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The best answer to people like NH is silence and time. Recent events keep proving the Never Trumpers right.
 
If reading up on Bernie's new single payer proposal on Vox. Man WTF

If I was a Dem Senator I would not sign onto this.

His interview is even more troubling. He presents this as a comprehensive policy plan, and anything short of it is a failure, but the plan goes beyond other countries single payer plans and he proposes no way to pay for it. I would excuse the lack of funding if this was not being marketed as a comprehensive bill, instead on an outline.

In the Vox article he dismisses objections to the plan and says the goal is simple. When they ask him how he is gonna pay for it he say that "health insurance is complicated". Smh, why does sound familiar. :lol:

Then when he ask if he will attack other Dems he says no, but says he will not tell his supporters not attack them, because we live in a Democracy and Dems already face millions of attack ads from the GOP so they need to deal with it.

I'm sorry, but Bernie on some clown **** once again. Dude had a chance to pivot to a workable robust public option and blows it.

This is incredibly disappointing :smh:
 
Bernie's plan also outlaws all private plans. All of them.

So there is no room for supplemental plans. Most countries with single payer programs don't do this.

My god, like why Bernie, why.

Edit: Reading up on it. I maybe wrong. Supplemental plans may be allowed, but plans that cover the same thing as the new Medicare plans will be outlawed.
 
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Help, I Can't Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters
KOREY LANE
SEPTEMBER 8, 2017 4:23 PM
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STOCKSY

When someone asks about my worst hookup, I have plenty of options to choose from, but I inevitably end up telling the same story. It’s the one where I started arguing with a Trump supporter at a bar and then before I knew it, I was waking up the next morning in his bedroom. There were flags everywhere: Ronald Reagan's face was emblazoned on one of them, “Don’t Tread On Me” made an appearance on another. I say it was the “worst” not because the sex was bad, but because, well, see above.

This was in early 2016 and—while it doesn’t excuse my choice of partner—it was before Pussygate, before the suggestion of violence against his opponents,, and before the realities of a Trump presidency really set in. So while I found a lot of his comments abhorrent, hooking up with one of his supporters wasn't quite the moral conundrum to me that it would become a few months later.


To my own surprise, we kept hooking up and—despite the fact that our political opinions were diametrically opposed—it didn't feel weird. When we texted, we'd naturally argue about politics, but also about other things, like if corn or flour tortillas made for the best tacos, or whether Drake or Kendrick Lamar was the better rapper (I said Kendrick, of course). When we met up in person, that pent-up anger would turn into frustration, which would turn into a sort of competitive tension that resulted, inevitably, in sex.

I knew we'd never be anything more to each other than a hookup, but I didn’t care. The sex was hot, and it was uncomplicated in the sense that neither of us expected—or even really wanted—any strings attached. And since I was confident in my political convictions, all that witty banter about tax codes, emails, and border walls was the foreplay I never knew I needed.

I assumed it was a onetime experiment, but shortly after we ended things I started sleeping with yet another Trumpster who I was inexplicably attracted to. This, I'm sorry to say, was after Trump had secured the nomination, but in my defense I was still pretty certain we were going to elect Hillary Clinton, so I could ignore the fact that this guy's family wore MAGA hats. Harder to ignore was his conviction that if Clinton won, we would automatically go to war—with which country, he couldn’t say, but he was certain that a woman president would lead to war because…emotions, maybe? I have no idea. He was ill-informed, sexist, and loved to start arguments with me.


But once again the thrill of the election and the friction of our differences made the passion so much more palpable in bed. So I pushed aside his ingrained bigotry and instead let it wash over me, filling me with a desire to prove him wrong—or maybe to just be on top of him.

As much as I don't like the idea of sleeping with people whose values are clearly the opposite of my own, I can’t seem to stop, especially since the election. I’m an extremely competitive person and knowing that the guy I’m with is on the “winning” team (even though I’m still correct) just forces that competitiveness into overdrive. Even when my annoyance with Trump and his supporters turns into depression, anxiety, and frustration, I still get an odd sense of vindication after sleeping with one of them.

And it’s by no means just a way to feed into that whole “What if I can change him?” cliché. I don’t need any of these Trumpsters to actually like me. It’s merely because I’ve discovered that crazy political tension also makes for great sexual tension.

Plus, in an odd way, sleeping with Trump supporters reaffirms my own political and personal values. I don’t think I could ever have a serious relationship with a one—I can’t be with someone who won’t understand why the news sometimes causes me to burst into tears, or why I want to throw my phone across the room after reading the President’s latest tweet. For me, differing political ideologies are a deal breaker. But that only makes me more OK with accepting these flings for what they are: Opportunities for excellent hate-sex. And to be able to walk away unbothered, unburdened, and sexually satisfied makes me feel powerful at a time when many people with my liberal leanings have never felt less in control.


Is this a sustainable pattern? Probably not. For one, it occasionally brings me added stress and it isn’t really the kind of relationship I want in the long run. But for right now I can highly recommend hooking up with someone whose politics you hate.

As long as you don’t forget to vote.

https://www.glamour.com/story/hooking-up-with-trump-voters-essay


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Man, I was gonna respond but I figured I was bugging and this was an informative article that people appreciated and not one person telling her story of lacking self control in bed.:lol:

Is it just me or was that article crazy? Like ole girl would curve a dude that had the same views as her at bar because of this odd fetish. So strange, man.
 
Hov looks zesty, and you topped his Zest level.

And you put the article in a quote, and cut out the extra stuff. You are just are just pasting it.
 
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unlike da old NT, when you put something that long in da current quote it abridges it.

don't like it.
 
unlike da old NT, when you put something that long in da current quote it abridges it.

don't like it.

But famb - YOU already read the article, why do you need to see it on the page in long form? It's much easier navigate threads when people put their articles in spoilers and quotes because you don't have to endlessly scroll if it's an article you don't want to read. Granted - I read, and appreciated, both the articles you posted today but damn.
 
my phone automatically formats, so does this forum...what are u talking about?
lol you're hilarious if you think that's proper formatting in the first post

Not even hating on the articles
Just a pain to read aesthetically
 
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got absolutely nothing to worry about in this era.
Yeah look zesty, so did you.

And KD and Wade ain't be talking about frotting, and commenting on dudes sugar daddy appeal either, b.

As a dude pushing 40, you defense is really "well it is in style" :lol: . C'mon now

- btw, just talking about your fashion sense. If you outchea living your truth, no shade, all respect and much love.
 
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