Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

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Miami Heat coach Erik Spoelstra wearing white/cement grey Air Jordan IV's during LeBron's MVP presentation

This dude Mike has nba coaches wearing his kicks!

That's a bad dude!
 
Since it's not hard to make the Finals on the East, Phil Jackson could take the Nets to the next level. Ecf minimal guarantee.

They got all the right pieces for him. Phil Jackson like big guards and center who can score.

does phil want to be gm/president AND coach? is he gonna coach full time or bring on guys like rambis and shaw.

dont think Phil wants to coach anymore, hes looking to be in the office and end up a GM soon i bet.

and Phil wouldnt coach the Nets. Maybe if they gave him 20 mill a year :lol:

SRS

$20M is nothing to a boss like prokh. :lol:
they took on joe's contract so money isnt really an issue

not saying it isnt, doubt he would offer that tho and not sure how it works with coaches.
 
Article is a month old, but damn does it summarize the clips very well.

Wow never knew how bad the team chemistry really was. Adds more fuel to the talks of cp3 leaving LA.

Clippers big kids shouldn't need a babysitter now

By TJ Simers

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-75199391/

The Clippers are in trouble.

They got their 50th win of this storybook season Wednesday night, a franchise record, but internal problems seriously threaten their chances for extraordinary postseason success.

The feel-good Clippers are gone, with DeAndre Jordan and Blake Griffin's immaturity dragging the team down.

Jordan wants nothing to do with Coach Vinny Del Negro because he blames Del Negro for burying him on the bench.

Yet Jordan's inability to play consistently or make free throws, thereby turning the ball over to the opposition much like a turnover, makes him a liability in close games.

Jordan sees it differently, and he has for the last two seasons, maintaining he would be more productive if allowed to play more.

He's as likable as they come and overloaded with athletic ability. But as an NBA starter on a team that wants to compete for championships, he's more cancer than consistent contributor while failing to justify what he's being paid.

He'll be unhappy to hear that, and he doesn't react well when not happy. But it's time to grow up as a professional.

Griffin is Jordan's buddy, and still a kid.

His development has been sabotaged by his inability to accept criticism of any sort.

It helps explain why he's always at odds with the referees. He's never done anything wrong, as he sees it, so why are they blowing a whistle and calling him out?

He takes a punishment when he plays, and right now he's playing hurt. But he reacts like a kid when done wrong, looking for the opportunity to get even while giving no regard to how that might affect his team's performance.

He wants the ball like any great player, but when it doesn't go to him, he pouts. He's 24. Most of the time the ball goes to Griffin, but he's concerned only about the times when it doesn't.

The Clippers' future success is tied to Griffin's becoming as mature as he is a high-flying superstar. It would be nice, maybe even vital to the team's success, if it happened overnight.

Griffin has already improved his game at the foul line and shooting from the outside. But he must do the same as a team player rather than aligning himself with the most disgruntled player on the team.

The other night in Sacramento, Griffin and Jordan exchanged words on the bench. Griffin told Jordan he best never again stare him down as he did when Griffin failed to give Jordan a good pass for a dunk.

Everyone else was left to sit there while waiting for the kids to stop bickering.

The pair have also grown tired of Chris Paul's voice, which is understandable at times.

Paul, very much like Kobe Bryant — who has turned off Dwight Howard with his out-of-this-world standards — is relentless. He never shuts up. And Jordan and Griffin have become weary of him.

When asked about being annoying, Paul smiled and said, "I need to work on being a better leader."

Had he avoided injuries, Chauncey Billups would have made a difference. He has the ability to get in the face of another player and demand more without turning them off. He doesn't chirp as much as Paul.

But he's also not playing for the Clippers these days or even practicing, yet another reason why the team is in trouble as it approaches the playoffs.

They need Billups, but at a level of play that Billups displayed before getting hurt a year ago.

Del Negro has done a masterful job for the most part in dealing with a deep team; everyone wants more playing time. But he's not a hand-holder. He's not big on sitting beside a player, throwing an arm around his shoulder and nursing hurt feelings.

He might want to develop a half-court offense that works, but that's a problem for another time.

The Clippers are fortunate because they have a number of veterans who understand what kind of effort the team will need once the playoffs begin.

But as much money as Jordan is making and as secure as Griffin is in being a NBA star, do any of the veterans have what it takes to get through to the immature twosome.

This should be one of the all-time joy rides in sports, the Clippers, the gawd-awful Clippers, going 16-0 in December and becoming the talk of the NBA.

They rocked the NBA world, but the buzz is gone.

And although it's true they have posted a record never seen before by Clippers fans, how do they get by the first round and then take on San Antonio or Oklahoma City while looking cross-eyed at each other inside a team huddle?

They don't, and so they have maybe two weeks to grow up and grow together as a team or this season of hoopla will have been much ado about nothing.

I wonder how far the clips would have went if they did the KG & Truth trade at the deadline and traded butler for ariza also. I mean this was supposed to be the year for the clips with a deep bench and everything. Win now type atmosphere/situation.
 
Article is a month old, but damn does it summarize the clips very well.

Wow never knew how bad the team chemistry really was. Adds more fuel to the talks of cp3 leaving LA.
I wonder how far the clips would have went if they did the KG & Truth trade at the deadline and traded butler for ariza also. I mean this was supposed to be the year for the clips with a deep bench and everything. Win now type atmosphere/situation.
it would of been a 2 year window of championship or bust for them with those moves, but  with the way the team is constructed now their ceiling is 2nd round of play offs.
 
