***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[jpzx]

If the way you conduct yourself in a discussion causes people to ignore you, that is not an attack on your freedom of speech

Yes exactly, the freedom of speech is equivalent to allowing anyone to speak, not allowing the means for someone to be heard. No one has to listen to you, but they will and likely respond if they listen and either like/don't like what you're pedaling. Because that's what it takes to be accurate, and it shouldn't hush or discourage conversation, in fact, it should encourage you to retrieve all the facts so the discussion actually has a chance to go somewhere and we're not sitting around talking about freedom of speech rights. Otherwise what's the point of talking/advancing anything from different interpretations of meaning if we're not first all able to insure our own words?

 

[jpzx]

Just care about the factual information that your opinion's based on as much as you care about your opinion.

... because then you MAY just find out how to get people to care about your opinion

 

[the red model]

Whos libertarian policies?

Everything can sound good in a vaccum but the population is already programmed, most notably to consume beyond reason. Nothing good will come from libertarianism, socialism, anarchy, communism ect. if you try to apply it to the current population. Rules or policies are made to be sidesteped and more often than not we err on the side of greed and materialism. Imo systems of government ultimately depend on the purpose of life, and if there is no purpose then it doesnt really matter.

I was going to say the same. Everything sounds dope in a vacuum. Libertarians like to pretend the "market" would solve everything. Slavery would have ended because the market would have demanded it. The police shouldn't be allowed to forcefully uphold laws. Slavery would have ended because the market would demanded it. #HowSWAY lol.

 

[the red model]

Da problem with this is "liberals" subscribe to "systemic racist oppression" that demonizes what you call "normal conservatives" that tend to vote or advocate for conservative policies and you'll just emd up calling em racist bigots anyway..

Ill give you an example. Voter ID laws.
Whats da problem? I got an ID, im a minority.. Dimelo? If voter ID laws are passed all of a sudden its "racist discrimination" and im like [emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]128580[/emoji]

Just because it doesn't hurt you, it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt someone who looks like you in another state somewhere. New Yorkers are somewhat coddled compared to minorities in other states. Try being Dominican in Mississippi.

NY has also had Republican mayors for the past 20 some odd years.

 

[SoleByThePound]

Famb you educate no one about nothing.

Don't delude yourself that the push back on your comments is because people can't handle a differing opinion, it is because you spew ignorance on all matters of importance.

And when you get check, you move goal post, deflect, dismmiss valid points, throw out red herrings, and construct straw men

 

[ben roethlisberger]

Whos libertarian policies?

Everything can sound good in a vaccum but the population is already programmed, most notably to consume beyond reason. Nothing good will come from libertarianism, socialism, anarchy, communism ect. if you try to apply it to the current population. Rules or policies are made to be sidesteped and more often than not we err on the side of greed and materialism. Imo systems of government ultimately depend on the purpose of life, and if there is no purpose then it doesnt really matter.

Repped.

I think that's why psychedelics were so revered in communities and society's in the past. Most recently the Native Americans. Those transcendent experiences most definitely give you a deeper perspective on collective and individual purpose. A religious or sacred psychedelic experience is one of the few tools we have that can penetrate our current subconscious operating system we function on today.

 

[ninjahood]

Da GOP doesn't play in identity politics....their platform is "if u do this___you'll win" it comes across as callus sometimes but thats what it is...whole bunch of other **** wrong with them but its WELL documented here thanks to da left side of da room.

Da problem with this is "liberals" subscribe to "systemic racist oppression" that demonizes what you call "normal conservatives" that tend to vote or advocate for conservative policies and you'll just emd up calling em racist bigots anyway..

Ill give you an example. Voter ID laws.
Whats da problem? I got an ID, im a minority.. Dimelo? If voter ID laws are passed all of a sudden its "racist discrimination" and im like [emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]128580[/emoji]

Just because it doesn't hurt you, it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt someone who looks like you in another state somewhere. New Yorkers are somewhat coddled compared to minorities in other states. Try being Dominican in Mississippi.

NY has also had Republican mayors for the past 20 some odd years.

my next point is eventually spooking people with racial demagoguery is going to have diminishing effect, because

eventually da war will be "over" and success will be reached if it hasn't already happened, just look at da feminist movement.... none of da young female bernie

supporters care about Clinton being a woman, they put their politics ahead of their vagina.

there's definitely a racial grievance industry that thrives and profits on that never happening.

every day there's alot more Ray Lewis type folks that sees their communities being tore apart and confused why his folks only get mad when a white

dude is doing them dirty, but not a peep when its their own doing it.

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Da GOP doesn't play in identity politics....their platform is "if u do this___you'll win"

 

[ninjahood]

 

Da GOP doesn't play in identity politics....their platform is "if u do this___you'll win"

in private im sure they all do polling is a billion dollar business. (southern strategy for da right, abortion issues for da left) but publicly? thats a left thing.

you telling me 99.999% of da time they're setting da tone on identiy politics? nah...they're usually on defense. Donald Trump is da 1st person i seen in my lifetime that's been able to overcome it better than anyone on da right.

 

[blco02]

Its EASY being a liberal... You just gotta pretend like you care, and dont worry about how demonstrable liberal polices actually are
Because da shield of "good intention" of social justice is next to godliness in its purity.

 

[RustyShackleford]

The GOP uses white identity politics, and employ the Southern strategy.

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

The GOP uses white identity politics, and employ the Southern strategy.

Exactlyyyyyy. Dudes wanna throw out da Reagan administration yesterday like they have any clue what they're talking about who was Reagan's adviser? Dog whistle ring a bell? Or perhaps welfare queen?

