Official Miami Heat (4) vs OKC Thunder (1) NBA Finals Thread - Miami Heat NBA Champions

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[h1]Thunder, Heat get down to business: battling for the crown[/h1]

Posted Jun 10 2012 12:19PM

They've been stalking each other from a distance for months, wondering if and hoping that they might somehow get a chance to meet up again with everything on the line in a playoff series that will settle things once and for all. The Oklahoma City Thunder did their part early, locking up the Western Conference side of the bracket three days before the Miami Heat did the same on the Eastern Conference side.

But now that they are finished with all of that busy work, they'll finally get down to the business of fighting for the crown that both Thunder reigning and three-time scoring champion Kevin Durant and Heat reigning and three-time MVP LeBron James have been hunting their since they started playing the game.

"It's only right," James said of The Finals matchup. "It's only right."

He was talking about the matchup of the league's two best teams and the matchup of the league's scoring champ and MVP as well, since this is the first time they've met in The Finals since Michael Jordan's Bulls knocked off Karl Malone's Jazz in 1997.

(This will be the fifth time since 1967 that the scoring champ and MVP will square off with a championship on the line. The scoring champion has won three out of four.)

But anyone branding this series as simply the battle of the best two players in the world or the organic Thunder Big 3 of Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden against the Heat's synthetic Big 3 of James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, is missing the bigger picture.

These are two battle-tested teams that have weathered every blow imaginable.

The Thunder ended 13 years of Western Conference finals supremacy by the Mavericks, Lakers and Spurs, in that order, on their march to The Finals. They're the first team outside of those three to represent the Western Conference in The Finals since the Jazz did it back-to-back years in 1997 and 1998.

They battled back from a 2-0 deficit in the conference finals against a Spurs team that had won 20 straight games and looked invincible in doing so, showing off a toughness to go with their youth, athleticism and overpowering explosiveness that not even the mighty Spurs could handle.

Durant closed the show with a 34-point, 14-rebounds, 5-assist showcase in Game 6 against the Spurs to deliver the Thunder to their first appearance in The Finals since the franchise was in Seattle back in 1996.

The Heat stared down the prospect of elimination and legions of doubters in both conference semifinals against Indiana, when they lost Bosh for nine straight games with an abdominal strain, and the conference finals against Boston, where Bosh returned to play the hero with a huge Game 7 performance Saturday night.

They were down 3-2 and facing elimination Thursday night in Boston and James delivered perhaps the greatest performance of his season and playoff career, given the circumstances, with the first 45-point, 15-rebound, 5-assist performance since Wilt Chamberlain went for 50, 15 and 6 some 48 years ago. They're the only two men ever to finish those numbers in a playoff game.

James shined in Game 7 and got a huge boost from Bosh to outlast the Celtics as the Heat danced, literally in the locker room afterwards, their way to a second straight appearance in The Finals.

They failed miserably last year, getting upset by Dirk Nowitzki and the Mavericks with James disappearing in the fourth quarters and his critics and the Heat haters roasting him and them ever step of the way.

This is their shot at redemption, their chance to get right what went wrong the last time, to prove to the purists once and for all that "synthetic" is every bit as good as organic.

James, who spent time in the offseason working out with Durant in a grueling session the two stars dubbed "Hell Week," is still hunting that first title, the one that will pacify his doubters and beat back the naysayers.

"I can't worry about what people say about me, about my game, about who I am as a person," James said. "This whole season I got back to what I'm capable of doing, and that's having fun and believing in myself and my teammates."

Durant has done the same thing for the Thunder, playing his role as franchise savior to perfection. He's helped ignite Thunder fever around the state and beyond, helped unite a city and state whose sports fans for generations have been torn between love for the University of Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, and turned the "Thunder Up" movement into a source of state pride.

By most any measure, Durant and Oklahoma City are a perfect fit.

"My job is to come in here and get better every day as a basketball player, and being here provides me the best opportunity to do so," Durant said told reporters after practice Saturday. "The city is just so laid-back and quiet, and that's the type of person I am and it fits me well. It's just a perfect place to be. It's the perfect place to bring your family, just a nice place to relax and I enjoy it."

He won't enjoy it any more than the rest of the basketball-loving world will this series and these next four to seven games between his Thunder and James' Heat.

This is the matchup everyone's been waiting for. And before it's all said and done, one of of the world's two best players will have solidified his legacy with a Larry O'Brien trophy ... one at the expense of the other.

Five quick questions (With answers)

1 -- Could this be the first of many Thunder-Heat matchups we'll see in The Finals? (Depending on who wins this first round, sure it could, if many means at least three or four.The Heat's Big 3 is in the second year of a five-year contractual commitment. The Thunder's crew, on the other, is set for the foreseeable future.)

2 -- Who has more pressure riding not only the outcome of this series but also his performance, LeBron James or Dwyane Wade? (Wade has always had his heroics from his Finals MVP performance in 2006 to fall back on. So as usual, it's all on James. He's the one player in this series whose legacy takes the biggest direct hit, good or bad, from this series alone.)

