what he accomplished is something to to admire. What me, eNPHAN, and others aresaying is his PRODUCT is what sucks. Of course that is a matter of opinion, because some of ya'll said ya'll actually like that crap...but to defend itby saying it's realistic is BANANAS. My grandma doesn't carry a pistol. Not damn near every member of my family is wrapped up in some love trianglelittered with illegitimate children and diseases. And we definitely have some people in our family in jail, but not to the extreme that is displayed in TylerPerry's minstel-shows plays and movies.
I could be the world's most successful black drug dealer, helping millions of your family members, friends andassociates get access to that almighty crack rock on a daily basis. In doing so, I could chip away at the image of black men little by little, because peoplewill associate successful black men with drugs (like that hasn't been done already). Everyone knows what drugs does to people, but because I'mfinancially successful - or in other words, I'm getting that [color= rgb(0, 255, 0)]$$$[/color] - it's cool,right?
My analogy sucked, but you'd be an idiot not to see my point. And to think that a few of ya'll called this"self-hating." Wanting Tyler Perry to have better material for his movies/plays is "self-hating?" What part of the game is that?
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^Wut?
If you reallly think Tyler Perry is a sellout I don't know what to tell ya, do I know a gun toting grandma? Nobody does, because it is a movie, ifya'll are that affected by dudes movies than make your own, If somebody talks about how they liked one of his trash movies I LoL and keep it moving, Curbyour enthusiasm has every negative Jewish stereotype known to man and it is hilarious, come on the point of this thread is directed AT perry, and people havealready denied his success saying he got lucky
...... You think he enforces stereotypes, I say he battles them, for every crackhead he has about 10professionals, in why did I get married every couple had bank, name me a film where every black couple was rich aside from that one.
If you reallly think Tyler Perry is a sellout I don't know what to tell ya, do I know a gun toting grandma? Nobody does, because it is a movie, ifya'll are that affected by dudes movies than make your own, If somebody talks about how they liked one of his trash movies I LoL and keep it moving, Curbyour enthusiasm has every negative Jewish stereotype known to man and it is hilarious, come on the point of this thread is directed AT perry, and people havealready denied his success saying he got lucky
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I think we can all agree to disagree. And I never said he was a sellout...I don't think.
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No one here is disputing the fact that what he accomplished is something to to admire. What me, eNPHAN, and others are saying is his PRODUCT is what sucks. Of course that is a matter of opinion, because some of ya'll said ya'll actually like that crap...but to defend it by saying it's realistic is BANANAS. My grandma doesn't carry a pistol. Not damn near every member of my family is wrapped up in some love triangle littered with illegitimate children and diseases. And we definitely have some people in our family in jail, but not to the extreme that is displayed in Tyler Perry's minstel-shows plays and movies.
the only thing about this line of reasoning is, the Madea plays are clearly intended to be funny in order to attract his intended audience to view theseplays/films and hopefully catch some of the important themes and messages he puts into his plays. Of course not every grandma carries pistols (I know a fewthat do tho) but there are families like that out there believe it ornot. A lot of families. But I think he is reaching the demographics he is trying to reach. He has plays about domestic violence, helping loved ones recoverfrom drug abuse, etc. Yeah it's a little ignant
but that'swhat his core audience likes, and hopefully they are able to pick up on one of the messages that he has hidden into his plays.
Also by "branding" his name, starting with the very simple plays, he has attracted people to his movies that are a LOT more complex and layered. Forexample "The Family That Preys" is an excellent film and can in no way be viewed as a minstrel show.
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my dude? don't you...ahh nevermind.Originally Posted by IM A HELION
eNPHAN, I wasn't disputing the fact that Tyler "shucks and jives." I was just laughing at the word choice.
Andat Oprah being a sellout. I'm definitely not touching that with a ten-foot pole.
Everybody that's defending Mr. Perry...why can't you see what's right in front of your eyes? Let's examine this more closely:
He used to be homeless. Ok.
He started his own company. Great.
He is now the owner of one of the most successful black media outlets in the country. Awesome.