It's one thing to have a differing opinion but it's really some mental 5th graders up in this joint.

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

The demographics of Trump voters are interesting. Slightly over half of Trump supporters are female, about half are between 45 and 64 years of age with another 34 percent being over 65 years old and less than two percent younger than 30. 
One half of his voters have a high school education or less compared to 19 percent with a college or post-graduate degree.
 Slightly over one third of his supporters earn less than $50,000 per year while 11 percent earn over $100,000 per year.



Ignorance is easy, ignorance is bliss. 

Which would explain bigothood's support perfectly.

Age.... check
Barely a high school education....... check
Low earner........... check

 

[MVP]

Pudding in the proof is

 

[aepps20]

Da pudding is in da pops.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Pudding in the proof is

Da authentication is indeed in custard b. 

Yep, Da verification is in da mousse b

 

[whywesteppin]

[rihanna]da pruf is en da puh puh puh puh puhding[/rihanna]

 

[ninjahood]

It's easy being liberal? Donald Trump is running a sham campaign because a segment of this country are anencepathilitic (did this one for ninjahood). The Alabama, tea party conservatives like yourself get headaches when someone explains "institutionalized racism" to you, and you think being liberal is easy? 

Like i said...easy.

Just pretend to care as long as you got da minority black vote in da high 80% while
Institute policies that have done nothing to
Show for it for 50+ years..just as long as "meant well" *cough* shovel ready jobs *cough*

And do da same song and dance every 4 years..patronizing at its finest

Boy those 8 years of left policies sure helped his constituency out there...oh wait.
[emoji]128580[/emoji]

Lowest job participation since da 70's..just pretend to care though

 

[MVP]

That "low information" jab was 100% accurate.

 

[whywesteppin]

The Drumpf campaign's list of preferred national delegates distributed at the state convention on Saturday was riddled with errors and misspellings that only further hurt its chances.

Was it CBL2 who put together the list?

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29750206/angry-donald-trump-blasts-colorado-gop-results-totally

 

[ninjahood]

Gee more snubbish condescension..didn't see that one comin [emoji]128580[/emoji]

Far left Liberals are theoreticians that show a utter disdain to when their utopian views, crash and burn on da real world, and yet its someone how everyone ELSE's fault...

Sometimes i wish da left would get EVERYTHING they want, so when **** STILL go bad they can somehow find a way to blame Bush (as bad as he was) like 20 years later

20 trillion in Debt..anaemic GDP... Eff it elect Bernie, Nationalize everything lets go off that cliff real fast

 

[RustyShackleford]

Dude really is on clown status, his post are borderline trolling at this point.

We have had 8 years of left/demand side policies

Let's remember that Obama got handed the worst recession since the Great Depression, the GOP governors are blocking the Medicaid expansion in to South, he has been calling for criminal justice reform for years now, a jobs bill for years now. And you wanna play the "where have the left policies gotten you"

And the argument gets flipped on the head by looking at the Clinton years, but I'm sure he has a deflection for that too. He will probably just flip from economic to social
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And I'm sure if the black community had voted GOP for the last few decades things would have been peachy. Starting with Goldwater in 1964, and Nixon gave us the "War on Drugs" that targeted black folk, or Reagan dog whistles (and wanting get rid of stuff like the voting rights act, affirmative action, and his response to a crack epidemic he help fuel) , or Bush's lack of caring, or Jr.'s militarizing the police and municipal fines flourish under him

Yep, everything would be peachy if black just went ahead and supported the party that willingly abandoned moderation in favor of white supremacy policies.

Go read a dmab book Ninja. You need to gain prospective and empathy somehow

 

[RustyShackleford]

Gee more snubbish condescension..didn't see that one comin [emoji]128580[/emoji]

Far left Liberals are theoreticians that show a utter disdain to when their utopian views, crash and burn on da real world, and yet its someone how everyone ELSE's fault...

Sometimes i wish da left would get EVERYTHING they want, so when **** STILL go bad they can somehow find a way to blame Bush (as bad as he was) like 20 years later

20 trillion in Debt..anaemic GDP... Eff it elect Bernie, Nationalize everything lets go off that cliff real fast

We could be debt free if it was not for Bush Jr. actions

And last night, you weren't a deficit hawk when discussing Reagan.

Who exploded the National debt

Maybe you should start writing down your deflections so you don't look like such a hypocrite all the time

 

[ninjahood]

We owe 20 trillion dollars.

Obama DOUBLED da debt...AFTER Bush JR.

You seen Hillary's budget?

You seen Bernie's

Yo eff it..lets vote for bernie, free everything!

Black Reparations in da mail? Sure!

Highest corporate income tax in da world? Eff it its not high enuff..crank that to 60%..if taxes are good more is better right?

How is anyone gonna have anything left to invest and create new jobs? Who CARES! Let da government figure it out

Let Obama sign da TPP, who cares about ANYTHING other than NY & California..let fly over country return to da backwards hick dustbowl it always was...

Obamacare premiums bankrupting you? Who cares go on Medicaid... Im sure da whatever country that hasn't left overseas via corporate inversion will pick up da tab...

Lets open up those abortion laws..lets crank it all da way up to partial birth abortions no limits ALL 50 states.. Who cares about unborn children right? As long as i "care" about my women vote *cough* i mean body...

As long as i "care" im right..see? And if u disagree you're a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe.

its tooo easy.

 

[gwap]

lets start with low income entitlement programs like rent control