***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[rillo561]

I don't think people are ignoring the scandals, she's just viewed as the better alternative sadly. Also, they've never been charged or prosecuted. These scandals have been around forever, it's not hidden at all.

 

[wubalubadubdub]

I think alot of people are voting for her because they simply think sanders would get crushed in a general. We'll never know.

But these "journalists" are straight up mouth pieces for the establishment these days. **** ia disgusting. It's so obvious too. Not just on the liberal side and you may remember the media did a horrible job leading up to the iraq war.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Can you blame him after all the election fraud accusations? Nevada was a complete **** show and there's been tons of complains from Kentucky last night as well. I hope he keeps calling the DNC out on their BS. Preaching party unity when the party has tried to screw him over a number of times

Here comes all the crying and complaining from the Bernie supporters.........I love it!!

I wish I was making it up but it's been happening in multiple states,guess voter fraud is fine with you as long as it benefits Hillary . Look up the Nevada primaries for a shining example of American "democracy" at work"

You my brah, and Duece King is on some Nomad level nonsense right now

But Nevada is not a good example. I live in the state, the problems there stem problem the petulance of some Bernie Sanders supporters, not the Democratic Party trying to screw people over

If anything, Bernie's peoples were trying to screw Hillary over, got stopped, and things turned left

 

[deuce king]

I don't think people are ignoring the scandals, she's just viewed as the better alternative sadly. Also, they've never been charged or prosecuted. These scandals have been around forever, it's not hidden at all.

It's not like Bernie Sanders doesn't have a good message because he does, it's just that he simply doesn't have enough politicians currently in the system that either openly support him or have his same agenda. That's why I think it's pointless for people to even consider voting for Bernie because has no backers with him or inside already. Clinton does however. Gotta go with the winning hand.

 

[RustyShackleford]

People are calling Bernie the High Sparrow.

It fits, famb don't give a damn what anyone thinks, he has devout followers, and he wants to she the establishment burn.

 

[the red model]

 

[sundoobie]

But Nevada is not a good example. I live in the state, the problems there stem problem the petulance of some Bernie Sanders supporters, not the Democratic Party trying to screw people over

Are you kidding me? Look at this video, around the 4.30 mark, the NAYs were louder, but this Roberta Lange decided, screw the process, the temporary rules passed and you can't do anything about it. Truly pathetic by the establishment. Where is the standing vote per the rules? Nah screw it... they outta there and decided to call the police on em.

 

[RustyShackleford]

But Nevada is not a good example. I live in the state, the problems there stem problem the petulance of some Bernie Sanders supporters, not the Democratic Party trying to screw people over

Are you kidding me? Look at this video, around the 4.30 mark, the NAYs were louder, but this Roberta Lange decided, screw the process, the temporary rules passed and you can't do anything about it. Truly pathetic by the establishment.

Do you live in the state like me? Were you at the caucuses to see the nonsense Bernie supporters where pulling. Where you at the Clark County Convention when Bernie supporters mobbed the place to take away pledged delegates from Clinton. And didn't care because Clinton's delegates didn't show up

Did you even realize this jumped off because Bernie delegates didn't know some of the rules to the convention. And at the end of the day, all that happened was Hillary getting back the delegates that were taken from her at the county conventions.

Or are you just hoping on this wave for another opportunity to shade Hillary.

Nevada should have been a closed primary, Hillary would have won easily. The caucus system allowed Bernie to get more delegates, then his supporters tried to Jack more by catching Clinton delegates slipping. They couldn't pull it off at the state convention, and that's when **** started to turn left.

Not because people's voices were being suppressed by the DNC. Bernie supporters were trying to hold up the convention to go against the will of the Nevada voters.

Sorry, no tears from me

 

[RustyShackleford]

[thread="509493"]I guess that makes Hillary, Cersei Lannister. lol[/thread]

Debbie Schultz is Tommen, I can see Hillary giving her pep talks in private.

 

[sundoobie]

Do you live in the state like me? Were you at the caucuses to see the nonsense Bernie supporters where pulling. Where you at the Clark County Convention when Bernie supporters mobbed the place to take away pledged delegates from Clinton. And didn't care because Clinton's delegates didn't show up

Did you even realize this jumped off because Bernie delegates didn't know some of the rules to the convention. And at the end of the day, all that happened was Hillary getting back the delegates that were taken from her at the county conventions.

Or are you just hoping on this wave for another opportunity to shade Hillary.

Nevada should have been a closed primary, Hillary would have won easily. The caucus system allowed Bernie to get more delegates, then his supporters tried to Jack more by catching Clinton delegates slipping. They couldn't pull it off at the state convention, and that's when **** started to turn left.

Not because people's voices were being suppressed by the DNC. Bernie supporters were trying to hold up the convention to go against the will of the Nevada voters.

Sorry, no tears from me

* The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.

* The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.

* The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.

* The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.

You were saying?

 

[the red model]

Debbie Schultz is Tommen, I can see Hillary giving her pep talks in private.

Ah man, I feel bad for Tommen. 

 

[osh kosh bosh]

It's rich to hear Sanders supporters complaining about the rules suppressing votes when a big portion of Sanders success comes from the voter suppressing byzantine rules of Caucuses.


