***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[oneilmatt]

Funny that a dude with "O'neil" as part of his name would be bigoted towards certain groups, while his all of his people were labeled as illiterate drunkards and criminals for most of US history due to Irish being the most arrested and imprisoned population in the country.

I choose to not be angry about the horrific treatment my ancestors suffered in the last century or so. Even though nobody in here acknowledges those injustices. Literally pointless.

 

[northoaklandfc]

Funny that a dude with "O'neil" as part of his name would be bigoted towards certain groups, while his all of his people were labeled as illiterate drunkards and criminals for most of US history due to Irish being the most arrested and imprisoned population in the country.

I choose to not be angry about the horrific treatment my ancestors suffered in the last century or so. Even though nobody in here acknowledges those injustices. Literally pointless.

He LITERALLY just acknowledged it in the post you quoted you vile racist.

 

[AEA18]

 

[seandon23]

 

[everysingletime]

That dude can't read lmfao

 

[EddieDoyers]

Lol I cant wait for what's next
#alllivesmatter or #whitelivesmattertoo ?

 

[handullz]

Funny that a dude with "O'neil" as part of his name would be bigoted towards certain groups, while all of his people were labeled as illiterate drunkards,criminals, and rapists for most of US history due to Irish being the most arrested and imprisoned population in the country at one point. Sounds so familiar to the language used to describe black people, Mexicans, and Muslims.

Might have a lobo to my beats situation here.


Been reading it as "one ill Matt"

 

[rolaholic]

You're not the only one

 

[d nice]

And he's a Gooner

Jesus take the wheel

 

 

[everysingletime]

Why do conservatives have a hard time reading?

Just seems to be a trend in this thread.

Everyone of then don't even seem to read the posts they quote sometimes. Not reading their own links.

Lmfao damn homies cmon

 

[Based Jesus]

You're not the only one

I was too. O'neil makes much more sense 

 

 

[MVP]

He LITERALLY just acknowledged it in the post you quoted you vile racist.

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And somebody literally just chastised him for his reading comprehension last page I think.

 

[sfc415]

I choose to not be angry about the horrific treatment my ancestors suffered in the last century or so. Even though nobody in here acknowledges those injustices. Literally pointless.

You know that Irish are still discriminated against TODAY right? The Irish people that are protesting against this discrimination must be cry baby libs. @#$@ them, right? Or is it only wrong to protest when groups other than your group are discriminated against?

 

[rolaholic]

And he's a Gooner :x

Jesus take the wheel  

He's the dude who inspired psk to coin the term "oompa loompa"

 

[Master Zik]

come back when you get your reading comprehension up brah

What an intelligent response. Is that the only thing you say? Keep insulting my "comprehension" and maybe noboy will notice how poor yours is.

It's not an insult if it's true.

 

[d nice]

He's the dude who inspired psk to coin the term "oompa loompa"

L's on top of L's

 

Can't spell O'neil without the L

 

 

[northoaklandfc]

He LITERALLY just acknowledged it in the post you quoted you vile racist.

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And somebody literally just chastised him for his reading comprehension last page I think.

I just got warned for taking too harsh a tone with NT's resident Uncle Ruckus rico x hood but God damn these bigots and Toms make it difficult to be respectful.

 

[sfc415]

Damn SJW, liberal, cry baby, butt blasted Irish (oneilmatt's words and logic, not mine). How dare they protest?

In December 2014 British broadcaster Channel 4 caused an "outrage" and "fury" in Ireland and the UK when it planned a comedy series about the Irish Famine. The situation comedy, named Hungry, was announced by writer Hugh Travers, who said “we’re kind of thinking of it as Shameless in famine Ireland.” The response in Ireland was quick and negative: “Jewish people would never endorse making a comedy of the mass extermination of their ancestors at the hands of the Nazis, Cambodians would never support people laughing at what happened to their people at the hands of the Khmer Rouge and the people of Somalia, Ethiopia or Sudan would never accept the plight of their people, through generational famine, being the source of humour in Britain,” Dublin councillor David McGuinness said. “I am not surprised that it is a British television outlet funding this venture.”

