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Who's watching The Tonight Show w/ Leno TONIGHT? i think it's on right now for the east coast
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word. the whining is out of control on here.
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Team Coco... F' Leno
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Slurping? Lol is that what the 1st amendment is now adays?
I apologize for being one of the millions who favor Leno over Conan.
Truth is Conan's comedy isn't made for the tonight show, never was.
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So us picking Conan's side is considered hate, but you backing up Leno is the first amendment? Child please...
On the same token , you're condemning everyone in here for standing up for Conan... when it is clear as day that he get screwed over by nbc and Leno. You can't argue facts, and you can't argue that they only gave him 7 months and stuck him after a crap Leno variety show. Leno couldn't build half the following Conan has now in a short 2 months if you gave him a whole year.
@ the red part.... I'm sure many Johnny Carson fans thought Leno's comedy wasn't right for it either... during his first 7 months. Conan wasn't even given a chance.
Conan's heart is in comedy. Leno's isn't. That's all that matters.
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Child Please? Name calling and straw-man arguments huh
1. Where did I ever condemn anyone for standing up for Conan? I just find the hate on Leno amusing, seeing as though it's baseless. As proof within the reasons in this thread
2. Hate the game, not the playa: Leno gets ratings, and owes Conan nothing. Sheer numbers game, Leno wins.
3. Leno's comedy wasn't right for it at first either? que? Leno's been getting ratings since he replaced carson...(another reason why Letterman cries like a baby every time Leno's name pops up)
As far as the yellow part......what does that even mean? His heart is in it? that's all that matters? No that isn't what matters. The product is what matters, and at the end of the day, Jay moves units.
At the end of the day comedy is subjective, ratings aren't. Jay built up the tonight show, and was battering Letterman in the ratings like it was going out of style. NBC assumed the viewers would stay loyal to Jay AND the tonight show, instead the public choose neither. NBC was wrong, not Jay. I am sure Conan is crying with his 40 mill in LA somewhere.
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Bottom line is no one over 30 want to hear some dude constantly using some annoying accent in order to get laughs.
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Name calling? That's nowhere near name calling my man. You getting a little soft on me?
The hate on Leno absolutely is not baseless.... or did you completely miss the screwing over of Conan O'Brien?
@hate the game, not the player... no. I'll hate on Jay for sticking around with his "comedy hour" after he gave up the Tonight show. I'll hate on him for actively campaigning for his show knowing damned well he's kicking Conan off that 11:30 slot.
You right though, numbers are numbers and can't be argued.... and I never did. Conan's number's weren't great by any means, but you don't kick him out after 7 months when he was promised, ahem contracted a career with the show. That's a B move, and Jay had as much to do with it as NBC. Straight classless... but hey, he gets ratings right?
oh!!! so THAT's the bottom line then. How insightful
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Do people know what bottom line means? The bottom line is ratings = money. People under 30 don't watch Conan either apparently. He lost in almost every demographic
Screwing over O'Brien? So he changed his mind? Sue him. The inspiration for the beloved Jordans so many of us cop changed his mind and came back. People need to get over it, I am sure Conan has.
Seems to me that Lettermans smearing of Leno's image worked on some of you dimwits, cats really pulling straws trying to find validity to this entire "@@%* Leno" mentality. Also interesting how cats forgot the controversy Letterman was in as well.
And as far as the name calling goes, by all means call me a child, and whatever else you need to label, it just takes away the validity of the argument, and has nothing to do with anything we are talkng about.
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He didn't sue them, they settled. Oh, and Jordan coming back with his 45... not the same. no contracts were voided and and nobody got kicked off the team. You kinda reaching with that one.
And Letterman has nothing to do with anything I've been talking about.
In any case, I'm done for tonight. Say what you will, I've accepted there's no convincing you, I hope you do the same.
Later my man.
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conan > jay
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Guys, this is NT. Don't you know everyone's opinion is better than everyone else?
