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9 or 40 because of its ease of use.
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I'd say 9, because it's used for both concealed and home defense.
40 will probably be the easiest to fine during a drought though
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grabbed a G42 with my trade in couldnt resist it for $320, yes thats an iphone 6 not the plus
will be grabbing a battlefield green G26 soon as my taxes hit
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Depends on what your your needs are.
For self defense, with good modern jacketed hollow points (gold dots, rangers, HST's) 9mm=.40. Plus the fact that ammo is cheaper, there's less recoil, and higher capacity in similarly sized guns makes 9mm the best choice for personal defense.
But I bought a 40 a few months ago for a couple of reasons.
1) Competition shooting- I just started shooting IDPA, and can see myself getting into USPSA. With USPSA, .40 is considered major and 9mm is considered minor, which has an effect on scoring.
2) Woods carry- A couple of times a year we'll load up the minivan and drive out to a National Park for a hike and lunch. Not that theres anything too dangerous in VA (compared to out West) but most of the parks around have black bears, some wild cats, and wolves//coyotes. For wild animals, I think most people will recommend the largest caliber you can comfortably shoot. I have load data for the .40 caliber that will send a 200 gr XTP or Wide Flat nosed bullet 1000 ft per second. That's good and sufficient for anything short of grizzly bears. Plus the fact that my fs M&P has 15 rounds on tap and is relatively lightweight is another plus.
If anyone ever wants good info on what a 40 caliber can do, check the link http://www.glocktalk.com/threads/heavy-40-s-w.1540504/
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One informal way of finding out is to check traffic on your favorite gun site. I just did a search for handguns on Armslist and saw the following (national) totals:
9mm = 8,316 listings
.45 = 6,012 listings
.40 = 4,133 listings
Keep in mind that I just did a quick search and didn't sort between buying, selling, etc, but that at least gives a rough idea on how many guns are changing hands today. I actually looked for this about a year ago, and at that time .45 and .40 combined for maybe 10% more than 9mm by itself (not much different than what we see above- they combine for about 20% more than 9mm today).
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Good info on this page, fellas.
For myself, I went with the 9mm because it was cheaper. That's about it.
For myself, I went with the 9mm because it was cheaper. That's about it.
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Compared to .40 and .45, 9mm ammo has the best:
1. Price
2. Availability (at least where I live)
3. Capacity (in the same size/class of gun)
4. Comfort/handling (recoil)
And if you use JHPs, the terminal effects in humans are pretty much a wash. So for me it was a no brainer.
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I want either the green or the brown, but in my head I can't justify the $200 price difference
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How much is that green glock 26? In black it's $529
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Itching to sell the N-PAP for a WASR
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She finally got here.
Can't wait to put some rounds through it..
Can't wait to put some rounds through it..
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Very nice.
Quick question. What kind of set up are you going to do as far as sights and/or scope?
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Man, I have no idea lol
This is my 1st rifle and I'm still learning about sights and optics.
I won't be shooting over 70-80 yards, so nothing major..
This is my 1st rifle and I'm still learning about sights and optics.
I won't be shooting over 70-80 yards, so nothing major..
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It's very intimidating I must admit with all of the customizations out there. Take your time and research what's best for you so you don't waste money on mods you hate. Dope rifle too bro
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Maybe it's cause I used to read a lot over at m4carbine but that "let it rain" dust cover....
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All facts here. Exactly why I went with 9mm. Great power, great capacity, great price, great handling.
If there's anything you cant put down with a well placed 9mm round, you need a rifle.
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Depends on the gun and if it's half or full. A half you can normally find for like $50 more. I want a full. A full normally $100 to $200 depending on the glock.
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Anybody has any experience building an ar? that may be my next project thinking about going with a 308, 300AC, or 556 upper. What are the cons/pros for going with stripped uppers vs complete uppers. I'm looking at some PSA builds.
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wow, dude who reported me for making a Penn State child molestation joke, who also has a Travon Avatar is all up in the NT Gun thread???
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whats your point?wow, dude who reported me for making a Penn State child molestation joke, who also has a Travon Avatar is all up in the NT Gun thread???
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I'm not an AR guy, but just wanted to point out that a .308 has stouter recoil than the intermediate cartridges you're probably used to (5.56/.223, 7.62x39, etc). I've never shot it out of an AR platform, actually the rifles I've shot were heavier, and even then I didn't care for the recoil. Obviously it's nothing like an elephant gun, but I am much more recoil-sensitive for rifles than handguns (I can shoot .357 mag and .44 mag revolvers with no problems), so it was a deal-breaker for me. If you don't mind the recoil, it does have good ballistics, is available in a wide variety of loads, and is easy to find. But it may be overkill, depending on what you want out of your new rifle.
From Wikipedia:
Cartridge Bullet Velocity Energy
5.56×45 62 gr 3,100 ft/s 1,303 ft·lbf
.223 Rem 55 gr 3,240 ft/s 1,282 ft·lbf
300 AAC 125 gr 2,215 ft/s 1,360 ft·lbf
7.62×39 122 gr 2,396 ft/s 1,555 ft·lbf
.308 Win 150 gr 2,820 ft/s 2,648 ft·lbf
.308 Win 165 gr 2,700 ft/s 2,671 ft·lbf
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