After Earning an AA Degree

Originally Posted by MF Doomer

^ In that case we can say he's grown with the companies team (since he's 40) and made his money young when he was on the corporate ladder. I'm saying those days are long gone.

I know a guy just like yours that owns a couple of Supras and a 1989 8 series (sick one too) that grew with this industrial company of some sort and worked his !+@ off until he was head of his branch.
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Yeah he's been with the DWP for a long time.

You don't need to have any degree to be successful at all. The one friend that I have that's always buying expensive cars never even got his AA, yethe owns a very successful filming company and spends more on cars each year than what an average house in SoCal is worth.

You and I probably don't see things the same way, which is cool. For me, getting at least a bachelor wasn't even an option, it was more like when,since everyone in my family has at least that.

I still think that advancement based on degree status is not extinct. There are a grip of people out there that major in easy stuff just so they can have adegree, since there are jobs out there that are willing to pay more for college grads than HS grads.

Aside from starting your own business of a sort, or being into real estate, and a few other fields, getting a bachelor will be pretty beneficial. PS excuseany typos or stuff that don't make sense. It's 3AM and I'm too lazy to reread what I typed, lol.
 
so you guys are saying getting a bachelors is the same as high school diploma...then why am i paying 30k for school in stead of 10k?
 
Originally Posted by DaCitySlanga

Originally Posted by JoeGalvan

notoriousPAT wrote:
aa is absolutely worthless, i put that on applications, (because they ask, not because i care) i havent gotten called back for nothin! lol
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i dunno... i was makin six figs/yr before i resigned last month with my AAS. maybe some of yall are just lame...
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Making 6 figs/year with an AA degree
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Im sorry, not to hate but, Ducktales???





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if you want specifics, i had worked for my firm for 3 1/2 years before i resigned in december. i was originally hired as a graphic designer, moved up tocreative director and then moved on to account management. this summer (after a small raise), i was salaried to make $96k this year...

over the past few year or so, the company started moving in a different direction (scaling back creative talent, but not the amount of work) and making someother business decisions that i just could really get passed or agree with... so i decided to bounce.

ive been on a mini-sabbatical the past month or so, and just now getting back into the swing of things....




ANYWAY...

heres the thing... i spent the last few years of my life specializing in marketing for the human capital segment (staffing firms, recruitment, ats solutions,etc) ... and the ONE thing that matters, when getting placed ... is talent.

everything you read about human capital (hc basically = people) is focused on/around the "war for talent" or "keeping the best talent" ....and in todays business world, talent DOES NOT equal degrees. do degrees help? yeah... but you need a proven track record to be taken seriously, not some framedpieces of paper.

its about the bottom line nowadays... and companies are much more comfortable paying a person w/ 10 years WORK experience, than 5 yrs + a masters. i know this,its been my job to know this the past 3-4 years. in order to market to these companies, you need to know what they want... and top tier talent is what theywant.

look, i was at a 20 person firm with phd's stacked on masters stacked on even more masters ... and i was BY FARRR the least educated (associate of appliedscience - web design and multimedia from the art institute of dallas), but i was also the highest paid outside of my bosses....

why? because i was grinding... i was very good at what did... and i have portfolio full of work and case studies to prove it.



im not gonna lie, there are exceptions to every rule... and i may be that exception... but im straight offended by people coming in here and saying the degreei worked my !#% off for is LESS THAN insignificant. especially when i have first hand experience contrary to that...

look, even in this thread there are people talking about how folks are going to school "just to go to school" or "because the economy isbad" .... or whatever. the people that do that are the folks that will have just as hard of a time finding a job as a person with an AA/BA and noexperience. unless youre going into the medical profession, it doesnt matter how much schoolin you have... it helps, but its not the deciding factor

bottom line is, you have to be talented and be able to differentiate yourself from the pack. nowadays everyone has a degree or two, but not everyone haschops...
 
its about the bottom line nowadays... and companies are much more comfortable paying a person w/ 10 years WORK experience, than 5 yrs + a masters. i know this, its been my job to know this the past 3-4 years. in order to market to these companies, you need to know what they want... and top tier talent is what they want.