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TELEVISION[h1]The Chin Is In[/h1][h2]Leno returns to the Tonight Show …. sigh.[/h2]By Troy Patterson
Posted Tuesday, March 2, 2010, at 12:03 PM ET
The rebirth of the Tonight Show—its still-rebirth as sprung from the bullhead of an ungracious Jay Leno—began last night with an homage to
Actually: Was there a curtain? The program was insufficiently engaging to encourage a close consideration of the décor, and anyway, the sets of most NBC chat-show-type productions seem to have been conceptualized by the same committee of interior decorators. From the Bob Costas' dull Winter Olympics ski chalet to Conan's old not-all-that-bad New York studio, they slap a landscape backdrop behind the desk and some neutral-colored business-hotel-atrium furniture close by and then head home to apartments designed with far more personality. Leno delivered his monologue flanked by some wood paneling copied after a TV cabinet/armoire in one of those antiseptic business hotels. At the monologue's merciful conclusion, graphics teased an upcoming taped segment as "Jay Looks for a New Desk." This bit found Leno entering middle-class homes and joking on antique secretaries and so forth and also gently mocking his hosts on other grounds, at one point laughing at someone's bucket of KFC, as if his act were no less déclassé and highly processed. At the segment's merciful conclusion, Jay unveiled his real new desk, the tabletop of which looked, from a downward view, inescapably phallic, which is to say fittingly dickish.
Look, it gives me no pleasure to write that clause—to attack Leno not just as a performer but as a man—but there are in life some principles so worth standing up for that their violation necessitates the punishment of the violator. I don't hold it against Leno that Jeff Zucker and his management team—"the rat bastards at NBC," to use a phrase on David Letterman's lips last night—were so cowardly and inept as to create a debacle that left him its one winner. I don't even begrudge Leno his ambitions. What rankles is that, in his unwillingness to curb his uncontrolled greed for camera time, Leno was really, really uncool.
Last night, this uncoolness infected the first guest, Jamie Foxx, who capered onto and across stage cartoonishly, like Cuba Gooding Jr. winning a sweepstakes prize or Robin Williams on both coke and a jungle gym. But Foxx had no warmth or heat. And, shaking and spraying a bottle of Champagne, he wasted 750 milliliters of Moët.
The second guest was Olympic champion Lindsey Vonn. In his monologue, Leno had said of Vonn, "When it comes to going downhill, nobody's faster—except NBC." This was Leno pretending to bite the hand that feeds him while in fact working on a chew toy after supping on the thick slab of stolen meat that had been handed to him. This was also Leno somewhat unadvisedly uttering "going down" in connection with a sexy guest. On that note, let me take a moment to objectify Lindsey, who hit the stage dressed less than tastefully. She looked like a SoCal airhead hitting some awful L.A. nightclub that's six months past its prime. She wore a cropped black leather jacket, a tight gold-spangled dress, and five-inch heels she was unsteady walking in, with her teeter-tot steps heightening the trampy aspect. Here's how dense the Leno Tonight Show was: He asked Lindsey about her famous bruised shin, but no camera moved in for a close-up of her attractive gams. Still, freshly waxed by all appearances, her shins shined in the two-shot.
(Compare Bill Murray's Monday-night treatment by Letterman's control booth. Murray had hauled himself onstage on crutches while clad in a parka and boxer shorts. When he showed off a knee healing after an accident, the camera pulled in tight on a gross purple suppurating surgical wound—a nice moment of old-school aggressively weird Letterman. Murray was goofy on painkillers. Dave: "Are you in pain now?" Bill: "Well, uh, I dunno.")
Back on Leno, Brad Paisley ran through his current hit, "American Saturday Night," while backed by his band and a grand American flag. I want to be clear that I have no beef with Paisley, nor with the flag, and definitely not with Saturday night, which is all right for fighting. The song itself is a celebration of assimilation and multiculturalism, and it is laudable on those grounds (and within those limited terms). What irked was how those laudable lyrics worked in this context. Paisley marvels that all of us get to enjoy Chinatown and Italian food and Mexican drinks and Dutch beer and, uh, German automotive engineering. "It's like were all livin' in a big ol' cup," he twangs. "Just fire up the blender, mix it all up." Great! Another margarita, por favor! But Leno is serving something that, aimed to please as many palates as possible, is the same old pablum as before, the only difference being that it now leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.
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Howard Stern going in on Leno this morning
