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without suede it's ugly as 

Did you get them at cheap price? I sold mine on ebay Last week. I will only keep the black ici, burgundy gold and Wolf Grey for summer

Dont know exactly, they May want kill the futures with the eclipse...

i saw these.... @redrum3281  

i saw the new low futures.....they are ugly in person....the mids are far better, including the material used on the mids....

i don't think they will release....what a pitty because they are dope cw. these were fake chinese ones available on several site. they were well made but FAKES. mine were size 13

I'm so happy to have got my Billy hoyle at Outlet at 85 euros, (so under 100$) !!!!

I will Cop them, as the VII which will droping in the same close colorway. i love this purple accent as per the Reebok pump battleground!!

Thanks for infos ;)

sorry for spamming...@Quad  

they are not the same cw for this year @bigj505  thanks, so what are B-grades shoes exactly?

Well, here some other defect, or roughly imperfection that will be noticed by the Quality department....i think like B grade products or things like that. bubble underneeth is poking out regarding the outsole white resin bubbles on one shoe this is poking out too much i think...i need to...

http://sneakerbardetroit.com/air-jordan-13-hornets-sample/

mmmmh you're maybe right on the sample date....but as i never had any samples, i can say nothing on this. on several websites, Micheal Jordan wore a sample like this in october 2014...so it can be fake regarding the year.... several pics of the unerside of the insole

here some pics to let you know  Here some pictures

Well, if they really are, well made ones.

About the Hornets sample,  i bought a pair of in size 13. i'm located in France and just receive them today.....directly from .......CHINA  well, i was worried about the quality and especially of a fake pair.... and if they are fakes, they are really really well made IMO. Upper Leather is a...

i'm definately in!!!

OMG what a collection!!!

@Zyzz  i do a 12.5 on other futures and other jays and they fit perfectly, i go on 12 on the woven ones, but the feeling is not my taste. I didn't tried the PRM bred i have in 12.5....maybe to big so i may need to trade them to downsize...