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Originally Posted by JoeGalvan

Originally Posted by DaCitySlanga

Originally Posted by JoeGalvan

notoriousPAT wrote:
aa is absolutely worthless, i put that on applications, (because they ask, not because i care) i havent gotten called back for nothin! lol
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i dunno... i was makin six figs/yr before i resigned last month with my AAS. maybe some of yall are just lame...
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Making 6 figs/year with an AA degree
eek.gif
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Im sorry, not to hate but, Ducktales???
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if you want specifics, i had worked for my firm for 3 1/2 years before i resigned in december. i was originally hired as a graphic designer, moved up to creative director and then moved on to account management. this summer (after a small raise), i was salaried to make $96k this year...

over the past few year or so, the company started moving in a different direction (scaling back creative talent, but not the amount of work) and making some other business decisions that i just could really get passed or agree with... so i decided to bounce.

ive been on a mini-sabbatical the past month or so, and just now getting back into the swing of things....




ANYWAY...

heres the thing... i spent the last few years of my life specializing in marketing for the human capital segment (staffing firms, recruitment, ats solutions, etc) ... and the ONE thing that matters, when getting placed ... is talent.

everything you read about human capital (hc basically = people) is focused on/around the "war for talent" or "keeping the best talent" .... and in todays business world, talent DOES NOT equal degrees. do degrees help? yeah... but you need a proven track record to be taken seriously, not some framed pieces of paper.

its about the bottom line nowadays... and companies are much more comfortable paying a person w/ 10 years WORK experience, than 5 yrs + a masters. i know this, its been my job to know this the past 3-4 years. in order to market to these companies, you need to know what they want... and top tier talent is what they want.

look, i was at a 20 person firm with phd's stacked on masters stacked on even more masters ... and i was BY FARRR the least educated (associate of applied science - web design and multimedia from the art institute of dallas), but i was also the highest paid outside of my bosses....

why? because i was grinding... i was very good at what did... and i have portfolio full of work and case studies to prove it.



im not gonna lie, there are exceptions to every rule... and i may be that exception... but im straight offended by people coming in here and saying the degree i worked my !#% off for is LESS THAN insignificant. especially when i have first hand experience contrary to that...

look, even in this thread there are people talking about how folks are going to school "just to go to school" or "because the economy is bad" .... or whatever. the people that do that are the folks that will have just as hard of a time finding a job as a person with an AA/BA and no experience. unless youre going into the medical profession, it doesnt matter how much schoolin you have... it helps, but its not the deciding factor

bottom line is, you have to be talented and be able to differentiate yourself from the pack. nowadays everyone has a degree or two, but not everyone has chops...

Your story is one in a million, literally. Everyone knows that there are more people with 6 figure salaries with B.S. and Masters then there are 6 figuresalaries with AA degrees only.

Don't confuse this kid. He needs to go to school. AA degree and six figures? I've got a better chance shooting an incoming bullet word to Wanted. Youmight as well show up at an nfl combine while your at it. You're chances are just as good
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I'm gonna get my AA or AS next year, but I'm definitely gonna get a Bachelor's degree after.
 
Originally Posted by notoriousPAT

aa is absolutely worthless, i put that on applications, (because they ask, not because i care) i havent gotten called back for nothin! lol
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That doesn't mean its worthless that just means you haven't received any calls back.
 
im getting my AAS in business administration @ MTI college in sac.
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guess ill have to give it a couple more years for that bachlors
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then finding a decent job to support me and my fam
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Originally Posted by MC OTAKU

im getting my AAS in business administration @ MTI college in sac.
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guess ill have to give it a couple more years for that bachlors
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then finding a decent job to support me and my fam
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? What did you expect?
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by JoeGalvan

Originally Posted by DaCitySlanga

Originally Posted by JoeGalvan

notoriousPAT wrote:
aa is absolutely worthless, i put that on applications, (because they ask, not because i care) i havent gotten called back for nothin! lol
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i dunno... i was makin six figs/yr before i resigned last month with my AAS. maybe some of yall are just lame...
Click to expand...
Making 6 figs/year with an AA degree
eek.gif
eek.gif


Im sorry, not to hate but, Ducktales???
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grin.gif


if you want specifics, i had worked for my firm for 3 1/2 years before i resigned in december. i was originally hired as a graphic designer, moved up to creative director and then moved on to account management. this summer (after a small raise), i was salaried to make $96k this year...

over the past few year or so, the company started moving in a different direction (scaling back creative talent, but not the amount of work) and making some other business decisions that i just could really get passed or agree with... so i decided to bounce.

ive been on a mini-sabbatical the past month or so, and just now getting back into the swing of things....




