***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[luckyluchiano]

Race is just a part of the overall system of classism and how elites pit the poor against each other to distract them from the big problems of disparity between wealth and human rights
You guys are just seeing in a North American and European context
In ancient China, there was no different types of race, but there was still inequality that existed as those who were considered the "mean class" were heavily discriminated against, and these are people of the same race.
At the end of the day, the human race will always be subjugated to classism. Race is a byproduct of that current human system.

Miss me with the classism bull lol "Rich" Non White people are still victims of Racism Systematic White Supremacy.

Why Poor Whites act as pawns to wealthy whites is their problem not mine.

 

[daddy style]

Race is just a part of the overall system of classism and how elites pit the poor against each other to distract them from the big problems of disparity between wealth and human rights
You guys are just seeing in a North American and European context
In ancient China, there was no different types of race, but there was still inequality that existed as those who were considered the "mean class" were heavily discriminated against, and these are people of the same race.
At the end of the day, the human race will always be subjugated to classism. Race is a byproduct of that current human system.

White patriarchal supremacy is a whole different animal, pun intended

 

[deleted]

So you think black people can be racist. Do tell how.

There is a difference between individual racism and institutional racism

And even if there were not, you still have the belief that people who look like you are the only people who matter

That is the foundation of every bigot's worldview

 

[whywesteppin]

being scientific about this, define "white people." are you going by something genetic, or is it just based on phenotype (skin lightness/post-Dangerous Michael Jackson)? are we including Mediterranean people? mixed ethnicity? where would we classify Spaniards and many Arabs who are heavily mixed?

and that begs the question: are we positing that the genes that control skin color are also linked to whatever behavioral anomaly leads to this natural racism? or are you guys postulating a more complex (but i admit a much cooler!) theory where behavioral traits arise from social interactions among mixed color participants (emergent properties!)? but then that begs another question -- why would those traits be exclusive to white skin color?

this is fascinating and i would like to hear your deep thoughts.

or are you just peddling the same pseudoscientific ******** that people used to justify slavery, the Holocaust, and all the evil in this world? if so, [redacted]

and just to be clear --- i fully understand that racism and white supremacy are prevalent. but when you try to peg it on some inherent trait of some people, you fall off the cliff of intellectual integrity pretty damn fast.

 

[EddieDoyers]

Race is just a part of the overall system of classism and how elites pit the poor against each other to distract them from the big problems of disparity between wealth and human rights
You guys are just seeing in a North American and European context
In ancient China, there was no different types of race, but there was still inequality that existed as those who were considered the "mean class" were heavily discriminated against, and these are people of the same race.
At the end of the day, the human race will always be subjugated to classism. Race is a byproduct of that current human system.

Miss me with the classism bull lol "Rich" Non White people are still victims of Racism Systematic White Supremacy.

Why Poor Whites act as pawns to wealthy whites is their problem not mine.

You missed my entire point. I'm not saying poor whites are victims. I was referring to the argument over whether the elimination of the white race would lead to equality, which still wouldn't happen. Just look at the many black elites that don't mingle or turn away the poor black class aka mostly Black Republicans
The elites will always find whatever necessary to put down the regular folks even of their own kind

 

[daddy style]

There is a difference between individual racism and institutional racism

And even if there were not, you still have the belief that people who look like you are the only people who matter

That is the foundation of every bigot's worldview

Lies. I see you. If you understand that racism is about white patriarchal rule, then you understand that the reactions to such rule aren't racist or bigoted it is reactionary. You are trying to excuse white patriarchal rule in your explanation, and that is unfortunate. You do not have to forgive your oppressors, that is what christianity taught the world, turn the other cheek, so that you wont fight back. White patriarchal does not play by such rules, and neither do the ancestors.

 

[RustyShackleford]

So white people are naturally racist? That is what you're saying?

I'm quite sure history echoes the same sentiment. Don't take my word for it.

Trust me, I wasn't planning on taking your word for it.

And I don't consider history as proof of pseudoscience. Your claim sounds just as ridiculous as the racist white your are so comfortable with, claiming black people are naturally violent.

 

[illmatic34]

well this thread has jumped the shark.

And largely without Ninjahood's involvement, surprisingly

 

[EddieDoyers]

Race is just a part of the overall system of classism and how elites pit the poor against each other to distract them from the big problems of disparity between wealth and human rights
You guys are just seeing in a North American and European context
In ancient China, there was no different types of race, but there was still inequality that existed as those who were considered the "mean class" were heavily discriminated against, and these are people of the same race.
At the end of the day, the human race will always be subjugated to classism. Race is a byproduct of that current human system.

White patriarchal supremacy is a whole different animal, pun intended

It is
But my point was that even if you were to eliminate the racial construct, the class system would still be in place
Again, not an excuse for white supremacy, but fighting racism is only part of the battle of achieving freedom and liberation from discrimination for everyone.

 

[daddy style]

Trust me, I wasn't planning on taking your world for it.

And I don't conciser history as proof of pseudoscience. Your claim sounds just as ridiculous as the racist white your are so comfortable with, claiming black people are naturally violent.

That is christianity talking in you, and that is a serious problem for you intellectually in regard to this topic. White people hold the cards, and they are not looking for fairness, no matter how much of a good guy you seem to be. I am not telling you to hate anyone, I am simply saying be aware of how much you are willing to bend.

