***New Reebok Pick-Ups, Release Info, etc.***

Checking End, I see a second order I placed is marked complete, but the one I placed during the crash, despite the PP email, is still not complete. So I am beginning to wonder if that first order will not go through - which sucks because thats the pair for my wife.
 
Let's be honest. Most Reebok customers wait for them to get marked down and most Reebok retros are already reasonable. Can't imagine there is a high profit margin with retros. Crossfits sell themselves
 
CrossFit sells my ***, that's why not even 2 months later after the Z-Pump introduction, they are discounted and all over the outlets, Reebok just cant sell, that is the harsh reality, they lost the momentum a long, long time a go, I had a small hope few years a go when the Attaq and the Kamikaze ll dropped, but they went out to crap on it again. Hopefully whoever buys the company next will have some more sense in their heads and do it the smart way. Oh dont even get me started on the genius that thought selling Above The Rim branding was a brilliant idea.
 
faceMizzy said:
 
Reebok has been doing some big things lately...

Any body have any info on these gems ever being retroed?

REEBOK SHAQ PREACHER ICE
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I'm inclined to say that if they do ever re-release them, corners will be cut.

If you want the 'real thing' maybe it's worth searching out an OG pair?

I wouldn't mind a pair of these either... but reality is i know demand isn't going to be that high, and i'd probably

sit it out for discount.  Which in turn reinforces my first sentence.
 
trentbg said:
CrossFit sells my ***, that's why not even 2 months later after the Z-Pump introduction, they are discounted and all over the outlets, Reebok just cant sell, that is the harsh reality, they lost the momentum a long, long time a go, I had a small hope few years a go when the Attaq and the Kamikaze ll dropped, but they went out to crap on it again. Hopefully whoever buys the company next will have some more sense in their heads and do it the smart way. Oh dont even get me started on the genius that thought selling Above The Rim branding was a brilliant idea.
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Crossfit does sell. Why would Reebok invest and open Crossfit apparel shops and not Retro shops across the U.S? Those Z-pump were selling (a little over produced) but they were selling. Cross-fit is a BIG thing, especially out here in SoCal. Hard to hate on that investment. As far as the retro line, Reebok don't have ENOUGH interest for the casual sneaker consumer. Besides Shaq and Iverson, the other players that were endorsed don't have a cultural impact. Reebok lost the sneaker battle A LONG time ago bro. You can thank Sonny Vaccaro aka "Sole Man" for that. He sold the Nike brand to college star athletes and high school as well. He create the Jordan brand by getting Nike to sign him. Mike would have went to Adidas but the fools didn't want to give him a little more money or his signature sneaker. Adidas didn't learn the lesson and did the same over 15 years later with Lebron. Just check out that ESPN 30 for 30. Anyways, we can stop being bitter and delusional. Adidas can't compete with Nike and they own and have more money than Reebok. Reebok sells a little on Nostalgia. It would be better if they were bought by the Chinese. They would invest more money in the brand and take more risks in a established company. Just saying
 
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Reebok sells a little on Nostalgia. It would be better if they were bought by the Chinese. They would invest more money in the brand and take more risks in a established company. Just saying
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I'd love to see Li-Ning take Reebok. Heard their quality is top-notch.
 
trentbg said:
CrossFit sells my ***, that's why not even 2 months later after the Z-Pump introduction, they are discounted and all over the outlets, Reebok just cant sell, that is the harsh reality, they lost the momentum a long, long time a go, I had a small hope few years a go when the Attaq and the Kamikaze ll dropped, but they went out to crap on it again. Hopefully whoever buys the company next will have some more sense in their heads and do it the smart way. Oh dont even get me started on the genius that thought selling Above The Rim branding was a brilliant idea.
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trent, I see eye to eye to with you but in this case you are incorrect. CrossFit is selling very well - so much so that the guys who pioneered CrossFit are pushing for Adidas to sell Reebok. You also remember that an investment company from Asia & the Middle East was looking to purchase them a while back. Why Adidas is holding onto them at this stage is completely beyond me.