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3 -- With no Phil Jackson, Doc Rivers or Gregg Popovich in the mix, will anyone even bother assigning a coaching advantage to either side? (Nope. Neither Scott Brooks nor Erik Spoelstra is ever given much credit for the performance of their respective teams, though they are easy targets when things go wrong. This is Spoelstra's second trip to The Finals and the first for Brooks, so they're in a similar situation in that this series will be defined mostly by the men in shorts ... like it usually is.)

4 -- In a battle of "Big 3s" won't it be the role players on both side tipping the scales in the end? (The role players will no doubt play significant roles in this series. But if ever there was a series about the stars, this is it. The Thunder's stars are on the cusp of entering their primes while the Heat's stars are in the midst of theirs. Guys like Udonis Haslem, Derek Fisher, Kendrick Perkins and Shane Battier will all have their opportunities to shine, but at its core, this series will truly be a battle of the superstars, James and Durant in particular.)

5 -- Is this series a fair fight now that it's clear that Chris Bosh is healthy and ready to go? (Absolutely. If the Heat had to play with Bosh limited in any way, the Thunder would have a had a slight advantage. But after seeing him in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals, it's clear that he's ready to go another six or seven games in The Finals.)

When the Thunder have the ball...

Thunder coach Scott Brooks has fostered a system that in this postseason has found ways to nurture the needs of his three biggest stars without any of them having to suffer. Durant, Westbrook and Harden have all had their moments and have found ways to be effective with and without the ball in their hands. And when they are clicking simultaneously, they're basically an unstoppable force ... as the Mavericks, Lakers and Spurs found out in succession in the Western Conference side of the bracket.

The one added bonus the Thunder have going for them is their bigs, both Ibaka and Perkins, are capable of forcing the issue inside on both ends of the floor. They're just good enough on the offensive end to beat you if you concentrate the entire focus of the defense on the perimeter.

When the Heat have the ball...

The most telling image of the Heat during that thrilling Game 7 win over the Celtics in the Eastern Conference finals was the absence of Mario Chalmers down the stretch. They don't even bother with the illusion of someone else running this show. James and Wade are the only on-the-ball catalysts the Heat trust with the game on the line. And you can expect them to be at the controls from the beginning in The Finals.

Even with Bosh back and healthy, the Heat don't work from the inside out. If they're going to find a way to work in the paint, it'll be through James and Wade taking advantage of any defensive mismatches. Their inability to play at a high level inside almost cost them against Kevin Garnett and the Celtics.

In the clutch

Durant has shown in each round of these playoffs that when closing time comes, he's the man for the job. He might be taking the shots, he might be drawing the defensive attention and creating space for someone else (Harden especially) to take the big shots. But he's going to be the one whose actions dictate things at crunch time for the Thunder, with Westbrook and Harden following his lead.

For years Wade has been lauded for his crunch time abilities, and with good reason. But even he admitted after Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals that this team will go as far as James can carry them. James delivered them from the jaws of defeat in Games 6 and 7 of the conference finals and he'll have to carry that same load in crunch time for the duration of this series.

Wild cards

Westbrook surely noticed the problems the Heat had containing fellow All-Star point guard Rajon Rondo in the conference finals. He'll be at his attacking best in this series. But the Thunder need him to be precise in how he chooses to attack the Heat. An aggressive Westbrook could mean first for the Heat. A reckless Westbrook could mean doom for the Thunder. He has to keep his emotions in check and resist the urge, the way he did against Tony Parker in the Western Conference finals, to turn this into a Russell-against-the-world contest.

The Heat survived a lot in this postseason, without Bosh, without Wade playing at his usual elite level every night and without knowing where this "roller coaster" ride of season, as Heat owner Micky Arison put it, was headed from night to night. But the one thing they cannot survive in this series is a power outage from the supporting cast of Haslem, Chalmers, Battier, Mike Miller and crew. They cannot win this series without the proper support from their supporting cast.

Prediction

Go back and check most any preseason prediction about which two teams would meet here and almost everyone had either the Thunder or Heat, or both. Neither team came all this way for anything other than an epic series. Thunder in 7.

(article courtesy of Sekou Smith via nba.com)
 
Want Lebron to get a ring... but not this year...

OKC in IDC how many (but in 7)
 
As long as Miami wins, I don't care in how many or how it happens.

My body is READY
 
There's another, but OP changd it to "delete me" so...

OKC is going to need a major performance on the offensive side of the ball, because their defense isn't good enough.

Miami in 6
Lebron MVP
 
As long as Miami wins, I don't care in how many or how it happens.

My body is READY
 
Harden leads the Thunder to a championship.

Thunder in 5.
 
Well like most people on this board noted LeBron cant run from Durant like he did this summer when he put up 65 points on him.  And then all of sudden every summer pro am game they were on the same team for the rest of the lockout.  So it will be interesting to see if LeBron actually guards Durant......
 
Well like most people on this board noted LeBron cant run from Durant like he did this summer when he put up 65 points on him.  And then all of sudden every summer pro am game they were on the same team for the rest of the lockout.  So it will be interesting to see if LeBron actually guards Durant......
 