Sanders has done well, unfortunately democrats (especially non white ones) seem to like Hilary a little bit more.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Reposting cuz it's still being talked about.


http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/nevad...lection-fraud-jason-llanes-periscope-youtube/

http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/nevad...legates-election-fraud-videos-recount-denied/

 

[ninjahood]

It's rich to hear Sanders supporters complaining about the rules suppressing votes when a big portion of Sanders success comes from the voter suppressing byzantine rules of Caucuses.


Sanders has done well, unfortunately democrats (especially superdelegate establishment ones) seem to like Hilary a little bit more.

Fixed.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Do you live in the state like me? Were you at the caucuses to see the nonsense Bernie supporters where pulling. Where you at the Clark County Convention when Bernie supporters mobbed the place to take away pledged delegates from Clinton. And didn't care because Clinton's delegates didn't show up

Did you even realize this jumped off because Bernie delegates didn't know some of the rules to the convention. And at the end of the day, all that happened was Hillary getting back the delegates that were taken from her at the county conventions.

Or are you just hoping on this wave for another opportunity to shade Hillary.

Nevada should have been a closed primary, Hillary would have won easily. The caucus system allowed Bernie to get more delegates, then his supporters tried to Jack more by catching Clinton delegates slipping. They couldn't pull it off at the state convention, and that's when **** started to turn left.

Not because people's voices were being suppressed by the DNC. Bernie supporters were trying to hold up the convention to go against the will of the Nevada voters.

Sorry, no tears from me

* The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.

* The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.

* The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.

* The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.

You were saying?

Oh, so we're just gonna ignore that these people end game was to steal delegates from Clinton

Think for a minute if they got everything they wanted at that convention, what their end game was.

For the delegate count to differ that what was decided at the state wide caucus months ago

So yeah, no tears.

 

[sundoobie]

The end game is about being fair which obviously is not in favor for the Sander's Campaign.

But hey let's forget the simple FACT that the Democrat base awarded her how many SUPER DELEGATES prior to a single vote being cast?

Here's a HIllary fact for today

Clinton made at least 94 appearances before corporate and other special interests between 2013 and 2015, earning more than $21.6 million for her services. A review of federal records, regulatory filings and correspondence by The Associated Press showed that almost all the 82 corporations, trade associations and other groups that paid for or sponsored Clinton’s speeches have actively sought to sway the government—lobbying, bidding for contracts, commenting on federal policy and in some cases contacting State Department officials or Clinton herself during her tenure as secretary of state.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I don't understand the hyperventilating over super delegates.

They aren't going to defy the will of the people.




The republican party has an insurrection on their hands and most of the party operatives were skittish on trying to hijack the nomination form Trump.


Why would they try and take it from HIlary when she will have the majority of the delegates?

 

[RustyShackleford]

The end game is about being fair which obviously is not in favor for the Sander's Campaign.

But hey let's forget the simple FACT that the Democrat base awarded her how many SUPER DELEGATES prior to a single vote being cast?

Here's a HIllary fact for today

Clinton made at least 94 appearances before corporate and other special interests between 2013 and 2015, earning more than $21.6 million for her services. A review of federal records, regulatory filings and correspondence by The Associated Press showed that almost all the 82 corporations, trade associations and other groups that paid for or sponsored Clinton’s speeches have actively sought to sway the government—lobbying, bidding for contracts, commenting on federal policy and in some cases contacting State Department officials or Clinton herself during her tenure as secretary of state.

What a damn deflection. I live in the state, the end game was to finesse the delegate selection process to steal pledged delegates that Hillary won months ago from her. And I'm supposed to be upset they got stopped at the convention

I woke voted for Bernie in the caucus, but those results should stand. And Bernie delegates where trying to change that.

You hate Hillary, fine. But that shouldn't blind you to what these people were trying to pull.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Hillary Clinton has one more pledged delegates, and won the popular vote.

If every primary was closed, probably the fairest system, she would be beating Bernie by more.

Superdelegates are not going against the will of the people. For good or bad, the will of the people is for Hillary to be the nominee.

This suggestion she is stealing the election is nonsense

 

[blco02]

 

[deleted]

"Fox News Poll"

 

[wubalubadubdub]

Lol at that high sparrow/bernie comparison. Kinda fits.

 

[blco02]

"Fox News Poll"

http://bloom.bg/1NRZ1hf

The Fox polls have been the second most accurate polls in 2016-93% accurate.

 

[ninjahood]

"Fox News Poll"

http://bloom.bg/1NRZ1hf

The Fox polls have been the second most accurate polls in 2016-93% accurate.

Once da *cough* liberal polls start showing da writings on da wall it should get real interesting here.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

"Fox News Poll"

Fox news according to 538 has got only a slight republican lean R+0.5.

it's not extremely biased. ()tho some people have problems with their methodology.)


Its not biased, but its not predictive either, studies have been done on this, looking at general election polls in may is a waste of time. its a single data point.



they are not predictive.


If you are afraid of Trump, now is not the time to be worrying, and if you are in favor of him, now is not the time to be crowing.