Article is a month old, but damn does it summarize the clips very well.

Wow never knew how bad the team chemistry really was. Adds more fuel to the talks of cp3 leaving LA.
I wonder how far the clips would have went if they did the KG & Truth trade at the deadline and traded butler for ariza also. I mean this was supposed to be the year for the clips with a deep bench and everything. Win now type atmosphere/situation.

I dont think Blake is THAT immature, I mean he does get shoved around more than most other players, but from what Ive seen he does accept criticism, and tries to work on it, but than again, that is from what Ive seen, I dont watch many clippers games.
 
i've always had this thought process and never stated it for public consumption , but what if players can't get better than what they are ? are they deemed a failure that they cant develop more game than they have ? everybody wants kd to have a lebron type game but whats if durant is just the scorer he is know and nothing more than that . I remember the convos about melo just being a scorer and how he had the same tools as lebron but people gave up on that accept him as a scorer now , does that make him an underachiever for not deveolping a more well rounded game. to me dwight is never gonna get a go to move offensively but hes not a sam dalembert out there. 
 
I dont think Blake is THAT immature, I mean he does get shoved around more than most other players, but from what Ive seen he does accept criticism, and tries to work on it, but than again, that is from what Ive seen, I dont watch many clippers games.

But thats the point of the article. Behind closed doors the team chemistry is really a mess. All we see is lob city/cp3's "court general skills." With that in mind the casual viewer who tunes in for a clip game to watch just for lob city/cp3 will never phantom that cp3/bg32/dj are not getting along because at the end of the day they are paid to play bball and thats what the casual fan sees.

Unless you live in LA, follow the clips a lot, and are able to watch every game whether live or on tv then I guess you can figure out the locker room tension from watching them so much and reading the local journalists' articles, etc.
 
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i've always had this thought process and never stated it for public consumption , but what if players can't get better than what they are ? are they deemed a failure that they cant develop more game than they have ? everybody wants kd to have a lebron type game but whats if durant is just the scorer he is know and nothing more than that . I remember the convos about melo just being a scorer and how he had the same tools as lebron but people gave up on that accept him as a scorer now , does that make him an underachiever for not deveolping a more well rounded game. to me dwight is never gonna get a go to move offensively but hes not a sam dalembert out there. 

Melo never had the passing lebron had and never even showed glimpses of it just stop, on the other hand KD is starting to show that he can do it, might be a while before he gets it down to a science, but hes showing it, and the scoring and rebounding is already there and even a little better than bron.
 
i've always had this thought process and never stated it for public consumption , but what if players can't get better than what they are ? are they deemed a failure that they cant develop more game than they have ? everybody wants kd to have a lebron type game but whats if durant is just the scorer he is know and nothing more than that . I remember the convos about melo just being a scorer and how he had the same tools as lebron but people gave up on that accept him as a scorer now , does that make him an underachiever for not deveolping a more well rounded game. to me dwight is never gonna get a go to move offensively but hes not a sam dalembert out there. 

Melo never had the passing lebron had and never even showed glimpses of it just stop, on the other hand KD is starting to show that he can do it, might be a while before he gets it down to a science, but hes showing it, and the scoring and rebounding is already there and even a little better than bron.
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^ someone insert mike brown confused face gif..


Boston writer voting for a knick player.. Is this like that security guard in the garden with the 3 to the dome thing
 
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So my vote had more to do with Anthony and less to do with the dominance of LeBron. If you were to take Anthony off the Knicks, they are a lottery team. James plays with two other All-Stars, the league’s all-time 3-point leader, a defensive stalwart, and a fearless point guard. The Heat are loaded.

This argument sucks.

LeBron took a lottery team to the damn Finals.

Lets act like another dude on the team doesn't have a contract worth 100M and Tyson didn't win DPOY last season.

Son wanted attention, he knew damn well everyone was voting for LeBron this year, :lol:.
 
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These "NBA Cares" commercials are so fake and dishonest.


You telling me Carmelo Anthony cares about "Giving Back" to the community when dude won't give the ball back to his teammates
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Melo's game is in a horrific place right now.

71-188 (37%), 12 assists, 18 turnovers in the playoffs so far
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Don't know if this was posted but the guy that voted for Carmelo was from the Boston Globe. Great article


http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...gzGaxzlt9KF0JDfqM/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw
I knew this would be his logic. As much as I agree with it and was preaching those same sentiments earlier this year, that isnt what the MVP is about to people, and it hasnt been that way for years. Its now about whos the best player on the best team or some variation of that. Kudos to him for going about it the right way though.

Wade should have won MVP that year he dragged that Heat team into the playoffs. When he got hurt they were clearly the worst team in the league. I've given up on the MVP going to the "Most Valuable Player" though. It doesnt work that way simply because no matter how sound of an argument you make, its largely based on hypotheticals. "They would be a lottery team without Melo" is a hypothetical, and no matter how good of an argument you make, the fact that it is a hypothetical makes it too easy to refute.

I wouldnt be surprised if he lost his voting priveleges for being a "contrarian". MVP hasnt meant what its called in a long time and everyone knows that, and the uproar over him robbing LeBron of history might just get him in hot water. I wish the name of the award would just change or they create some guidelines for the thing.
Lulz.
 
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