Washington Wizards 2016-2017 Season Thread - Thanks for a great season!

Discussion in 'Sports & Training' started by Methodical Management, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. Best year ever: over 60 wins

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  2. Best finish in a generation: between 50 and 60 wins

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  3. A winning season, barely: 43-49 wins

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  4. A losing season: 42-30 wins

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  5. A total disaster, under 30 wins

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  1. Sonny Corinthos

    Sonny Corinthos formerly joeclear

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    post the link , I need a good laugh
     
  2. Methodical Management

    Methodical Management Administrator Staff Member Co-Founder

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...c11eb8-a118-11e6-8832-23a007c77bb4_story.html
    I think we should tell Ted what MJ told his predecessor, who whined about losing money during the '98 lockout:  

    "Sell YOUR team." 

    This is what's wrong with the NBA and its anti-trust exemption.  Incompetent owners want guaranteed profits - and they want the public to pay for it.  If this were any other field, Ted would be out of business.  If this were soccer, the Wizards would be a D-League team and we'd have some other nearby franchise that had earned the right to play in the NBA through competent management. 

    It is awful that, because of the NBA cartel and its regional monopolies, we are stuck with a dead weight, ballast franchise that exists only to enrich its owner and serve as schedule fodder for the rest of the league.  

    The DC Metro area has, for generations, developed some of the best basketball talent in the world.  This is a region that lives and breathes the game of basketball.  

    We deserve better than this trash franchise.  

    If you can't turn a profit in the NBA with its GENEROUS revenue sharing and immense TV deal, you don't deserve a franchise.  You're a detriment to the league and a detriment to the community you purportedly serve.  

    Sell your team.  The Clippers sold for $2 billion.  The Wizards are worth far less due to decades of incompetence, but any sale would yield an incredible and undeserved profit.  

    Can't stomach that?  Fine.  Move to Seattle.  I'll take my chances with an expansion team.  At least then we'd be guaranteed new ownership.
     
  3. jjs07

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    Yikes...

    Tax payers foot the bill, or we're moving. Am I understanding correctly?
     
  4. madj55

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    Yeah I've heard he's rumors of him wanting a new arena.

    Dumbest thing about his comments are that he owns the arena while the rest of the owners are more than likely just paying rent. You put yourself in this damn position. What a clown.
     
  5. Methodical Management

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    He didn't threaten to leave the entire area, but it's sort of implied that, while their "goal" is to stay in DC, they'll start casting a wider net if their demands aren't met:  
    John Oliver did a great segment on stadium funding last year, which I can't responsibly post here due to profanity.  

    I don't know of many actual DC residents who love the Nationals' stadium deal.  If you live in Virginia and like baseball, you don't care that it put the city $500 million in debt or seized a bunch of land through eminent domain.  

    The economic benefits of these stadiums tend to be wildly overstated, and it really comes down to a ransom demand for increasingly lavish forms of corporate welfare, lest a team leave town and anger sports fans who vote based on emotion.  It's awful.

    If American sports leagues are to benefit from anti-trust exemption, the least we could get in return should be basic consumer protection against the worst abuses of monopolistic business practices.  
     
  6. ROYGBiV

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    European Football Clubs>
     
  7. jesusshuttlesworth34

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    Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure


    New owner would be nice...one that cares about hoops. New GM would be Heavent Sent. I like the location of the Verizon Center. No issues there. I don't personally care what it cost the owner...that's the cost of doing business. He isn't broke.
     
  8. frshstunna

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    Ted bluffin, playing them owner games so he gets the public $$$ for a new arena :smh: ...if they leaving come back to Baltimore so I don't gotta make that drive :lol: :pimp:
     
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  10. mrtarheel

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    More excuses.... OKC was practicing in an old skating rink for the longest
     
  11. uncalled4boy

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    I Just Think This Season Is Going To Be So Bad. 41-41 Best Case Scenario :smh:
     
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  13. Methodical Management

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    These are the longest tenured GM's in the NBA:

    Pat Riley, started 6/18/1995, 12 division titles, 3 NBA championships.

    Mitch Kupchak, started 8/7/2000, 7 division titles, 4 NBA championships.

    RC Buford, started 7/1/2002, 9 division titles, 4 NBA championships.

    Danny Ainge, started 5/9/2003, 6 division titles, 1 NBA championship.

    Ernie Grunfeld, started 6/30/2003, 0 division titles, won a total of three playoff series.

    Larry Bird, started 7/11/2003, 3 division titles, reached conference finals three times.

    Donnie Nelson, started 3/19/2005, 2 division titles, 1 NBA championship.

    Daryl Morey, started 5/6/2007, 1 division title, reached conference finals.

    One of these things is not like the others...  
    That's another reason why this crybaby routine is so offensive:  the Wizards alone are not responsible for the arena costs.  The arena is shared by all Ted's teams, and any other event held there.

    If it's the "worst arena deal in pro sports," why hasn't he used it as an excuse for the Capitals inability to win a title?  Why are they competitive, in a league that generates less revenue, despite paying "$40 million a year in arena costs?"