No one here is disputing the fact that what he accomplished is something to to admire. What me, eNPHAN, and others are saying is his PRODUCT is what sucks. Of course that is a matter of opinion, because some of ya'll said ya'll actually like that crap...but to defend it by saying it's realistic is BANANAS. My grandma doesn't carry a pistol. Not damn near every member of my family is wrapped up in some love triangle littered with illegitimate children and diseases. And we definitely have some people in our family in jail, but not to the extreme that is displayed in Tyler Perry's minstel-shows plays and movies.
I could be the world's most successful black drug dealer, helping millions of your family members, friends and associates get access to that almighty crack rock on a daily basis. In doing so, I could chip away at the image of black men little by little, because people will associate successful black men with drugs (like that hasn't been done already). Everyone knows what drugs does to people, but because I'm financially successful - or in other words, I'm getting that [color= rgb(0, 255, 0)]$$$[/color] - it's cool, right?
My analogy sucked, but you'd be an idiot not to see my point. And to think that a few of ya'll called this "self-hating." Wanting Tyler Perry to have better material for his movies/plays is "self-hating?" What part of the game is that?
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why stop what is profitable?
why stop sweat shops in asia? they're profitable...
why stop the inhumane treatment of animals raised to be eaten? they're profitable
why help the HIV/AIDS victims in africa? that's not profitable...
Why stop selling crack in the hood? it's profitable...
this isn't an argument about selling out, profits, smart business savvy or anything like that...
my argument is that his products perpetuate negative stereotypes...period
the very same stereotypes 99 percent of black people cry about having labeled to them as an individual...
you so concerned with prejudice and injustice when it's actually happening, but when someone actually pinpoints one of the factors responsible thatprejudice, yall wanna ignore it or downplay it.....
y'all can ignore negative images of black people in media (black-owned or otherwise) if you want to....
but don't sit there wondering why our people aren't equal in this country.....don't sit there wondering why the cops and people stay harrassing youand are suspicious and afraid of you....don't sit there wondering why people "assume" things about you, etc. and so on and so forth
cause im telling you, these images are much more powerful than yall wanna admit...
(kix, okay, theres a fam that owns a bank. awesome. now, from the previews, do i know that? no. from the previews i know about the loud, obnoxious outbursts.the images taken from his advertisements dont scream "intelligent" or "uplifting" at all......why even include those images in the firstplace? cause it sells? right. He could have 1000 bankers and doctors, but at the end of the day, what images are most prevalent and stick? i don't hearanyone talking about Dr. so and so in tyler perry's new play, do i? no, we hear about the Madeas and the Browns and how ridiculous they've"acted", etc. which is perfectly fine, as long as it stays contained within a black audience where it's context is understood.)
why stop sweat shops in asia? they're profitable...
why stop the inhumane treatment of animals raised to be eaten? they're profitable
why help the HIV/AIDS victims in africa? that's not profitable...
Why stop selling crack in the hood? it's profitable...
this isn't an argument about selling out, profits, smart business savvy or anything like that...
my argument is that his products perpetuate negative stereotypes...period
the very same stereotypes 99 percent of black people cry about having labeled to them as an individual...
you so concerned with prejudice and injustice when it's actually happening, but when someone actually pinpoints one of the factors responsible thatprejudice, yall wanna ignore it or downplay it.....
y'all can ignore negative images of black people in media (black-owned or otherwise) if you want to....
but don't sit there wondering why our people aren't equal in this country.....don't sit there wondering why the cops and people stay harrassing youand are suspicious and afraid of you....don't sit there wondering why people "assume" things about you, etc. and so on and so forth
cause im telling you, these images are much more powerful than yall wanna admit...
(kix, okay, theres a fam that owns a bank. awesome. now, from the previews, do i know that? no. from the previews i know about the loud, obnoxious outbursts.the images taken from his advertisements dont scream "intelligent" or "uplifting" at all......why even include those images in the firstplace? cause it sells? right. He could have 1000 bankers and doctors, but at the end of the day, what images are most prevalent and stick? i don't hearanyone talking about Dr. so and so in tyler perry's new play, do i? no, we hear about the Madeas and the Browns and how ridiculous they've"acted", etc. which is perfectly fine, as long as it stays contained within a black audience where it's context is understood.)
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