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John Wall is TERRIBLE
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Holy Exaggeration, Batman!
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If John Wall have no athleticism he'd be trash
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So a guy who has great court vision, can Defend multiple positions, and can get to the rim and finish at will has Zero basketball skills. Oh okay that's cool
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But he does have athleticism, so what's your point?
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I agree with you on that end, but just because he isn't DROSE, or LBJ, he's still one of the better guards at the point. It's too bad though because I'm guessing the mental atollment has worn him out.
Still, he'll grow and we'll judge him with another eye. At that point, the league will judge him and it won't be up to him to decide. He either improves and makes something of himself as a solid PG, or gets dismissed and replaced by the flurry of rookies coming in. Case in point, I do not think the other 4 guys on the UK team will do well as they are simply just guards and physical talent, no mental strength or basketball IQ.
The other PG is Kendall Marshall from UNC. I'm wondering if his style and left hand attribute will fit well at the NBA level. . Probably not if he doesn't have a shot. lolz
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Not at all.. but I don't see the reason in trying to make a point by removing an important skill. If he gets injured and isn't as athletic or in ten years when he's older, sure.. that could be an issue. But it isn't right now.
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I'm pretty sure Big J was just pointing out that its a completely meaningless thing to argue. You could say the same thing about a lot of guys in the league. Like Blake Griffin or Monta Ellis or Kenneth Faried or Dwight Howard. They are athletic, so there's no point in discussing what they're games would be like if they weren't. It's like saying Ray Allen wouldn't be any good if he couldn't shoot or Steve Nash wouldn't be any good if he couldn't handle the ball.Originally Posted by DallasSneakerHead08
Did the first statement really go over your head?
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Basically.
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Dumb thread.
John Wall isn't terrible. If there's one part of his game he can improve on quicker than others it's shooting word to JKidd. All he has to do it put in the work.
I can still see Wall becoming one of the best point guards in the game. He just needs to work at it and he needs a better coach. Once he controls his speed better, gets at least a decent shot and takes that that leap to being an elite defender the title will be his. He has all tools to make it happen.
John Wall isn't terrible. If there's one part of his game he can improve on quicker than others it's shooting word to JKidd. All he has to do it put in the work.
I can still see Wall becoming one of the best point guards in the game. He just needs to work at it and he needs a better coach. Once he controls his speed better, gets at least a decent shot and takes that that leap to being an elite defender the title will be his. He has all tools to make it happen.
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Originally Posted by lawdog1
I'm pretty sure Big J was just pointing out that its a completely meaningless thing to argue. You could say the same thing about a lot of guys in the league. Like Blake Griffin or Monta Ellis or Kenneth Faried or Dwight Howard. They are athletic, so there's no point in discussing what they're games would be like if they weren't. It's like saying Ray Allen wouldn't be any good if he couldn't shoot or Steve Nash wouldn't be any good if he couldn't handle the ball.Originally Posted by DallasSneakerHead08
Did the first statement really go over your head?
I'm pretty pretty pretty sure AC was just being sarcastic to begin with. Doubt he was serious.
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I mean it could have been the tanking from rest of the teams but it seemed he started to play a lot better at the end of the year.
Call me crazy but I'm not ready to write of the career of a kid who is 21 years old.
Call me crazy but I'm not ready to write of the career of a kid who is 21 years old.
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Don't Care. Still going to be a superstar someday. Just needs better players around him.
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You may be right, but considering at least one other person said pretty much the same thing and was serious, I'm not sure.Originally Posted by DallasSneakerHead08
Originally Posted by lawdog1
I'm pretty sure Big J was just pointing out that its a completely meaningless thing to argue. You could say the same thing about a lot of guys in the league. Like Blake Griffin or Monta Ellis or Kenneth Faried or Dwight Howard. They are athletic, so there's no point in discussing what they're games would be like if they weren't. It's like saying Ray Allen wouldn't be any good if he couldn't shoot or Steve Nash wouldn't be any good if he couldn't handle the ball.Originally Posted by DallasSneakerHead08
Did the first statement really go over your head?
I'm pretty pretty pretty sure AC was just being sarcastic to begin with. Doubt he was serious.
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I feel John wall actually don't like playing in D.C. honestly ik it don't have nothing to do with his game and rough start but that year he came out it was a weak draft. D. Rose is completely different player from john. I feel that John is a Street ball player like one of the guys said above me and haven't adjusted well yet maybe a good vet can help him like in cleveland they have Anthony Parker helping Kyrie Irving
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I expect him to make "the leap" next season.
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I'm positive AC did it exactly because of that. Someone else said it and was serious, then ppl got on him so he came through with the troll statement for lulz. Just look at all the posts before denouncing the last guy.
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I wouldn't say he's terrible, but he's definitely not as good as advertised. It doesn't help that he was the face of an incredibly mediocre draft class.
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He's got some things to work on in his game (jumper & cutting down on turnovers) but he's still young. Give him some time & some better players around him & he'll be fine. He's got a bright future, imo.
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Wall will be great once he leaves the Wizards. Just like every other player whose EVER played for the Wizards or Bullets.
Hell, even Michael Jordan couldn't win with the Wizards
Hell, even Michael Jordan couldn't win with the Wizards
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Besides even since Kentucky I always saw him as an athletic tweener PG/SG. Reminds me of Russell Westbrook when he came out, without the great supporting cast tho. I see him as a Monta Ellis, passing slashing 2 guard
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you know nothing about basketball. there is not an ounce of SG in Wall's game.
nooo... that's crazy talk.
Wall and the Wizards were significantly better after the trade and he even mentioned how he thought that the time after the trade felt like his "third season".. despite what non-basketball watching NTers say, Wall is trending upwards and he will be significantly better next season. anyone predicting him as a bust is gonna look dumb as f within 3-4 years, if you cant see the ability i don't know what to tell you
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????? The dude is a one man fast break. You can't be a good PG and be OC every game. He doesn't have the basketball IQ of a really good PG yet, he needs to develop that. He is crazy athletic but he is OC, he needs to think the game more. The dude has more than an ounce of SG in his game, even Calipari put him in at 2 guard a lot in Kentucky. He just needs to develop the mental side of his game. He's like Westbrook when he came out, he just needs to see the floor better.
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please tell me, if he is an SG how does he put up the type of assist numbers he does on that terrible roster? dude averaged 8apg as a rookie (with almost every player shooting under 40%), do you want a short list of how many players have done that?
just admit you haven't seen him play. the dude has elite PG ability and its just a matter of time before he takes the leap, whether in DC or not