    You're telling me that $36/square foot to own prime real estate in downtown DC, where prices have been rapidly escalating for years, is a liability? 

    He needs to get all the way out of here with that.
    That's correct.  

    No one should have any sympathy for Leonsis.  

    "Boo hoo hoo!  I pay $36 million a year to own, not lease, a ONE MILLION SQUARE FOOT facility in downtown Washington!"  Nobody asked you to buy the team or the building in the first place.  If you can't hack it, sell the team.  There are plenty of wealthy investors out there who would love to have this opportunity.  Step aside and give this long-suffering region the competently run franchise it so sorely deserves.  If you can't successfully run a business that's propped up by taxpayers and safeguarded against competition thanks to a regional monopoly, you shouldn't be in business, period.  
    "A fantastic training facility, the best coaches" is this guy Donald Trump now?  He's delusional.

    Nobody outside of that front office believes that Scott Brooks and his staff are "the best coaches."  Scott Brooks doesn't believe that Scott Brooks is "the best coach."  If he's supremely confident, maybe he thinks he's top 10 - and that would be a huge stretch.

    This has been such a disgustingly tacky franchise.  Before the games, they appear to sell access to visiting players as they enter the court.  Just to get to the floor, you now have to run a selfie-stick gauntlet.  Who does that!?  You had to find a way to fleece visiting players as they walk 50 feet from the tunnel to the floor?  Affording them basic professional dignity is too much to ask?  Ted's got Verizon Center looking like Moron Mountain.



    What's next?  Sell streaming access to the visiting team's urinals on your "digital sports entertainment empire?"  

    You KNOW they'll be among the first to have ads on their jerseys, too. 

    I'd love to hear how that "$36 million a year in building expenses" was truly responsible for all the team's problems.  "We would've drafted Kawhi Leonard instead of Jan Vesely and signed him to an identical rookie scale contract as dictated by the CBA... but we couldn't because... we pay a mortgage?"  "Kevin Durant would've accepted our maximum contract offer instead of Golden State's, but he couldn't meet with us because.... we pay a mortgage?"  "I would've interviewed more than two head coaching candidates in all the years I owned the team... but I have to pay a mortgage?" 

    How does that work?
     
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  14. madj55

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    Damn. On point. Please run the team :lol:
     
  15. broncos19dm

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    Need a W tonight! 
     
  16. starboy

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    Satorasky has to be taller than 6'7. He has a good inch on Paul Milsap
     
  17. broncos19dm

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    Finally lol 
     
  18. staffsgtdignam

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    Found this on Reddit-a few Wizards facts so people can manage their expectations for this team:

    The Wizards have been mediocre so long that the last time we won our division:

    the Spurs, Rockets, and Jazz were in the East

    the Bulls, Pacers, and Bucks were in the West

    the Clippers were in San Diego

    the Jazz were in New Orleans

    the Kings were in Kansas City

    The Supersonics existed but 60% of our current division didn't (and Atlanta, the one other team that did, was in the other East division)

    Jimmy Carter was President

    Michael Jordan was in High School

    Lebron's mom was eleven
     
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  19. jjs07

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    Wall out tonight (part of the plan for him coming back from his surgeries) since it's a back-to-back. I think Sato is starting. I'm excited to see what he can do as far as running the offense. The team needs more than 8 points from the bench if they want a chance of winning tonight. Porter was close to invisible, so that aggressive version we saw a few days ago needs to make another appearance.
     
  20. jesusshuttlesworth34

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    "FO...FO....FO....."


    ONE

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    FO


     
  21. jjs07

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    This is where I'm at right now...

    Wall/Brooks = B+

    Morris = B

    Gortat/Sato = B-

    Porter = C+

    Beal = D

    Bench = F-

    Something has to give.

    The bench was crippling, yet again. Starters, minus Beal and sometimes Gortat, played well enough to get the win. In addition, I absolutely LOVED the ATO play Brooks drew up to get Morris the look from 3 to potentially win the game last night.

    With Grunfeld still in charge of the roster, I really don't know how else things will change from here on out. As I said before, something has to give.

    I wouldn't be shocked to see Brooks give some of the UDFAs some minutes just to see if any of them can provide a spark. I thought going into this year that the bench would be the best unit we've had here in DC during Wall's tenure. But what do I know? I'm just an arm-chair GM...apparently the real GM is too. :smh:
     
  22. jesusshuttlesworth34

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    Gortat's floating putback off the glass that rimmed out....he has been doing this his whole career. Just get the board and flush it big man. SMH.


    If I had a half smoke from Ben's for every time I've seen GorTHOT miss one of those bunnies.....Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh! :nerd:
     
  23. jjs07

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    Completely unacceptable. I'm really at a loss for words.
     
  24. extraordinary swag

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    We'll be lucky to win 30 games this year. This roster is atrocious and we have no leadership. Wall is great but him being great can't compensate for the rest of this team. I'm done after this season
     
  25. jesusshuttlesworth34

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    Wall has zero leadership abilities/qualities.....like nobody going harder for him like they would a Paul Pierce/Chris Paul/etc. He is good, but he won't be great until he can inspire greatness out of his teammates.