Reebok's retro ship sailed about a decade ago. At the very least they should've thought about retro-ing some of their catalog circa 2009 when the 'sneaker game' was starting to take off, 2012 was late. The issue now is that they are bringing back shoes for a target audience that's in their 30s. Furthermore Nike has their sycophants paying $200+ for poorly made sneakers with equally poor comfort that they can only spend less than $50 on a better made sneaker with an actual sockliner and far better overall comfort.

It is tough to make a business case to bring back shoes that will inevitably have to be on clearance in order to move units.

The CrossFit shoes on the other hand use the same cheap, minimalistic designs and manufacturing processes as their Nike counterparts - so when they go on sale the profit margins are still reasonable.
 
 Crossfit does sell. Why would Reebok invest and open Crossfit apparel shops and not Retro shops across the U.S? Those Z-pump were selling (a little over produced) but they were selling. Cross-fit is a BIG thing, especially out here in SoCal. Hard to hate on that investment. As far as the retro line, Reebok don't have ENOUGH interest for the casual sneaker consumer. Besides Shaq and Iverson, the other players that were endorsed don't have a cultural impact. Reebok lost the sneaker battle A LONG time ago bro. You can thank Sonny Vaccaro aka "Sole Man" for that. He sold the Nike brand to college star athletes and high school as well. He create the Jordan brand by getting Nike to sign him. Mike would have went to Adidas but the fools didn't want to give him a little more money or his signature sneaker. Adidas didn't learn the lesson and did the same over 15 years later with Lebron. Just check out that ESPN 30 for 30. Anyways, we can stop being bitter and delusional. Adidas can't compete with Nike and they own and have more money than Reebok. Reebok sells a little on Nostalgia. It would be better if they were bought by the Chinese. They would invest more money in the brand and take more risks in a established company. Just saying
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Bruh, I am not sure why do you feel the need to challenge every post of mine, which part exactly you are not agreeing on, the CrossFit? I can tell you right away that yes, its Reebok's bread and butter, but that doesn't mean they are dominating this market, Nike are still selling a lot more cross-training shoes. Focusing on only one field is never the answer, again look at Nike and Adidas, Adidas didn't only focus on Soccer and running equipment and they are the second after Nike covering pretty much every aspect of the market, same goes for Nike, since the beginning they branched out, they wanted to dominate every sport and they did. Up until the mid 90's Reebok was a very close second, in my mind they were always number one, but that is a different story and not the realistic market representation. 

And I don't need to watch ESPN 30 for 30 to form an opinion, I was a witness to all that, in 1991 I was already in high school and at the moment I have over 25 years of sneaker history in my head, it might come down as showing off, but when we talk about Reebok there are no secrets to me, I can name every singe model that came out between 1990 and 1996, and probably more than the half after that, I know exactly what will sell and what will sit, which at this point everything will sit, but regardless, even Reebok executives know less, for all of my high school years I lived and dreamed all about Reebok it was a sickness of mine that I still have in me even today. Talking about Shaq and AI, I can personally guarantee you that Reebok sold more Kamikaze l and ll's in the last 2 years than Shaq and AI kicks, and if they were smart enough, with just a simple Kemp branding on those kicks, just like the originals, they could have sold double that amount. As for all the other athletes, Rodman, Bogues, Wilkins, Van Exel, Grant, Show, Dee Brown, Drexler, Robinson, Barros, Watson, Williams, Lewis, Causwell, Parish, A.C Green, Smits and many others, with the right marketing, underlining The Right Marketing and more limited quantities, they would have killed it. 

Regarding the Z-Pump, other than all the cats on IG that were seeded free pairs, I have never seen anyone to wear a pair, not on the street, not in the mall, not even in the gym, so duno if they sell or not, but probably not. 

Just knowing
 
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Just to add a touch to this Cross-Fit convo...I work in an upscale health club in NJ, so I see this stuff on a daily basis. We have a few trainers who train specifically Cross-Fit and Olympic lifting....They go between the Adidas Adi-Power lifing shoe and the older Reebok Cross-Fit shoes for their own workouts and their clients footwear. For work purposes generally they wear the Nike Free's and the like. There are a handful of people in here who actually are rocking the Z-pump on a consistent basis, so I will assume that they like the shoe and I can think of one member in particular that was wearing the Nike Fingertrap Max, and now the Z-Pump.

