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Discussion in 'General' started by fede dpt, Feb 24, 2009.
Same old. It'll never happen.
he has genius ideas, but of course he's ignored. are we really surprised?
its all about the media and ron paul gets no mainstream media play, and for everyone outside of texas, i doubt he gets and local media play aside from maybelocal newspapers
all you have to do is look at who mccain and obama received donations from versus who ron paul received donations from to know who controls the media
I really like the ideas that are usually brought up by Ron Paul. But most of the time they are so blunt, and extreme that most people shy away from it. Ifhe toned it down a little, it might work...but then what's the point.
so more government is the solution? you're brainwashed, good sir. the people got us into this mess? are you out of your mind?
your an ignorant idiot..... RON PAUL is that dude... he been trying to get rid of the fed, but u know ehat no one listens cuz he doesnt have appeal to themasses nor does he get funded from multi trillion dollar companies who lean on the govt for help. If u knew anything about RON PAUL you would retrack thatstatement but its obvius you know nothing more than he's an old man with ideas.. ... THE FED IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO THIS COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS..its not theonly problem but it is a part of the equation..... BEN BERNAKE the Federal Reserve chairman SAID TODAY " the recession should be over by the end of2009".......... if anyone believs that needs to get their heads out of their +%! cuz it aint over until the fat lady sings and guess what? shorty aintdone eating yet
Why the name calling?
its not about more government or less government, either works as long as its either less but effective or more but effective government, ronaldreagan might have been one of the biggest proponents of a smaller government in the last few decades but he didnt do jack %$!% to reduce the size of it, maybeit was cause of the dems or maybe it wasnt
is this day and age, the answer seems to be more government but it has to be effective, just reducing it isnt going to do anything, just look at where amajority of the money's going and you'll know that simply reducing the size of government isnt any kind of answer, that moneys in military, SS, andmedicare, yeah we need less "pork" in the gov but its such a little problem
Ron Paul is that dude.
He's definitely one of the better republicans, but after I learned about his racist comments, I started ignoring him..
Never said all of Paul's ideas, but you still never explained yourself. How is it the people's fault? 'Some' of his ideas aregreat, some are not. The government is trying to regulate the economy, and pretty much regulate currency... Never a good idea.
Don't take it out of context. Bernanke did NOT say that the recession SHOULD be over by the end of the year, he said he HOPED that it will, but heacknowledges that there are significant risks that could prevent this from happening. It all depends on how effective the Obama administration is in gettingthe credit/financial markets to operate normally again. Before that happens, there will be no recovery.
That's a good question.
Although it could be argued that the Fed, specifically Greenspan, was the catalyst for this whole fiasco by lowering interest rates to 1% and thus arguably,setting the stage for the housing bubble, the majority of the problems were still caused by the PEOPLE, NOT the government. The housing bubble, which is theroot of our problems today, was caused by the home-owners (many who signed up for a mortgage they know they couldn't afford), the mortgage lenders, thebanks, and the investors who bought the mortgage-backed securities sold by these banks. So the problem WAS caused by the PEOPLE. Everyone is at fault here. Theinvestors who kept demanding more and more CDO's to invest money in, thus causing banks to pressure the mortgage lenders into get more home-owners, evenwhen the original qualified supply had run out, thus causing predatory lenders to lax their lending standards and give loans to people that normally wouldnever have qualified. Things like no-down payment, no income check is just ridiculous. Although people like to blame the lenders for this, for good reason,part of the blame is on the home buyer too. If you sign up for a loan that is way beyond your means, that you know you can't pay back, if you loseyou're home, who's fault is that? If you don't read the fine print and realize that you're interest rate is gonna triple in 2 years, who'sfault is that? That's your fault for being stupid and signing something you don't understand. A lot of these homeowners were buying homes they knowthey couldn't afford, because they were counting on their homes to continue to rise in a few years, so they could cash out. That is essentially gambling.They were doing the EXACT SAME THING the Wall Street banks like Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns were doing. Using leverage to try to make quick money. Borrowa lot, hope the asset goes up, cash out, pocket a quick buck. It worked while times were good, but all good things come to an end and when you gamble, you winsome, you lose some. If you really look at the situation and see how we got to where we are today, there's NO WAY you can blame the government. Ifanything, the deregulation of government has helped cause this problem. The lack of government oversight in lending standards helped spurr this sub-primefiasco. Yes, the Fed lit the match with the low interest rates, but the only reason the fire has burned this long was because of the PEOPLE's mistakesmainly caused by greed.
I've been saying this... Both about RP and the Fed...
Ron paul is the ideal republican.....
unfortunately most new republicans strayed away from there party ideals....
Because he voted against relief money for his own constituents in Galveston county after Hurricanes?
so you want Congress to regulate the printing of money?....
what gives us any sort of confidence that they can do such a thing? If for nothing else the politics of having both Dems and Reps arguing over policy andholding our fiscal policies hostage.
True, problem is someone had to 'let' them buy these homes. It's a two way street. Companies have to agree to these contracts, and nowthat the credit crunch has begun, people are unable to continue doing this. I mean, look at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. People are part of the problem, not theentire problem though.
Cause he is a racist %@%*.
It's so interesting to be studying FDR during these times.
It's not about the credit/financial markets operating normally. What is this drivel?
It's about the trillions in time bomb derivatives.
The credit/bond markets have improved substantially but the underlying problem is poorly collateralized derivatives.