Vaping is killin’ em??

Not surprised.

I've heard so many folks saying vaping is safe because there is no real smoke...but where do you think all that smoke you're exhaling comes from and how is it made?

Can anyone clue me in on that? I'm not with the times.

For starters it’s vapor not smoke and you are not actually inhaling or burning tobacco or any of the other added chemicals.
 
What's preventing you from just quitting altogether?

Easier said then done. The one big downfall is the high nicotine levels in Juul pods. While I’m definitely healthier then I was smoking cigs the nicotine will be awfully tuff to stop cold turkey at this point.

I have been working on cutting back, but if I can no longer get the pods I use the nicotine withdraws will be a nightmare.
 
Easier said then done. The one big downfall is the high nicotine levels in Juul pods. While I’m definitely healthier then I was smoking cigs the nicotine will be awfully tuff to stop cold turkey at this point.

I have been working on cutting back, but if I can no longer get the pods I use the nicotine withdraws will be a nightmare.

you'll still have juul pods.. just tobacco flavors.
 
Easier said then done. The one big downfall is the high nicotine levels in Juul pods. While I’m definitely healthier then I was smoking cigs the nicotine will be awfully tuff to stop cold turkey at this point.

I have been working on cutting back, but if I can no longer get the pods I use the nicotine withdraws will be a nightmare.

No doubt. It's not easy. I smoked from when I was 16-22. Highly addictive personality to boot. If I can do it, you probably can too.
 
Picked up a stiiizy disposable from my boy, fake or not this **** smacks. 2-3 hits and it’s like I smoked a blunt dolo.
 
Picked up a stiiizy disposable from my boy, fake or not this **** smacks. 2-3 hits and it’s like I smoked a blunt dolo.

Lots of folk tell me their oil pen hits amazing and works well. Then I’ll give em my wax pen and they’re straight on stupid. Wax hits harder thus you need less at a time and is straight weed extract Oil is already a cut product so I never understood the draw to it.
 
Only time I've tried vaping is when I couldnt burn one this one time. Vaping is to bud what crack is to cocaine, stay away you dont know what's in it unless you chef it yourself.
 
Lots of folk tell me their oil pen hits amazing and works well. Then I’ll give em my wax pen and they’re straight on stupid. Wax hits harder thus you need less at a time and is straight weed extract Oil is already a cut product so I never understood the draw to it.

They don’t know.
 
Lots of folk tell me their oil pen hits amazing and works well. Then I’ll give em my wax pen and they’re straight on stupid. Wax hits harder thus you need less at a time and is straight weed extract Oil is already a cut product so I never understood the draw to it.

I have that also but not a wax pen just a dab rig. Haven’t found a pen or vaporizer that gives me the full flavor of my concentrates like a rig does.
 
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wisconsin...-illegal-thc-vape-cartridge/story?id=65558903
Authorities in Wisconsin are investigating whether a large-scale operation by two brothers allegedly making illegal THC-infused vape cartridges could be connected to recent vaping-related illnesses and deaths across the country.

Tyler Huffhines, 20, and Jacob Huffhines, 23, were arrested on Sept. 5 after authorities conducted various search warrants on their family's home in Paddock Lake and a rented condominium in Bristol, both villages of Kenosha County. Investigators believe the younger brother was the "ringleader" of what they say was the "sophisticated" drug operation and the condo was its headquarters, according to Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth.

At the Paddock Lake residence, where the brothers live, $59,000 in cash, guns, drugs and drug paraphernalia was found, according to authorities. But that was just the "tip of the iceberg" in their alleged "empire of illegal drugs," Beth said.

It was the raid at the condo, which was rented under a fake name, that netted 31,200 vape cartridges in the condo, each filled with 1 gram of liquid THC -- the main psychoactive component of cannabis -- and ready to be distributed, according to Beth. There were also 98,000 empty vape cartridges and 57 mason jars filled with liquid THC, with the contents of each jar valued at approximately $6,000, as well as three money-counting machines and 18 pounds of marijuana, Beth added.

"This is a major, major operation," the sheriff said at a joint press conference with other law enforcement agencies on Wednesday.


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Kenosha County Sheriffs Department
Investigators believe Tyler Huffhines, who allegedly started the operation in January 2018, hired several employees to fill the vape cartridges with liquid THC and package them in brightly-colored wrappers, mimicking candy with names like "Sour Patch." The back of the packaging states the product contains a very small amount of THC, about 5 mg, when in reality it's 1,000 mg, Beth said.