Cross Fit obviously is big business and sells well for Reebok, but as Trent said it's not the Be All End All for Reebok.

Will it continue to generate revenue for them? Of course.

But does that mean we will get other hoops retros and other gems from the retro catalog? Not necessarily, even if that's what we would like to think. And just because they might be hitting heavy in Cross Fit doesn't mean that suddenly everybody is like "Oh Reebok is back". It's a niche section of the population and chances are if you have zero idea about CF...you'll also have ZERO idea Reebok has any involvement at all. Plus if that's what they specialize in...people will just grab what seems to be the norm. Like me for example, I play hockey, and I'm a goalie...let's say I hated Reebok, and for a small period of time RBK was KILLING the goalie equipment. So even if I disliked Reebok as a shoe company (obv I don't) and they just happened to be one of the few manufactures making awesome gear for what i was doing...well it would seem like a foregone conclusion to buy RBK product. Hope that makes sense...

The one thing I think we all can agree on though is that Reebok seems to be quite lost in what direction they should be taking as a whole...not just certain segments that seem to be doing well for them.
 
As always, I can't agree more with all that. Perfect example with the hokey equipment, which is one of the few sports that Reebok are actually kinda dominating, especially after buying CCM, the only other company that I can think of that is doing similar is Asics and Volleyball. 
 
Reebok also is an official partner with the UFC, but I think thats a bad fit - I just don't see most MMA fans going for Reebok. And Reebok has failed several times to find a proper fighter to endorse and push that relationship - Hendricks lost on what? his first title defense, Jon Jones vanished from everything after that hit and run debacle, and that was after Nike had already dropped him, and other big names like Anderson Silva have balked at Reebok since he has had past relationships/preferences with other brands.

Anyway, just saying being the official footwear sponsor (or whatever it's called) of the UFC also isn't gonna get a ton of people buying Reebok, especially without a big endorsee on that front. And I would say CroffFit falls into that category, but even more so - until it's widely televised and there are recognizable athletes (like on a Wheaties box, not the cover of The Box), no one who is not into CrossFit is gonna buy the stuff. I mean, do we really think LeBron sells however many pairs just to people who play ball?

Not sure where I stand about any of the retro stuff - I never really cared for most Reebok stuff minus some of the AI line, and some runners. The End Huskies are the first Reeboks I've picked up in over 10 years.

Eh. 2 cents added.
 
@trentbg challenge EVERY post of yours? Man I barely visit this site. Whatever the case, Reebok is where it's at and their relevance to the basketball world is at the bottom. You can't change that even if you yourself took over. Peace
 
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Not sure why all these shops choose to use this god awful long haired shaggy suede. It's why End Vents were an easy pass for me
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Yea I am definitely not a big fan of the shaggy suede but its not a deal breaker for me either. I am just digging the cw on the END pair. But you are right though seems like a bunch of releases are having that shaggy suede, I will say that it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be in hand for the asics koi that just released. So hopefully its the same when I get the END pair in hand, plus with the whole husky theme it sort of helps me accept it.
 
ThreeGeees said:
 
Not sure why all these shops choose to use this god awful long haired shaggy suede. It's why End Vents were an easy pass for me
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I feel like on the END Vents it was because of the whole husky theme etc. so I feel like it was justified, not sure why it's on these though.
 
ThreeGeees said:
Not sure why all these shops choose to use this god awful long haired shaggy suede. It's why End Vents were an easy pass for me
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Because it's some cheap 'ish and keeps manufacturing costs really low as the retailers cannot predict if they're gonna have a sell-out or a clear-out.

Apart from the limited issue releases I just don't know how Reebok gauges thirst/demand for Ventilators. I see more cats rocking NB, Asics, Saucony than retro Reebok runners. Do these shoes have a cult following in other parts of the word besides N.America?
 
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