ANYWAY...

heres the thing... i spent the last few years of my life specializing in marketing for the human capital segment (staffing firms, recruitment, ats solutions, etc) ... and the ONE thing that matters, when getting placed ... is talent.

everything you read about human capital (hc basically = people) is focused on/around the "war for talent" or "keeping the best talent" .... and in todays business world, talent DOES NOT equal degrees. do degrees help? yeah... but you need a proven track record to be taken seriously, not some framed pieces of paper.

its about the bottom line nowadays... and companies are much more comfortable paying a person w/ 10 years WORK experience, than 5 yrs + a masters. i know this, its been my job to know this the past 3-4 years. in order to market to these companies, you need to know what they want... and top tier talent is what they want.

look, i was at a 20 person firm with phd's stacked on masters stacked on even more masters ... and i was BY FARRR the least educated (associate of applied science - web design and multimedia from the art institute of dallas), but i was also the highest paid outside of my bosses....

why? because i was grinding... i was very good at what did... and i have portfolio full of work and case studies to prove it.



im not gonna lie, there are exceptions to every rule... and i may be that exception... but im straight offended by people coming in here and saying the degree i worked my !#% off for is LESS THAN insignificant. especially when i have first hand experience contrary to that...

look, even in this thread there are people talking about how folks are going to school "just to go to school" or "because the economy is bad" .... or whatever. the people that do that are the folks that will have just as hard of a time finding a job as a person with an AA/BA and no experience. unless youre going into the medical profession, it doesnt matter how much schoolin you have... it helps, but its not the deciding factor

bottom line is, you have to be talented and be able to differentiate yourself from the pack. nowadays everyone has a degree or two, but not everyone has chops...
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Your story is one in a million, literally. Everyone knows that there are more people with 6 figure salaries with B.S. and Masters then there are 6 figure salaries with AA degrees only.

Don't confuse this kid. He needs to go to school. AA degree and six figures? I've got a better chance shooting an incoming bullet word to Wanted. You might as well show up at an nfl combine while your at it. You're chances are just as good
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Why are you so negative? A degree doesn't guarantee anything; you still have to be work hard and be good at what you do.
 
I guess it depends where you are, and who you know.


The degree will get you noticed / in the door....
But ultimately, you determine how much money you are going to make, by how much you know / can do.

I know some people with a bachelors degree, and they make less than someone I know who has an AA degree.
 
Coming from a place where the most people earn is 22K a year

I thought (knowing not guaranteed) that with some decent schooling (even if only an aa) I would get paid 38K+ or something

Guess not.....

I was planning on going all the way to a B.S anyway or even above if things go well
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Your story is one in a million, literally. Everyone knows that there are more people with 6 figure salaries with B.S. and Masters then there are 6 figure salaries with AA degrees only.

Don't confuse this kid. He needs to go to school. AA degree and six figures? I've got a better chance shooting an incoming bullet word to Wanted. You might as well show up at an nfl combine while your at it. You're chances are just as good
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i guess... it all comes down to the individual. talent is undeniable.

im not gonna front, go to school if you can. but dont stigmatize everyone with an AA just because there are a lot of folks out there with paralegal degreesworking at CVS. those kinda people got a degree... "just to get a degree"... it wouldnt of made a difference to that person if they got a 2 yeardegree or a 4 year degree. college is just "what you do after high school" for so many people nowadays, its sad. i know a grip of folks workin atbest buy/sharper image/whatever with a bachelors ...

some degrees just dont mean %!*%, and it has nothin to do with the amount of hours put into it. again... it comes down to the individul.


ill say it again... go to school if you can, and if it really means something to you. but if youre there "just to be there", dont waste yourtime or money. because YOU will be just as valuable before or after. when it gets right down to it, your degree may get your foot in the door ... but its notnecessarily gonna get you the job. people hire talent, not degrees.



in the end, maybe im biased because my school only offered Associates at the time (began offerring bachelors my last quarter).... and ive been able to see tonsof people become wildly successful with my same degree.

my point is not to tell the kiddos "go get an Associates and youll be just fine" ... the point im making is, associates - bachelors - masters - phd,whatever the education... its up the individual to put it to work.



