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I'm going with impeached by 2019. 2 years of pence would be dreadful though.

But him getting impeached seems realistic to me if he doesn't like the responsibilities of being president or he thinks he's taking the L in 2020. Can't see him bowing out gracefully.

Would allow him to play that "establishment screwed me" card and save face amongst his supporters and keep them angry. And he could say he was never defeated in an election. Kinda a smart move on his end when I think about it.
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Going from hearing Obama speak to this ******* idiot is a jarring change.

This is some truly sad **** to witness.

It is like reading a Rex post, and then a Ninja analogy filled post back to back.

Going from eloquence to ignorance is hard to get adjusted to
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impeachment is not enough.

like i've said before, his entire family and the entire deplorable/alt-right movement needs to be destroyed. financially, emotionally, politically, intellectually.
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Zephyr Teachout @ZephyrTeachout 3h3 hours ago

Donald Trump is not selling his businesses. Therefore, he will be violating the foreign bribery/emoluments clause of the Constitution.

 
 
Benjy Sarlin @BenjySarlin 3h3 hours ago

Ethics lawyer I went over Trump plan with just now literally laughed out loud. No divestment, no blind trust, ongoing constitutional issues.

 
 
Benjy Sarlin @BenjySarlin 3h3 hours ago

The basic problem: Trump still owns company and sons still run it. You can line Trump's pockets through his company, period.

 

 

Benjy Sarlin @BenjySarlin 2h2 hours ago

As @chucktodd notes, Trump implied at end he would one day return to Trump Org. So anything that benefits it eventually benefits him.

 

Benjy Sarlin @BenjySarlin 3h3 hours ago

Trump says he was just offered a $2 billion deal by a foreign actor to REASSURE us about conflicts?

 

 

 

 

Mark Murray @mmurraypolitics 2h2 hours ago

Mark Murray Retweeted Ken Thomas

This also was a stunning admission from the Trump presser. What other foreign entities/governments offered deals after Nov. 8?https://twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/819244081322872832 

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DUBAI, UAE (AP) - Dubai's DAMAC Properties confirms to AP it offered $2B in deals to Trump Organization, which rejected them.
 
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The Chicago Cubs will be the last championship team to visit the Obama White House.

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Cory Booker just launch his 2020 campaign.

Like I said before, white progressives are playing themselves with the identity politics thing. Booker gonna have the entire black vote riding for him.

I have my hesitations about him, but if he makes criminal justice reform central to his movement and campaign, then the message of economic populism from Bernie 2.0 might be loss on me, and millions of black people. Especially after 4 years of Trump and Sessions
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Do you know this whole argument started because we were saying that some people DON"T have health insurance so we need a system to takecare of everyone, and Rico's answer to that was to save 6 months salary in case they get cancer. He used his dad as an example.

When I called him out on this example, he admitted his dad has health insurance through his Federal government job (so chances are it is great insurance). He was just deflecting with a nonsense example.

Also Rico is in favor of repealing Obamacare making it almost impossible for regular people to even by a private plan, and if you're diagnosed with cancer, no one is covering you.

-As far as rent. I Rico lives in a one bedroom apartment in Northern Virginia. He is prideful in this, which is cool. He used to insult me and my family by saying that we needed handouts, and because I moved out of Southern Maryland, I must have been priced out of the area.

He also wants to cut social programs (food stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.) , because the thing he looks for first and foremost in a national politician is who will cut his taxes. Damb everyone esle

So before you defend Rico, just know the kinda of person he has been, and the nonsense he has spewed.

This is what kicked this off, and why people are coming at him. Because he uses ridiculous anecdotal evidence to deflect serious questions.

All your paragraphs don't negate the fact that I do indeed have a valid point. You trying to bury me under the **** you disagree with doesn't take away that fact. And what do you mean by "regular people" because my immigrant father from Jamaica and mother from a Bronx housing project made it to the upper middle class they are suddenly abnormal?? They worked their ***** off and gave my sister and I a life they never had. You try to send shots at me because I've seen the American dream and know what it takes to attain it. It is not difficult. It takes discipline and hard work. But you all seem to believe that those are finite attributes. ******* ridiculous. Shame on you Rusty for trying to disparage someone from agreeing with Mr because you don't agree with my common sense practices.

And once again, I NEVER said six months of salary would cure cancer. It had to be partnered with health insurance which your budget should include.
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Watched Obama's final speech with my mom earlier. In my entire 22 years I don't think I've ever seen her upset at a politician leaving office, much less a foreign one. But Obama and Michelle are the exception. Not just because Trump will be replacing him either, she said the same when she figured Hillary would win.

She doesn't really follow foreign politics like I do, but I think it's remarkable how a foreign president can have such an effect simply through his charisma. 

I don't agree with everything he did in his 2 terms, particularly drone strikes and Libya for example, but I will undoubtedly miss Obama and Michelle too.

I'm still hoping they visit Belgium again for a public speaking session so I can get another chance at attending.

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Do you know this whole argument started because we were saying that some people DON"T have health insurance so we need a system to takecare of everyone, and Rico's answer to that was to save 6 months salary in case they get cancer. He used his dad as an example.

