Breaking Bad Thread - "El Camino" - A Breaking Bad Movie on Netflix 10/11

ColdCity said:

so in the first scene where the russian wipes blood off his boot...were they just coming from murking deckland & co or was that for something else?

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swendro88 said:

ColdCity said:

so in the first scene where the russian wipes blood off his boot...were they just coming from murking deckland & co or was that for something else?

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From killing Declan. He's not Russian though lol.

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Hand2HandKing said:

xBuddha Blessx said:

I also want to say Jesse's parents moved. If not that they and Jesse made it clear they don't want anything to do with each other anymore, especially after Jesse bought back his aunt's house from them for pennies fair market value.

Why are the "Europeans" murking everybody though? There has to be a legit reason.

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i think they could get involved if something were to happen to todd, but i dont necessarily see it happening esp this close to the end it would feel like a cop out to have a super army just come thru and wipe everything.

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xBuddha Blessx said:

@ "fair market value" Using that Saul slick talk. They got swindled. It aint even fair that the person that devalued the home gets to get it back for cheap after they paid to fix it up

Yeah I'd feel it was a bit cheap to bring the parents in now for anything serious. Maybe just another tense talk. Nothing like them being involved. I think it'd be too cold if Walt held them hostage or something.

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Hand2HandKing said:

xBuddha Blessx said:

@ "fair market value" Using that Saul slick talk. They got swindled. It aint even fair that the person that devalued the home gets to get it back for cheap after they paid to fix it up


Yeah I'd feel it was a bit cheap to bring the parents in now for anything serious. Maybe just another tense talk. Nothing like them being involved. I think it'd be too cold if Walt held them hostage or something.

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but they were bout be the real swindlers, buying the house and selling it back knowing it was a meth house

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Hand2HandKing said:

xBuddha Blessx said:

@ "fair market value" Using that Saul slick talk. They got swindled. It aint even fair that the person that devalued the home gets to get it back for cheap after they paid to fix it up


Yeah I'd feel it was a bit cheap to bring the parents in now for anything serious. Maybe just another tense talk. Nothing like them being involved. I think it'd be too cold if Walt held them hostage or something.

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but they were bout be the real swindlers, buying the house and selling it back knowing it was a meth house

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Brolic Scholar said:

That episode was intense.

Jesse is a *****. He chose the life and now wants to cry about it? It's his fault that he got manipulated. Homie thought he was street smart and got outsmarted by his old teacher and now he wants to fake tough it for Brock? Lil' dude is alive, just move on with your life. You had enough cash to dip out, but you wanna **** the plan up because you have a soft spot for kids?

Ugh. :x

Walt gave him a chance to get lost too. He hugged him on some "yeah, you're right I would murk you so dip because I still got love for your dumb ***."

Jesse never learns.

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xBuddha Blessx said:

Well I'm not an expert either so I don't know about the effects of meth fumes on a house but I thought the tent for the fumigation cover was for the regular fumigation process cuz most houses being fumigates have tents. It was just added help for the meth cooking. The mini tent was for the meth cooking as per usual. When I think about it I'm not even sure they ever fumigated those houses. Plenty scenes where they left the lab to watch tv and eat.

Anyway, if living in a meth house poses a risk to ppl living in it I guess that means Jesse has brain damage? Son been living in their for over a year since they last cooked in there.

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xBuddha Blessx said:

Well I'm not an expert either so I don't know about the effects of meth fumes on a house but I thought the tent for the fumigation cover was for the regular fumigation process cuz most houses being fumigates have tents. It was just added help for the meth cooking. The mini tent was for the meth cooking as per usual. When I think about it I'm not even sure they ever fumigated those houses. Plenty scenes where they left the lab to watch tv and eat.

Anyway, if living in a meth house poses a risk to ppl living in it I guess that means Jesse has brain damage?

Son been living in their for over a year since they last cooked in there.

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In a podcast interview with Vince Gilligan that aired some time last year (I’ve been trying to recall the exact one but have so far failed), I kinda-sorta recall Gilligan saying that something from the opening scene of the pilot episode would come back into play in the show. I can’t help but wonder if the mask isn’t that thing. A big deal was made of it back then — multiple shots of it were shown over multiple episodes — and it has never resurfaced since, as far as I can remember. I even seem to recall Hank having it sent to the FBI’s forensic labs in Virginia for testing. I can’t help but wonder if this won’t become the piece of hard physical evidence Hank needs to nail Walt. I guess we’ll soon find out.

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1)In "End Times," to get Jesse back on his side in the war against Gus, Walt arranges for Huell to steal the cigarette pack with the ricin cigarette out of Jesse's pocket and replace it with a different pack. Saul calls Jesse to his office on shaky reasons, and Huell pats him down in a way that gets Jesse's attention. Walt doesn't use the ricin to poison Brock, but rather a lily of the valley plant that will have a similar but less dangerous effect on the boy.

