Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
LOL WTF Is Artest talking about 
roll.gif
 
How much am I supposed to blame a bipolar SG and a guy I know doesn't impact a game outside of scoring?

I at least want the coach to TRY to put us in a position to win. Woodson is failing terribly.
 
J's: To be fair, JR has seemingly cut back the partying and consequently improved his work ethic this season. It has shown on the court.
 
Big J 33 said:
Mike Woodson isn't a very good coach. He can't make adjustments to save his life, he shows an insane loyalty to some players (Kidd, JR) and buries other players. The Knicks were successful because they rained 3's this year and their defense was average.

Unless you have one of the elite guys, there's a lot of fluctuation with the rest of the coaches. It's hard to say what coach would have done a better job with this team, but Woodson is the same guy from Atlanta... so any improvement was exaggerated.
Click to expand...

As always.

Comes thru with the Real :smokin
 
JJs07 said:
MrONegative said:
The Knicks before JR elbowed JET would've stood a better chance against Miami than these Pacers.
Click to expand...

Honest question, but why do people feel like the elbow was the turning point for the Knicks/JR Smith in the playoffs? He's a streaky player...not exactly the model of consistency. This is the same dude who was out watching the Mayweather fight at 40/40 the night/morning before a 3:30 tip. It's obvious he can't handle playing ball in the city.
Click to expand...

Because it was the turning point :rolleyes

Since that suspension he has struggled. He hasn't had a stretch this bad ALL season. You know he was the 6th man of the year, right?
 
100027 said:
MrONegative said:
Stop it.


You're mistaking not being Mike D'Antoni with being a strong defensive coach.
Click to expand...
I just don't understand how you guys can so obsessively find reasons to blame everyone except for J.R. and Melo.  It's like you have a pathological obsession with low-efficiency chuckers.

Also, per Woodson, I mean.  He's better than many coaches in the league.  That's the standard I would use for calling him "good" or "bad".  Obviously he should have played Copeland and Novak,.. no idea what he was thinking.

I mean, look what the Nets were working with, with PJ
Click to expand...

Look, Melo definitely deserves blame. And people have been giving J.R. hell in the official thread. But we can't blame literally every single failure this team managed to accomplish on one man. That's just irrational now. Melo ain't the reason Tyson has been a shell of his former self or the reason Kidd has completely plummeted in playing form. He's also not the reason why we continue to double team when Indy's shooters have been killing us consistently.

He's definitely not innocent though....his play left much to be desired during several key games in the last series and this series. I don't think anyone can deny that.
 
JJs07 said:
Honest question, but why do people feel like the elbow was the turning point for the Knicks/JR Smith in the playoffs? He's a streaky player...not exactly the model of consistency. This is the same dude who was out watching the Mayweather fight at 40/40 the night/morning before a 3:30 tip. It's obvious he can't handle playing ball in the city.
Click to expand...
it was the turning point for his ego.. a dude that chucks that much doesn't give any dams.. but the league put him in check
 
JD617 said:
They were a below-average defensive team all year. Finished at 18th in the league.
Click to expand...
Maybe I'm wrong, hell, I'm not going to go crazy trying to defend Mike Woodson.

I respected the job he did in Atlanta based on that team's talent- he got them to about where they belonged, consistently.  Maybe he's not an A-level coach but he created winning identities for both the Knicks and Hawks.

What did you really expect from NY, based on their team?  Are they really better than those Hawks were?  

I'm not going to keep beating the same drum, but...  Who am I kidding, yes I will.  Carmelo has the worst playoff record of ANY player to play 50 games!  This team ain't making the finals no matter who the coach is.
 
8PM at MSG said:
Look, Melo definitely deserves blame. And people have been giving J.R. hell in the official thread. But we can't blame literally every single failure this team managed to accomplish on one man. That's just irrational now. Melo ain't the reason Tyson has been a shell of his former self or the reason Kidd has completely plummeted in playing form. He's also not the reason why we continue to double team when Indy's shooters have been killing us consistently.

He's definitely not innocent though....his play left much to be desired during several key games in the last series and this series. I don't think anyone can deny that.
Click to expand...
Hey, I agree.  Tyson's been terrible, Woodson made no sense by not putting in Prigioni, Novak, and Copeland, obviously J.R. has been useless, whole team getting killed on the boards.  None of that is Melo's fault.

Just so it's clear I'm not insane about it.  
 
So it's the elbow (suspension) and not Indiana's superior perimeter defense coupled with JR's difficult shot selection?
 
Truballa101 said:
Because it was the turning point :rolleyes

Since that suspension he has struggled. He hasn't had a stretch this bad ALL season. You know he was the 6th man of the year, right?
Click to expand...

Thanks for the condescending reply.

He was pretty bad in February.

You know he's a streaky player, so blaming it on his suspension, IMO, is a bit silly. There is PLENTY of blame to go around. There are a lot of players who miss games in the playoffs due to injury or suspension, and come back to play well. You're ignoring the fact that he's a high-volume chucker who can easily go through a stretch of maddening play, to only flip things around and look brilliant.

*edit*

JR is part of the problem..but he's not THE sole problem. He's being made into a scapegoat for the Knicks potential collapse.
 
Last edited:
Dade B0Y said:
If you like Iso-centric offense, with a touch of stagnant pick and rolls, Mike Woodson is your guy.
Click to expand...
+ like Big J mentioned, the undying loyalty to certain guys no matter what.

It's kind of funny though...the element of their offense that actually worked this season was derived from his predecessor's playbook.

When it comes to coaching personalities and having the vets' respect...Woodson is a good fit for the team. On the X's and O's side of things, he sucks. 
MrPopadopolous said:
The Pacers should wear black to the next game.
Click to expand...
Wouldn't 'eem be mad.
 
I definitely pointed out the irony that the "defensive minded" coach had the 18th rated defense (which was about MDA's average while in Phoenix) and the third best offense while breaking a record for most 3's :lol:

If I had a dollar for every time Knicks fans complained about D'Antoni's "too many three's" I could afford to go to a Knicks game.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.

The ultimate sneaker enthusiast community.

NikeTalk was created as a way of giving back to both the sneaker enthusiast community and to the greater global community of which we are all a part.

NikeTalk is NOT affiliated with Nike Inc. in any way, shape, or form. All opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Nike, Inc.

© 1999-2024 NikeTalk.com

Share this page

Back
Top Bottom