When I called him out on this example, he admitted his dad has health insurance through his Federal government job (so chances are it is great insurance). He was just deflecting with a nonsense example.

Also Rico is in favor of repealing Obamacare making it almost impossible for regular people to even by a private plan, and if you're diagnosed with cancer, no one is covering you.

-As far as rent. I Rico lives in a one bedroom apartment in Northern Virginia. He is prideful in this, which is cool. He used to insult me and my family by saying that we needed handouts, and because I moved out of Southern Maryland, I must have been priced out of the area.

He also wants to cut social programs (food stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.) , because the thing he looks for first and foremost in a national politician is who will cut his taxes. Damb everyone esle

So before you defend Rico, just know the kinda of person he has been, and the nonsense he has spewed.

This is what kicked this off, and why people are coming at him. Because he uses ridiculous anecdotal evidence to deflect serious questions.

All your paragraphs don't negate the fact that I do indeed have a valid point. You trying to bury me under the **** you disagree with doesn't take away that fact. And what do you mean by "regular people" because my immigrant father from Jamaica and mother from a Bronx housing project made it to the upper middle class they are suddenly abnormal?? They worked their ***** off and gave my sister and I a life they never had. You try to send shots at me because I've seen the American dream and know what it takes to attain it. It is not difficult. It takes discipline and hard work. But you all seem to believe that those are finite attributes. ******* ridiculous. Shame on you Rusty for trying to disparage someone from agreeing with Mr because you don't agree with my common sense practices.

And once again, I NEVER said six months of salary would cure cancer. It had to be partnered with health insurance which your budget should include.

You did not make a valid point, you pedal a deflection to not address the topic at hand. You sat wanting to strip the context of your words to make yourself look reasonable. Stop it.

I said people don't have health insurance, I you said they should save six months salary to get it, and you used your dad as an example (knowing he has health insurance). It was a childish intellectually dishonest deflection.

Rico, no where did I attack you personally or your family, I am giving context to your words by using your own actions on NT. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE FAMILY LINE WITH ME BEFORE. Stop trying to play victim and grab the moral high ground. You troll, and antagonize on purpose. Especially when it comes to me.

I am using your own word on NT against you. If you have such an issue with me doing that, learn to make cogent reasonable argument. Not flimsy dismissive post.
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All your paragraphs don't negate the fact that I do indeed have a valid point. You trying to bury me under the **** you disagree with doesn't take away that fact. And what do you mean by "regular people" because my immigrant father from Jamaica and mother from a Bronx housing project made it to the upper middle class they are suddenly abnormal?? They worked their ***** off and gave my sister and I a life they never had. You try to send shots at me because I've seen the American dream and know what it takes to attain it. It is not difficult. It takes discipline and hard work. But you all seem to believe that those are finite attributes. ******* ridiculous. Shame on you Rusty for trying to disparage someone from agreeing with Mr because you don't agree with my common sense practices.

And once again, I NEVER said six months of salary would cure cancer. It had to be partnered with health insurance which your budget should include.

Nobody here believes that hard work and discipline aren't integral to succeeding in life. But there are roadblocks for some people, despite possessing those two qualities to the fullest extent. You being successful through hard work and discipline does not mean that everyone who doesn't attain the same success is lacking in their work and discipline efforts. There are so many various factors when it comes to succeeding in life that the model of "pulling yourself up by da bootstraps" is deeply flawed and simplistic. If hard work and discipline were the only things required to succeed there wouldn't be so many people struggling to make ends meet despite working hard. Maybe they did not receive the economic opportunities that others have, or are plagued by disease and medical costs, ... That list can go on and on.

I don't think anyone here is trying to take away or disparage your success, they would be wrong to do so if they did. But it needs to be said that your model of success is not applicable to every single person. You apply your own experiences, an anecdote, to a very large and complex topic.

You have explicitly stated that you only care about how policies affect you personally, correct? Would you not agree that could limit your perspective on the key to success?

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Hahahahaha, I was just asked by a booking agent if I would consider djing at one of the inaugural balls for #trump... Hahahahaha, wait, Hahahaha, really? I guess I'd DJ at an inaugural ball if as payment #trump released his tax returns. Also I would probably play public enemy and stockhausen remixes to entertain the republicans. I'm still laughing. Hahahaha. So #trump what do you think, I DJ for you and you release your tax returns?
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Rico crying about imaginary attacks against his immigrant parents.

Yet when he was telling me to leave America and go back to my own country if I couldn't name something I loved about it, his care for immigrants was surprisingly absent.

Just stop Rico, stop trying to climb up that high horse
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Rico crying about imaginary attacks against his immigrant parents.