*signs off*
 
Originally Posted by AC4Three

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by JoeGalvan

Originally Posted by DaCitySlanga

Originally Posted by JoeGalvan

notoriousPAT wrote:
aa is absolutely worthless, i put that on applications, (because they ask, not because i care) i havent gotten called back for nothin! lol
Click to expand...
Click to expand...





i dunno... i was makin six figs/yr before i resigned last month with my AAS. maybe some of yall are just lame...
Click to expand...
Making 6 figs/year with an AA degree
eek.gif
eek.gif


Im sorry, not to hate but, Ducktales???
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grin.gif


if you want specifics, i had worked for my firm for 3 1/2 years before i resigned in december. i was originally hired as a graphic designer, moved up to creative director and then moved on to account management. this summer (after a small raise), i was salaried to make $96k this year...

over the past few year or so, the company started moving in a different direction (scaling back creative talent, but not the amount of work) and making some other business decisions that i just could really get passed or agree with... so i decided to bounce.

ive been on a mini-sabbatical the past month or so, and just now getting back into the swing of things....




ANYWAY...

heres the thing... i spent the last few years of my life specializing in marketing for the human capital segment (staffing firms, recruitment, ats solutions, etc) ... and the ONE thing that matters, when getting placed ... is talent.

everything you read about human capital (hc basically = people) is focused on/around the "war for talent" or "keeping the best talent" .... and in todays business world, talent DOES NOT equal degrees. do degrees help? yeah... but you need a proven track record to be taken seriously, not some framed pieces of paper.

its about the bottom line nowadays... and companies are much more comfortable paying a person w/ 10 years WORK experience, than 5 yrs + a masters. i know this, its been my job to know this the past 3-4 years. in order to market to these companies, you need to know what they want... and top tier talent is what they want.

look, i was at a 20 person firm with phd's stacked on masters stacked on even more masters ... and i was BY FARRR the least educated (associate of applied science - web design and multimedia from the art institute of dallas), but i was also the highest paid outside of my bosses....

why? because i was grinding... i was very good at what did... and i have portfolio full of work and case studies to prove it.



im not gonna lie, there are exceptions to every rule... and i may be that exception... but im straight offended by people coming in here and saying the degree i worked my !#% off for is LESS THAN insignificant. especially when i have first hand experience contrary to that...

look, even in this thread there are people talking about how folks are going to school "just to go to school" or "because the economy is bad" .... or whatever. the people that do that are the folks that will have just as hard of a time finding a job as a person with an AA/BA and no experience. unless youre going into the medical profession, it doesnt matter how much schoolin you have... it helps, but its not the deciding factor

bottom line is, you have to be talented and be able to differentiate yourself from the pack. nowadays everyone has a degree or two, but not everyone has chops...
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Your story is one in a million, literally. Everyone knows that there are more people with 6 figure salaries with B.S. and Masters then there are 6 figure salaries with AA degrees only.

Don't confuse this kid. He needs to go to school. AA degree and six figures? I've got a better chance shooting an incoming bullet word to Wanted. You might as well show up at an nfl combine while your at it. You're chances are just as good
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Why are you so negative? A degree doesn't guarantee anything; you still have to be work hard and be good at what you do.


He's not being negative he's being realistic.
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You see how big of a jump it is from high school degree to college degree? The truth is, in America, if you want to be competitive in the job hunt you'llneed AT LEAST a Bachelors. Even at that many bachelors like most in the ARTS & Sciences just says you can work at Sears upper management. You'll needat probably a masters to really be competitive in working in your own field.

There are expectations and fields of work that are different, but generally, the numbers paint a pretty clear pattern.
 
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