GRADUATE STUDENTS OF NT

LuckyLuchiano said:
Thoughts on Getting a MS in one thing to be able to get a GMAT waiver to get into a MBA program later down the road? lol Thinking about getting my MS in IT then getting my MBA later down the line when I see possibility of management, currently have a BA in Info Sys
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I don't think that works for the top tier programs.
 
Everyone who went the MBA route... Favorite GMAT test prep book/program?

Been out of school for a year and am doing really well in my job right now, but figure I should take the GMAT's now while I still have somewhat of a study ethic.

Got good grades out of undergrad, had four internships (all for large well known firms), and am currently an Investment Analyst. So I'm thinking I got a good shot at most of the top-20 programs if I do pretty well on my GMATs. Might just go the MSRE route at NYU since you don't need the GMATs.
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Thoughts on Getting a MS in one thing to be able to get a GMAT waiver to get into a MBA program later down the road? lol Thinking about getting my MS in IT then getting my MBA later down the line when I see possibility of management, currently have a BA in Info Sys
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One thing that I have noticed, at my company not a single executive in the Information System's sector has a MBA. They ALL have a BS and MS in engineering and have completed a Management program at a university. They all worked their way up to executive positions.

I don't think that an MBA is needed for leadership positions in IT. To me it seems like you must prove yourself first technically then prove that you are a good leader that can manage.
 
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I see a lot of you guys are going into higher education and that's dope and I wish you the best of luck :smokin

I would like to say that there are many misconceptions about graduate school though. I think the worst thing that is happening is that a bunch of people just jump into grad school because they're not ready to join the job force. Even if your strategy is to blast through school to work in academia, job experience is very useful as a check point to make sure you are going on the path you want.

Between my BS in Civil engineering and my MS in geotechnical engineering I worked full time for about a year. That experience let me know exactly what I hated about the field I was in and the situations that you can get trapped in from a lack of proper motivation. Some of my friends are simply miserable in the field despite their academic success because school is just not like work. Some of them are trying to go back to school to escape the perils of work. The other side of the coin is that some people are purely academic and aren't cut out for work portion of the field. It's important to know what your niche is so that you can excel and enjoy what you do.

There is no safety in any field when it comes to having a spot in the work force with regards to your level of education. When it comes to gpa think about it this way, some of your classmates are better or worse than you at whatever it is you do. It's very likely that the generation before you has the same sort of people and now they're all working and potentially hiring. That classmate that didn't do so hot gpa wise might see a resume and say that it doesn't matter what your grades are as long as your competent and hard working ( because grades don't reflect talent). The opposite to that statement can also be true so it really comes down to you being the best you can be and rolling the dice on it. When it comes to BX vs MX vs PHD, people pick and choose depending on their current needs. In general, people only consider PHDs for research and teaching. A MX that has job experience for the time it took you to get a PhD is more useful to non academic pursuits. MX will get a faster response for jobs that explicitly state they want one but otherwise if the turnover is high for the position they would probably take a BX instead so that they can pay less for the work and have a person that's easier to mold to their standards.

Honestly there is no immediately correct path to take when it comes to doing this, but when you figure out what you wanna do , keep head up high and never be afraid to do what you think is best for you.
 
BeezyGotSole said:
One thing that I have noticed, at my company (NGC) not a single executive in the Information System's sector has a MBA. They ALL have a BS and MS in engineering and have completed a Management program at a university. They all worked their way up to executive positions.

I don't think that an MBA is needed for leadership positions in IT. To me it seems like you must prove yourself first technically then prove that you are a good leader that can manage.
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Of course, MBA/Masters literally means nothing in the IT World besides diffrierentiates your resume. I just got a promotion this yr and looking to become a senior analyst in the next two yrs , I love my company but a masters would make me stronger if I ever left. If you're gonna stay with a company masters don't mean much until you're looking to become a senior exec, I'm only 25 so that's like 20 yrs away and by then id probably be ready to just start teaching.
 
DatZNasty said:
Anybody here go to Grambling? I'm thinking between Grambling and University of Alabama now, just have to schedule the GRE/GMAT and get my 3 LOR's. I'll be doing the all online program, but make an effort to still go to campus a few times a month and network, get in the clubs, see the labs, etc.
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As I told you before Bayou Classic. But what all are you looking to know about Grambling?
 
Ballinsam23 said:
It all depends on your field. What place is gonna hire you with just a BA and no experience/internships? He's gonna regret every second if he cant even land a unpaid internship just wasting time away. In which at that point the end game is further away than what he thought it would be.

I have friends with a BS in engineering from top engineer schools that couldnt land a job for almost half a year. They regretted not going to grad school every second they were at home refreshing their emails. They literally looked for any type of experience available. Nothing in NYC. Plus its impossible to make the move with no money.

One is starting school in the fall now and has a commitment from Con Ed (job lined up as soon as he's done with masters), and another has a job lined up as a aeurospace engineer with 10k up front to make the move (not sure of company its in Texas though) with same commitment.

Once again it all depends on your field. Its not easy to get "work experience" as people think it is. But once again it all depends what field you are in :lol:
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NYC does seem to be tough market for engineers, esp entry-level (demand-wise at least) ... I interned in aerospace & lots of jobs for them down south (honeywell, ratheon, etc.)

ConEd is pretty solid, actually any electric utility. MAJOR generation gap in the workforce, so opportunities to move up can come quick, and also most management positions go to engineers. Overall not a bad field for engineers, but can eventually stagnate if you don't actively pursue promotions (obv depends on ambition & performance)
 
BeezyGotSole said:
One thing that I have noticed, at my company (NGC) not a single executive in the Information System's sector has a MBA. They ALL have a BS and MS in engineering and have completed a Management program at a university. They all worked their way up to executive positions.