The writer defended the concept saying, "Comedy equals tragedy plus time."[48][49] It is reported that thousands of people signed an online petition protesting against the proposed series. The petition stated: 'Famine or genocide is no laughing matter, approximately one million Irish people died and another two million were forced to emigrate because they were starving...Any programme on this issue would have to be of serious historical context... not a comedy.'[5 Channel 4 issued a press release stating that “This in the development process and is not currently planned to air... It’s not unusual for sitcoms to exist against backdrops that are full of adversity and hardship”.[51] Protesters planned to picket the offices of Channel 4 and campaigners called the proposed show 'institutionalised anti-Irish racism'.[52]

 

[Peep Game]

Why do conservatives have a hard time reading?

Just seems to be a trend in this thread.

Everyone of then don't even seem to read the posts they quote sometimes. Not reading their own links.

Lmfao damn homies cmon

Why actually read, when you can just bend a bunch of facts to fit whatever story you need to fit it at that moment??

 

[Belgium]

 
I choose to not be angry about the horrific treatment my ancestors suffered in the last century or so. Even though nobody in here acknowledges those injustices. Literally pointless.

It was literally acknowledged in the post you quoted.

Everyone with the slightest knowledge of US history knows how horribly the Irish were treated. You will find none denying that here, except maybe Ninja.

Doubt you can reciprocate that thought though. You mentioned equality earlier, and since you also mentioned that you want intelligent discussion, perhaps you can tell us more about your views on equality. Note that I have not insulted you in any way so there's no reason to back off from this debate. Unless of course you are scared of a debate 

1. Do you believe in the existence of systemic racism? Explain it in detail why yes or no.

This would encompass things like race based discrimination in the job market, housing, loan applications, racial disparities in the criminal justice system, ... These are all backed up by scientific studies and statistics from courts, FBI, ... in the case of criminal justice.

A common example of such studies is where researchers send 2 identical resumes to loads of employers. The only difference between the two is that one has a name associated with being white, the other one associated with being black. There is a significant disparity in the amount of callbacks the resumes received. The ones with the black name received far less callbacks than the white name resumes.

There are countless other similar studies that irrefutably prove systemic racism.

2. What are your thoughts on the recent court rulings that have struck down several GOP voter ID laws for being racially discriminatory. Do you believe the courts are correct or are they wrong and there is no way a voter ID law can have a discriminatory effect. Explain in detail.

In the case of North Carolina, an NC republican strategist/consultant admitted that the law's intent was to disenfranchise black voters because they heavily lean democratic. The state also collected data on black voting patterns prior to passing their voter ID law.

3. Do you support equal rights for the LGBT community? That means gay marriage and anti-discrimination laws that protect them from being discriminated against because of their sexuality.

3.1 The GOP is strongly against both, what are your thoughts on that? They would like to see gay marriage overturned and through the First Amendment Defense Act, wish to effectively legalize businesses discriminating against the LGBT community under the guise of religious freedom.

The 2016 GOP platform, when it was first published described LGBT anti-discrimination regulations as "government discrimination against businesses" and made many references to gays being against the law of god and therefore not worthy of equal rights.

Mike Pence is a prime example. He has supported torturing gay people "to turn them straight"; commonly referred to as conversion therapy. He is now the vice president of the US, as you know.

You asked for intelligent discussion, then prove you are also up to the task by providing an elaborate response to these questions based on your earlier comments about equality.

 

[everysingletime]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump writes an executive order to mandate conversion therapy

 

[iamdef]

Just because you can find differences doesn't mean that they aren't similar.

Look at the difference between protestants and lutherans. It's so damn negligible that it isn't worth debating. The only people that want to are those who have an agenda.

Point blank both administrations imposed temporary bans on refugees from certain countries. That is the only fact that needs to be said.

I'll let you guys bicker about the minute differences so you can make yourselves feel better about your blatant hypocrisy.

Instead of creating parallels why not just post links of the similarities or a comparison?

 

[MVP]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump writes an executive order to mandate conversion therapy

That's for when Pence gets in charge

 

[IATT]

 

[krispacinla]

Yes. That's precisely what my argument is and I think I made a pretty good comparison to prove my point.

Why even argue with these left wings anymore?? Trump already crushed their dreams of Trillary being president. This particular type of people will be the downfall of AMERICA ONE DAY! I Give you props for putting up with this cause I am done with these cats