 

[daddy style]

It is
But my point was that even if you were to eliminate the racial construct, the class system would still be in place
Again, not an excuse for white supremacy, but fighting racism is only part of the battle of achieving freedom and liberation from discrimination for everyone.

Are you black?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Trust me, I wasn't planning on taking your world for it.

And I don't conciser history as proof of pseudoscience. Your claim sounds just as ridiculous as the racist white your are so comfortable with, claiming black people are naturally violent.

That is christianity talking in you, and that is a serious problem for you intellectually in regard to this topic. White people hold the cards, and they are not looking for fairness, no matter how much of a good guy you seem to be. I am not telling you to hate anyone, I am simply saying be aware of how much you are willing to bend.

Miss me with this Christianity red herring.

I am not a christian.

Like I said before, you're more interested in talking down and past people that dialoging with dudes who until this point have been on the same side of the arguemnt

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Can't lie, this thread depresses me

 

[EddieDoyers]

It is
But my point was that even if you were to eliminate the racial construct, the class system would still be in place
Again, not an excuse for white supremacy, but fighting racism is only part of the battle of achieving freedom and liberation from discrimination for everyone.

Are you black?

I'm not black or white.

 

[daddy style]

Miss me with this Christianity red herring.

I am not a christian.

Like I said before, you're more interested in talking down and past people that dialoging with dudes who until this point have been on the same side of the arguemnt

You may not be christian, but the way western society is controlled, you are taught to think like one. This is done through law, social norms, even advertising. I am not judging you, but forgivness is and wanting everyone to be fair is. Christian thinking.

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Trust me, I wasn't planning on taking your word for it.

And I don't consider history as proof of pseudoscience. Your claim sounds just as ridiculous as the racist white your are so comfortable with, claiming black people are naturally violent.

Meh. I could care less tbh. You asked & I answered. It is not imperative that our ideologies agree. I will say though that history is a lot similar to mine than the brainwash you're pushing. Again, don't take my word for it. Hop in them books

 

[whywesteppin]

It is
But my point was that even if you were to eliminate the racial construct, the class system would still be in place
Again, not an excuse for white supremacy, but fighting racism is only part of the battle of achieving freedom and liberation from discrimination for everyone.

Are you black?

I'm not black or white.

But, if you're thinkin' about my baby
It don't matter if you're black or white

but wait, if you're neither black nor white, then i don't know

 

[RustyShackleford]

Trust me, I wasn't planning on taking your word for it.

And I don't consider history as proof of pseudoscience. Your claim sounds just as ridiculous as the racist white your are so comfortable with, claiming black people are naturally violent.

Meh. I could care less tbh. You asked & I answered. It is not imperative that our ideologies agree. I will say though that history is a lot similar to mine than the brainwash you're pushing. Again, don't take my word for it. Hop in them books

Link me a peer reviewed biology books confirms this nonsense, and I will be happy to read it

 

[Based Jesus]

Can't lie, this thread depresses me

This thread is fine. Some of the opinions expressed in it aren't.

 

[deleted]

Lies. I see you. If you understand that racism is about white patriarchal rule, then you understand that the reactions to such rule aren't racist or bigoted it is reactionary. You are trying to excuse white patriarchal rule in your explanation, and that is unfortunate. You do not have to forgive your oppressors, that is what christianity taught the world, turn the other cheek, so that you wont fight back. White patriarchal does not play by such rules, and neither do the ancestors.

No one is trying to excuse white supremacy.

I'm not in the business of downplaying injustices because the victims aren't like me. I'll leave that to you and Titanium Tea.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Miss me with this Christianity red herring.

I am not a christian.

Like I said before, you're more interested in talking down and past people that dialoging with dudes who until this point have been on the same side of the arguemnt

You may not be christian, but the way western society is controlled, you are taught to think like one. This is done through law, social norms, even advertising. I am not judging you, but forgivness is and wanting everyone to be fair is. Christian thinking.

Dude, just spare me this nonsense.

The only angle you have left in this argument is dismiss everyone else's views because they must be brainwashed in some way, because they don't think like you, or practice your religion.

Btw, what religion should be practicing, to free us from the Christian way of thinking?

 

[daddy style]

I'm not black or white.

Then you cannot have an opinion on how Black people should respond to white patriarchal rule. What is your racial background? Perhaps you may want to discuss what racial harmony means to you, but you cannot tell others what they should want. Black people have had too many hands in their kitchen, too many have climb their back toward freedom. It is time for Black people to thunk for themselves, reconnecting with their origins. Throughout Asia ancesral worship is real, Black people have a right to do the same.

 

[daddy style]

No one is trying to excuse white supremacy.

I'm not in the business of downplaying injustices because the victims aren't like me. I'll leave that to you and Titanium Tea.

...and straddling the fence doesn't make you any better than ninjahood. Hopefully the mirror does not leave you just as confused...[emoji]128521[/emoji]

 

[RustyShackleford]

No one is trying to excuse white supremacy.

I'm not in the business of downplaying injustices because the victims aren't like me. I'll leave that to you and Titanium Tea.

...and straddling the fence doesn't make you any better than ninjahood. Hopefully the mirror does not leave you just as confused...[emoji]128521[/emoji]

And being cool with white people catching the same hell that black people have been catching (hell the obviously angers you), and justifying hatred towards white people, puts you a level below Ninja.

 

[moe fab]

What the hell did yall do in here?

Anywho, all races are welkome in our California utopia...until we build our wall to keep amerikans out