I don't think that an MBA is needed for leadership positions in IT. To me it seems like you must prove yourself first technically then prove that you are a good leader that can manage.
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I've notice similar about execs that I work with, however, they developed their careers in a different generation. The whole "masters is the new bachelors" does apply to an extent & no matter what a masters, particularly an MBA, will surely never hurt you.
 
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LuckyLuchiano said:
Thoughts on Getting a MS in one thing to be able to get a GMAT waiver to get into a MBA program later down the road? lol Thinking about getting my MS in IT then getting my MBA later down the line when I see possibility of management, currently have a BA in Info Sys
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Getting an ME prior to applying to MBA prgrams, but still planning to take the GMAT. None of the programs I'm research offer a "waiver" at least not that I'm aware of
 
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Wafflegeist said:
I see a lot of you guys are going into higher education and that's dope and I wish you the best of luck :smokin

I would like to say that there are many misconceptions about graduate school though. I think the worst thing that is happening is that a bunch of people just jump into grad school because they're not ready to join the job force. Even if your strategy is to blast through school to work in academia, job experience is very useful as a check point to make sure you are going on the path you want.

Between my BS in Civil engineering and my MS in geotechnical engineering I worked full time for about a year. That experience let me know exactly what I hated about the field I was in and the situations that you can get trapped in from a lack of proper motivation. Some of my friends are simply miserable in the field despite their academic success because school is just not like work. Some of them are trying to go back to school to escape the perils of work. The other side of the coin is that some people are purely academic and aren't cut out for work portion of the field. It's important to know what your niche is so that you can excel and enjoy what you do.

There is no safety in any field when it comes to having a spot in the work force with regards to your level of education. When it comes to gpa think about it this way, some of your classmates are better or worse than you at whatever it is you do. It's very likely that the generation before you has the same sort of people and now they're all working and potentially hiring. That classmate that didn't do so hot gpa wise might see a resume and say that it doesn't matter what your grades are as long as your competent and hard working ( because grades don't reflect talent). The opposite to that statement can also be true so it really comes down to you being the best you can be and rolling the dice on it. When it comes to BX vs MX vs PHD, people pick and choose depending on their current needs. In general, people only consider PHDs for research and teaching. A MX that has job experience for the time it took you to get a PhD is more useful to non academic pursuits. MX will get a faster response for jobs that explicitly state they want one but otherwise if the turnover is high for the position they would probably take a BX instead so that they can pay less for the work and have a person that's easier to mold to their standards.

Honestly there is no immediately correct path to take when it comes to doing this, but when you figure out what you wanna do , keep head up high and never be afraid to do what you think is best for you.
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Repped, work experience is truly invaluable. Granted I've been pursuing a more mgmt oriented degree, but the non-experienced students just sound silly in discussions & group projects (I would too if I was fresh out of school). Developing a sense of perspective toward real-world problems is critical, at least in the engineering/technical arena, maybe not so much with arts, etc.

Even better when work & school is mutually beneficial ... my work experience helps me understand concepts easily, while most stuff I study is directly applicable to my work. That's the sweet spot IMO, although I do recognize the benefits of full time enrollment as well
 
GetYaShinebox said:
I've notice similar about execs that I work with, however, they developed their careers in a different generation. The whole "masters is the new bachelors" does apply to an extent & no matter what a masters, particularly an MBA, will surely never hurt you.
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I feel as if a Master's is a must now a days, if it weren't people that have been in the field for 20+ years wouldnt be going back for it.

I was just saying that an MBA probably isn't the route to go in IT.
 
I think it depends on what you get your concentration in for your MBA. If you do supply chian/sap with that IT you will be find
 
An MBA is fine for IT Director and above. At that point you're really just running an operation, not so much technical.
 
I got a question, why don't black dudes want to go to Law School? I see a lot of us in graduate school, but not a lot in Law School. there are only three in my class, none in the class below me and two in the class above me. There is a lot of diversity at my school in undergrad, but not in the Law school.

Why don't a lot of black grad students choose law school?
 
am1x90xnike said:
 
I got a question, why don't black dudes want to go to Law School? I see a lot of us in graduate school, but not a lot in Law School. there are only three in my class, none in the class below me and two in the class above me. There is a lot of diversity at my school in undergrad, but not in the Law school.

Why don't a lot of black grad students choose law school?
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It is too much reading. But na Law school was once for me but not anymore. Last year my university was trying to recruit me to go into Food Law instead of Food Science. Saying it was easy money and what not. My heart is not in Food Law tho
 
I've read that law isn't the best field to go into right now. Granted there are a lot of different variables.

I think one article was on Forbes, another on Business Insider.

For any students on here, are you optimistic about your job opportunities after graduating? And are you comfortable with the debt you'll graduate with? (If any)
 
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I am very confident in having a job come next year after graduation. I need to tailor this resume still/applying and if I dont get uncle sam to pay my debt. I feel some company will(or a good amount)
 
In NYC the pharmacy field is very saturated, but from what I read the field is growing. It was tough getting a job between 2005-2008ish although it looks like things are looking up now. I have 2 offers for a job already from retail pharmacies but I want to work inpatient. I'm confident in landing a job.

I'll be 160k in debt after. Plan is to pay it off in 4-5 years tops.
 
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Finally. Patience, determination, and resilience.


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am1x90xnike said:
I got a question, why don't black dudes want to go to Law School? I see a lot of us in graduate school, but not a lot in Law School. there are only three in my class, none in the class below me and two in the class above me. There is a lot of diversity at my school in undergrad, but not in the Law school.

Why don't a lot of black grad students choose law school?
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1. Most brothers don't trust the law... No matter where you come from

2. In my masters program... I've came across 3 american black men...

Soooooo... Its not just your field bro...
 
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