I'm pulling for OKC in 6. You guys should see how outrageous ticket prices are down here. I actually sold my 96$ season ticket seats to a guy who offered me $1000 each, and now I realize I undersold myself. This was prior to game 7 so at the time it was vs TBD and was a chance it could be Boston who is less "must see tv." I'll be there though, all games, in good seats because I don't do nosebleeds. Problem is the Thunder allow 14,000 season ticket holders in an 18,203 arena so there's no availability when Ticketmaster sells tickets, especially now because they have to reserve x amount for media members and some people I know even got relocated from their seats in favor of members which is hilarious because she sits in nosebleeds. They put those people in a suite when they do that, and for free so it's not a bad tradeoff.
 
May 25, 2012

Oklahoma City Thunder vs Miami Heat

OKC would go on to win 103-87 in a game that wasn't really that close, behind 28 and 9 from Kevin Durant and Miami Heat got 22 and 4 from Dwyane Wade.

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April 4, 2012

Miami Heat vs Oklahoma City Thunder

Miami Heat would win 98-93. LeBron finished with 34 and 10 assists, KD finished with 30 and 4 rebounds.



Thunder-ous fallout: Haslem calls Perkins phony tough guy

IAMI — The pushback came in the second quarter Wednesday against the Oklahoma City.

The question now is whether that moment endures for the Miami Heat, reignites the fire that seemingly had lost its, well, heat these past six uneven weeks.

If Kendrick Perkins' shove against Dwyane Wade and Russell Westbrook's takedown of LeBron James created straight-up animus, the Heat and Thunder will have to wait until June 10, the earliest possible start date for the NBA Finals, to personally address such issues.

But if a game the first week of April can make a statement, then the Heat potentially move forward not only with revived hope of yet securing the league's best overall record, but also of rekindling the franchise's image of tough as well as talented.

The morning after the 98-93 victory still had the Heat fired up.

"I think we definitely turned it up a little bit," forward Udonis Haslem said during a morning appearance on WQAM. "We were a little frustrated. We got two pretty hard fouls coming from those guys on that end."

While both James and Haslem downplayed Westbrook's foul as one of exuberance in the heat of the moment, Haslem pointedly took umbrage to Perkins' shove against Wade.

Recall, earlier this season Perkins derided James for drawing attention to Blake Griffin's highlight-of-the-season dunk on Perkins. Perkins also has a push-come-to-shove history with the Heat dating to his tenure with the Boston Celtics.

That had Haslem firing back on his radio appearance.

"I think sometimes people just use the TVs and the cameras and the crowd, you know, to put on a show," Haslem said of Perkins. "I don't think he's all that he shows out there on the court.

"I think anybody can be a tough guy with a thousand people watching on TV and referees who call fouls and stop the game and different things like that. I don't seeing him being any tough guy that he puts on the show to be, at all."

Haslem didn't stop there.

"If we were playing at the park, I don't think he'd be doing all that," Haslem said.

While the Heat did not retaliate physically against the Thunder, Haslem spent the balance of the night giving Perkins an earful.

"I voiced my opinion a little bit," Haslem said. "Not entitled to say what I said last night, but I got a little bit off my chest.

"Where I'm from, all the talking and playing like that, if some point it comes to a situation where you've got to back it up, he's never had to back it up, because obviously referees always step in."

Soon the league may step in. Wednesday's technical foul was Perkins' 12th of the season. A player is suspended for a game once he reaches 13.

Physical play figures to become more common as the April 28 start of the playoffs draws closer.

"You never want to come into a game expecting somebody to make a dirty play," Haslem said. "You never want to come into the game expecting that type of play from somebody. But I think Dwyane and LeBron, being the big attackers they are, they definitely have to be conscious of protecting themselves every time they attack the basket."

Wade took it a step further, rounding up his teammates, in his role as co-captain with Haslem, amid Wednesday's second-quarter tension.

"I said, 'Look what they're doing to us, look at what they're doing to our guys,' " Wade said following Wednesday's game, with the Heat given Thursday off in advance of Friday's visit by the Memphis Grizzlies. "When it's time for these kind of games, we have guys who can step up and do it."

He then offered a most curious choice of words, considering that last season Thunder forward Kevin Durant called Heat forward Chris Bosh one of the league's "fake tough guys."

"We're not fake tough guys, we're not TV thugs," Wade continued. "We go out and play basketball. When it's time to get into the fight, we have a lot of guys who can get into it."

Or, in this case, perhaps use it for season-turning motivation.

"Everybody else has a truth about our team," coach Erik Spoelstra said, "but we're not afraid of these type of games."
 
Ehh i watch that summer league game and he didn't drop 65 on "him" & it is just a summer pickup game.I doubt lebron would ever duck KD, anyways Heat in 7 & bron finals mvp
 
Originally Posted by Big J 33

There's another, but OP changd it to "delete me" so...

OKC is going to need a major performance on the offensive side of the ball, because their defense isn't good enough.

Miami in 6
Lebron MVP



I need this.
 
Originally Posted by Big J 33

There's another, but OP changd it to "delete me" so...

OKC is going to need a major performance on the offensive side of the ball, because their defense isn't good enough.

Miami in 6
Lebron MVP



I need this.
 
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