2)When Jesse hears that Brock has been poisoned, he realizes that the ricin cigarette is missing, then (correctly) puts two and two together that Huell stole it, on Walt's orders. He storms into Walt's house and threatens to kill him for poisoning Brock; Walt convinces Jesse that it was Gus, not him, who wanted to hurt the boy — specifically so Jesse would come to this conclusion and murder Walt for him — and that Tyrus must have lifted the cigarettes from Jesse's locker at the Super Lab. Jesse accepts that Mr. White would never hurt a child, whereas Gus has a history of hurting children, and lets go of the theory about Huell.

3)Doctors later figure out that Brock was poisoned by a lily of the valley, not ricin, making Jesse doubt Walt's theory about Gus manipulating Jesse into shooting Walt, and leaving him to wonder what really happened to the ricin cigarette. Walt stages a phony search of Jesse's house and plants a fake cigarette (containing salt, not ricin) inside Jesse's Roomba. None of this sits well with Jesse, but he once again believes Mr. White.

4)Over the course of season 5, starting around the murder of Drew Sharp, Jesse has begun to realize that he shouldn't believe anything Walt says. Walt claims to be broken up over Drew's death, then whistles while he works. Walt claims that Mike left town alive, when Jesse knows that Walt would've never taken out Mike's guys unless Mike was dead. Walt gives Jesse a whole song and dance about how leaving town will be good for Jesse, when Jesse knows that it will be even better for Walt.

5)Having been primed to disbelieve any word out of Walt's mouth, Jesse goes to Saul's office, lights up a joint and gets scolded by Saul, who knows his relocation expert won't pick up anyone who's high. Saul orders Huell to again pick Jesse's pocket to get rid of the marijuana.

6)At the pick-up spot, a nervous Jesse reaches for his pot, and can't find it. He frantically checks all his pockets, but all he finds is a cigarette pack. Staring at the cigarette pack, and realizing Huell dipped into his pocket without him noticing, Jesse realizes that his first suspicions about the ricin cigarette were correct, and that Mr. White was manipulating him into turning against Gus, endangering Brock's life in the process.

That the ricin wasn't actually used on Brock is beside the point. Jesse knew from the beginning that Huell had picked his pocket, and that he must have done it on Mr. White's orders. He has been thinking about this often in the months since it happened — far more often and more intensely than those of us watching the show have, and in a more compressed time period. When he realizes Huell picked his pocket, and stares at another crumpled cigarette pack, everything clicks into place about the events of "End Times" — including how convenient it was that this terrible thing happened to Brock, which turned Jesse back into Walt's ally, at the exact moment Walt needed an ally against Gus — and he goes on the warpath against Saul, Huell and that ******* Mr. White.

You may disagree with whether Jesse would have put all the pieces together like that, but that's what happened.

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HybridSoldier23 said:

My theory has been that Walt has the M60 to save Jesse.

-Walt has bounced and got his "new" life from Saul and was living in New Hampshire
-Jesse gets kidnapped or forced into working for Lydia and doing the cook to achieve better purity (It's possible Jesse is taken to force Walt into cooking again)
-The ricin is for Todd. See the opening to this episode where there is a close-up of Todd lighting up a cig,
-Walt shows up with the M60 ready to ride on Todd and his crew trying to save Jesse.
-Walt saves Jesse but is deathly injured in the process.

-I have no idea what happened to Hank or Walt's family but I want to see Skylar eat it.

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Brolic Scholar said:

That episode was intense.

Jesse is a *****. He chose the life and now wants to cry about it? It's his fault that he got manipulated. Homie thought he was street smart and got outsmarted by his old teacher and now he wants to fake tough it for Brock? Lil' dude is alive, just move on with your life. You had enough cash to dip out, but you wanna **** the plan up because you have a soft spot for kids?

Ugh. :x

Walt gave him a chance to get lost too. He hugged him on some "yeah, you're right I would murk you so dip because I still got love for your dumb ***."

Jesse never learns.

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ColdCity said:

xBuddha Blessx said:

Well I'm not an expert either so I don't know about the effects of meth fumes on a house but I thought the tent for the fumigation cover was for the regular fumigation process cuz most houses being fumigates have tents. It was just added help for the meth cooking. The mini tent was for the meth cooking as per usual. When I think about it I'm not even sure they ever fumigated those houses. Plenty scenes where they left the lab to watch tv and eat.

Anyway, if living in a meth house poses a risk to ppl living in it I guess that means Jesse has brain damage? Son been living in their for over a year since they last cooked in there.

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exterior tent was for fumigation...smaller tent was for cooking...all the houses were fume blasted after the cooks were done which is what we saw in the 1st run thru(turning on a big machine while leaving)

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I really don't understand the hate for Jesse. Walt has been a cancer to Jesse since the day they saw each other again in the pilot episode.

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