Yet when he was telling me to leave America and go back to my own country if I couldn't name something I loved about it, his care for immigrants was surprisingly absent.
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Nobody here believes that hard work and discipline aren't integral to succeeding in life. But there are roadblocks for some people, despite possessing those two qualities to the fullest extent. You being successful through hard work and discipline does not mean that everyone who doesn't attain the same success is lacking in their work and discipline efforts. There are so many various factors when it comes to succeeding in life that the model of "pulling yourself up by da bootstraps" is deeply flawed and simplistic. If hard work and discipline were the only things required to succeed there wouldn't be so many people struggling to make ends meet despite working hard. Maybe they did not receive the economic opportunities that others have, or are plagued by disease and medical costs, ... That list can go on and on.
I don't think anyone here is trying to take away or disparage your success, they would be wrong to do so if they did. But it needs to be said that your model of success is not applicable to every single person. You apply your own experiences, an anecdote, to a very large and complex topic.
You have explicitly stated that you only care about how policies affect you personally, correct? Would you not agree that could limit your perspective on the key to success?

First off it's not my success. It's my parents. They worked hard. I'm workING hard. I'll never take their success as my own. And I believe that you all live in a world where you think everyone is supposed to be successful. That's not reality. There will always be winners and lowers. Haves and have not. For those that have kids or younger siblings or even someone you mentor,I'm sure you always have an example of a person that they should not become. It's life.

All these roadblocks and adversities that people need to overcome to flourish are just a part of life. But individuals can make it through without being on the tax payers teat. People have literally been doing for years.

The problem with you all is that you want to help EVERYBODY. And that's the flaw in liberal logic. Everybody is not meant to be successful, it's not a right,it's a privilege.

My future is very uncertain I still have no degree and not in the field I want. But my beliefs are what keep me going because I've seen it and lived it. At my age my parents were still living with theirs so I'm already ahead, or possibly behind depending on how you view the financial toll. But whatever. We create our own destinies and forge our own paths. Nobody should care about you more than you do.
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You are selfish as hell man.
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I'm starting to remember why I've avoided this thread since about September.

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Having health insurance, decent schools, or food on your plate your not be tied to your job success.

That is the flaw in your logic. You're so damn selfish at your don't even feel the need to guarantee society the essentials they need to live.

You don't understand economics, So let be point something out to you. You want a productive society that will grow the economy and that doesn't need to rely on the government for everything, then at least make sure they are healthy, educated and not hungry.

There are some areas of society where free market capitalism simply doesn't work. Especially if there is an underlying public policy goal.The same is true of socialism

-And it is damb hypocritical for you to complain about big government want to strip people of their health insurance , when your damb dad has a government job and his health insurance provided by the government saved his life. The irony and arrogance
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First off it's not my success. It's my parents. They worked hard. I'm workING hard. I'll never take their success as my own. And I believe that you all live in a world where you think everyone is supposed to be successful. That's not reality. There will always be winners and lowers. Haves and have not. For those that have kids or younger siblings or even someone you mentor,I'm sure you always have an example of a person that they should not become. It's life.

All these roadblocks and adversities that people need to overcome to flourish are just a part of life. But individuals can make it through without being on the tax payers teat. People have literally been doing for years.

The problem with you all is that you want to help EVERYBODY. And that's the flaw in liberal logic. Everybody is not meant to be successful, it's not a right,it's a privilege.

My future is very uncertain I still have no degree and not in the field I want. But my beliefs are what keep me going because I've seen it and lived it. At my age my parents were still living with theirs so I'm already ahead, or possibly behind depending on how you view the financial toll. But whatever. We create our own destinies and forge our own paths. Nobody should care about you more than you do.

 

 

The issue with this is your solution, you have to admit, is not the end all solution. Working harder is not going to fix everything, saving is not possible for everyone. Most people in here just want you to admit that alone, not that your parent's success is a super rare thing or occurrence but that although what they did can fix some other's situations it's no universal and that there are other factors at play

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I agree with the not everyone is meant to be successful though, that's why I was laughing at the white folks in the Midwest crying about their outdated factory and coal jobs. Taxpayers money doesn't need to be spent bribing Carrier to delay the inevitable, or house your mom in a Bronx housing project.
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I agree with the not everyone is meant to be successful though, that's why I was laughing at the white folks in the Midwest crying about their outdated factory and coal jobs. Taxpayers money doesn't need to be spent bribing Carrier to delay the inevitable, or house your mom in a Bronx housing project.

I mean, of course not. But I think Rico is missing the point here. It's not about everyone being successful, it's about everyone having an equal opportunity to be successful.

 

And federal aide isn't meant to make someone successful. In most cases, it's meant to provide a lot of the basic things we take for granted on a daily basis.

 

What boggles my mind is how someone who has seen both sides could flip once they get to a certain point. Rico's mother apparently benefited from public housing. I'm not sure if he's willing to acknowledge that the subsidized rent helped his mother get to the point she's at today.


Edited by HarlemToTheBronx - 1/11/17 at 12:39pm
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I mean, of course not. But I think Rico is missing the point here. It's not about everyone being successful, it's about everyone having an equal opportunity to be successful.

He'll never see that because he doesn't have empathy, he's made that readily apparent over the years.
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Rico once took issue with public infrastructure. When someone complains about services they use everyday for cheap, that helps makes their quality of life possible, know they are full of it.

If Rico was the nation's central planner, he would crash the economy within a year. Some of his views are that short sighted, and with all due respect, asinine
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