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I can only say Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Tony Parker and Chauncey Billups are clearly ahead of him.
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QFT.Originally Posted by you big dummy
Rondo is overrated imo. People get too caught up looking at stats instead of actual game play. He might put up nice numbers but he' not a leader and, besides the flagrant and technical fouls that weren't called on him, he's not an impact player either. Looking back on this year's playoff run, Rondo might have averaged a triple-double but that had little to no impact on the Celtics winning or losing any of their games. When the game was on the line Pierce, Allen, and Big Baby were the ones who stepped up carried the team.
Paul, D.Williams, Billups, Parker, Kidd, Nash, Moe Williams, Jameer Nelson, Derrick Rose, Andre Miller, Baron Davis, Arenas, Aaron Brooks are better team leaders and game managers than Rondo.
There's no way I can place him top 5 or even top 10 until he proves that he can lead his team better than anyone I just mentioned.
any talent that Steph still has at getting to the hoop and creating points is more than Rondos. If Rondo played on a team that wasnt so stacked with talent around him he would be exposed. He gets assists and rebounds off of his athletisism and dumping the ball to the wide variety of shooters lurking on the peremeter. and his only points come when the defense loses focus on him and he exlodes to the hoop for a lay in or a dunk.Originally Posted by THE GR8
you HONESTLY believe that...Steph's time has come and gone....he's a shell of his former self no matter what talent you may think he still has...
Originally Posted by QueenCitySneakerQueen
Not top 5 but definitely top 10
Originally Posted by imrichboy
no one has mentioned bibby, crawford, calderon. rondo needs to improve 3pt, FT shooting to be considered top 10 PG. Russell westbrook is a mini rondo clone.
I agree. If he practices his jump shot more this summer, then he'll get better even moreOriginally Posted by Lbruce89
i'd say he's top 10 right now
Originally Posted by bhzmafia14
Do many of you think Rondo would be where he is now if it wasn't for KG and Ray Allen coming aboard?
I don't think so. The guy was basically forced to become better and if it wasn't for them, I still think he would be mediocre. Sooner or later he would've reached the point he's at now, but it would've been probably another 3-5 years down the road. He doesn't always play with confidence especially when being guarded 15 feet out.
Put Mike Conley in Rondo's situation these past two years and he would probably be just as good if not better (since he actually improved his jumpshot this season). He probably wouldn't be better mainly because of Rondo's defense, but in terms of helping the team offensively probably so.
As for the thread:
Paul, Deron, Billups, Parker, Nash, Kidd, Harris, a healthy Arenas and Baron Davis are > Rondo IMO. I'm still debating on whether or not Rose is, but I would rather have Rose as my starting PG if I were starting a team so I guess that answers it. He's definitely top 10, just don't know exactly where I would rank him amongst those PG's when healthy. The fact that Rondo was able to be taught by 3 hall of famers day in and day out helped him grow a lot quicker than expected.
Originally Posted by Bigmike23
Originally Posted by bhzmafia14
Do many of you think Rondo would be where he is now if it wasn't for KG and Ray Allen coming aboard?
I don't think so. The guy was basically forced to become better and if it wasn't for them, I still think he would be mediocre. Sooner or later he would've reached the point he's at now, but it would've been probably another 3-5 years down the road. He doesn't always play with confidence especially when being guarded 15 feet out.
Put Mike Conley in Rondo's situation these past two years and he would probably be just as good if not better (since he actually improved his jumpshot this season). He probably wouldn't be better mainly because of Rondo's defense, but in terms of helping the team offensively probably so.
As for the thread:
Paul, Deron, Billups, Parker, Nash, Kidd, Harris, a healthy Arenas and Baron Davis are > Rondo IMO. I'm still debating on whether or not Rose is, but I would rather have Rose as my starting PG if I were starting a team so I guess that answers it. He's definitely top 10, just don't know exactly where I would rank him amongst those PG's when healthy. The fact that Rondo was able to be taught by 3 hall of famers day in and day out helped him grow a lot quicker than expected.
get the ##%! out of here with that trash