"It looks like candy," he told reporters. "It's not candy. It's highly potent drugs."

The investigation into the alleged operation started this summer after the parents of a high school boy in Waukesha found THC vape cartridges on their their son and brought him to the police station, providing information that was ultimately traced back to the Huffhines brothers, officials said.

“These parents were courageous for what they did,” Waukesha County Police Captain Dan Baumann said at Wednesday's press conference. “They should be commended.”

Tyler Huffhines was being held in the Kenosha County Jail on a $500,000 cash bond, according to Milwaukee ABC station WISN. He faces several drug-related felony charges. He was scheduled to appear in court Friday.

Jacob Huffhines was being held in the Kenosha County Jail without bond on charges of cocaine possession, possession of a firearm by a felon and violating probation.

Formal charges have not yet been filed, according to WISN. It was unclear whether the brothers have obtained attorneys.

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Investigators are "actively searching" for others involved in the alleged drug ring, and there may be more arrests, according to Beth. Authorities in Kenosha County are also "willing to work with any agency in this country" to determine whether the Huffhines brothers and other members of the community "have any responsibility in hurting the hundreds of people throughout the United States, especially Wisconsin," the sheriff said.

Earlier this week, the Kansas Department of Health and Environment confirmed the first death in the state from a vaping-related lung disease, bringing the nationwide total to six.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had previously confirmed five deaths from a vaping-related lung disease across five states: California, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota and Oregon. The agency also said it is aware of over 450 possible cases of vaping-related illnesses in 33 states and one U.S. territory.

There is no specific vaping device or chemical that have been linked to all the cases, but the CDC reports that a majority of the patients are male, between the ages of 18 and 35, and admit to using nicotine, THC (the main active component in cannabis), or both, about 90 days before experiencing symptoms, which include shortness of breath, gastrointestinal issues, fever and fatigue.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration is investigating at least 127 reports of people suffering seizures or other neurological symptoms after using e-cigarettes. All of the reported cases occurred between 2010 and 2019, and many involved youth and young adults. It remains unclear whether there's a direct link between vaping and the reported cases of neurological events, according to the federal agency.
 
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so is least damaging way on your body to get high/use cbd via tinctures/drops?
all this time I thought technology has gone a long way that vaping and all these pen contraptions were the way to go.

problem with the drops as someone mentioned is they take a long time and you need a lot of it, although it depends on the content im sure.
 
so, what, like 6 people die off some garbage off brand thc oil cartridges and now an entire industry is being eliminated?

how many people died from guns last year?

imagine

I was about to type something like this. Everything in this country is backwards as @#$#.

I don't smoke, but people are acting like THIS is a huge priority???? Ban e-cigs but not white supremacists? guns? hard drugs? predatory practices by landlords?

In the Bay Area, SF is going to war with Juul, while fiends and mentally ill have been running rampant all over the city for the past few years. People are still allowed to shoot up and deal at damn near every BART stop at the city, but no, Juul is the problem :stoneface: .
 
How about regular cigarettes too? They're actually medically proven to harm people that smoke them AND the people around the smoke.
 
How about regular cigarettes too? They're actually medically proven to harm people that smoke them AND the people around the smoke.

Would never happen. This whole "public health emergency" is a huge distraction from real issues/behind the scenes manipulation by the tobacco industry.

I'd rather have people smoke/vape everywhere than have to dodge syringes and @#$@ that fiends leave all over the place during my work commute.

People smoke all the time in Japan yet outlive Americans due to an overall healthier lifestyle and better healthcare system. How about we focus on promoting those? No?
 
How about regular cigarettes too? They're actually medically proven to harm people that smoke them AND the people around the smoke.

ain't gon happen. cigarettes / big tobacco are like the NRA to United States.
 
I made a separate thread before i knew this one existed.

I personally work at a vape shop here in NJ. Been open for 5 years and have been very successful in our lines (blue freeze) and our own products(Killswitch 510 batteries) we sell. Before vaping, I was a pack or so a day of Marlboro Menthols, occasional Newports. Still have a cig every now and again but have not bought a pack in over 4 years.
Wanted to read some opinions of other NTers who have made that switch and if any of yall that do vape, did yall smoke cigs before or vaping now as a trend.
There has been alot of noise about our industry. New Jersey alone is considering a full vape ban along with New York that has banned all flavors outside Menthol and Tobaccoo
Shame, it was all bootleg THC carts that have vitamin e acetate in them as a thickening agent. once thats in your lungs, it solidifies.
 
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