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If they leave again


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post #242 of 1305
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How does the city of Oakland feel about maybe the Raiders leaving?

why do they keep toying back and forth with Oakland & LA? I feel a franchise should stick in one city and if it leaves it has to get a new logo and colors


The Raiders represent the Raider Nation who cares where they play as long as they perform. Move them to Boise Idaho and have Uncle Rico QB for us if it means our Fourth Lombardi.

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post #243 of 1305
I feel the same way. I don't need the Raiders in Oakland or the East Bay to stay a fan. Wherever they are, I'm with them 100%
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post #244 of 1305
I'm with them no matter what, but would be extremely pissed if they leave the Bay again.
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Nah, if you invest hundreds of millions of dollars around that area, which is the type of investment it would be, the goons will most certainly not be coming.

What would come is change, I'm not sure how that change would affect that part of East Oakland but I'm very interested in gaining a better idea. 

Lets be honest...what investment group will try to build new apartments around that area....I can see a shopping plaza and movie theater tho, like emeryville....but first thing first ...gotta clean up that mess in city hall, she don't know what she's doing.
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How does the city of Oakland feel about maybe the Raiders leaving?

why do they keep toying back and forth with Oakland & LA? I feel a franchise should stick in one city and if it leaves it has to get a new logo and colors

Honestly, they can't let it happen. They already lost the Warriors. The A's are trying to get things together so they can go.
Part of me feels that the Rams or the Jaguars are going to be the ones to go to LA.
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Lets be honest...what investment group will try to build new apartments around that area....I can see a shopping plaza and movie theater tho, like emeryville....but first thing first ...gotta clean up that mess in city hall, she don't know what she's doing.


Yup. But hey, if they can make the mission and the tenderloin "hip and trendy" there is no reason they can't do the same for that area.
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How does the city of Oakland feel about maybe the Raiders leaving?

why do they keep toying back and forth with Oakland & LA? I feel a franchise should stick in one city and if it leaves it has to get a new logo and colors

Honestly, they can't let it happen. They already lost the Warriors. The A's are trying to get things together so they can go.
Part of me feels that the Rams or the Jaguars are going to be the ones to go to LA.

I feel like this is true, too. Just as Oakland bent over backwards for the Raiders to return in 1995 by raping the Coliseum, they'll again do whatever it takes to convince the organization to stay. And I'm sure the taxpayers will again be the ones who are forced to pay some outrageous sum for it happen.
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Lets be honest...what investment group will try to build new apartments around that area....I can see a shopping plaza and movie theater tho, like emeryville....but first thing first ...gotta clean up that mess in city hall, she don't know what she's doing.

 

They've already built new apartments in the area... 

 

I kinda hear where you coming from but if you think no one will invest in that area because of its location within East Oakland you're wrong. 

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What are people's thoughts on Adam Jones(formerly known as Pacman)?

Or kenny phillips?

I believe they are both to be free agents.
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What are people's thoughts on Adam Jones(formerly known as Pacman)?

Or kenny phillips?

I believe they are both to be free agents.

Pacman is a no-go, I feel. Reggie has stressed his concern about having high character guys before and those in the know with him have also made clear that he's not interested in problem characters.

Kenny Phillips would have fit the free-agent model that Reggie used last offseason, which was getting players with previous injuries and hoping they panned out. It didn't quite work this year, and with more money available to him I think he'll try to eschew away from that strategy.
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As a Raiders fan living in Hawaii I hope that the new Davis can get something done to stay in Oakland.

 

Im not entirely opposed to a move to LA, but the renders of Farmers Field are just gross. Doesn't say Raiders when you see it.

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As a Raiders fan living in Hawaii I hope that the new Davis can get something done to stay in Oakland.

Im not entirely opposed to a move to LA, but the renders of Farmers Field are just gross. Doesn't say Raiders when you see it.

Haha. In our season thread I brought up how nice it would be for the new stadium to be Raider-themed. Colored black, with some pirate stuff around. Better than Tampa Bay's smokin.gif
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As a Raiders fan living in Hawaii I hope that the new Davis can get something done to stay in Oakland.

Im not entirely opposed to a move to LA, but the renders of Farmers Field are just gross. Doesn't say Raiders when you see it.

Haha. In our season thread I brought up how nice it would be for the new stadium to be Raider-themed. Colored black, with some pirate stuff around. Better than Tampa Bay's smokin.gif

And by the bay like Jack London Square eek.gifpimp.gif

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A stadium that's all black on the outside would be so pimp.gif

 

kind of like the LASALLE College of Arts

 

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I want something with a retractable dome. Straight all black. So when seen from above it legit looks like a black hole.
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I wonder if temperature would be an issue with a black stadium. Maybe silver seats inside, black outside? I have no damn clue laugh.gif
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Honestly, they can't let it happen. They already lost the Warriors. The A's are trying to get things together so they can go.
Part of me feels that the Rams or the Jaguars are going to be the ones to go to LA.

The Jags are a no go they got a new owner who has already committed to the city of Jacksonville....He has the city all amped up and he is giving Nike 100% control to redo they logo and uni's he said he wants the Jags to be the Oregon of the NFL
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post #259 of 1305
I think the Chargers took themselves out of the running for LA as well. That leaves the Raiders and... the Vikings? Did they figure out their stadium situation officially?
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I think the Chargers took themselves out of the running for LA as well. That leaves the Raiders and... the Vikings? Did they figure out their stadium situation officially?

How about the Rams?
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@CSNAuthentic: #RAIDERS NEWS: Raiders to block off top of Mt. Davis http://t.co/zXMvVdTP (via @PGutierrezCSN)

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I think the Chargers took themselves out of the running for LA as well. That leaves the Raiders and... the Vikings? Did they figure out their stadium situation officially?

How about the Rams?

Rams also need a new stadium. After building the new Cards' stadium I wonder how open St. Louis is to fund another stadium. That's the thing with franchises who are not doing well: their leverage is less than it would be if they were competitive and drawing in more fans.

This is the reason that the Raiders are closing off Mt. Davis, I think. Instead of claiming sell outs by buying out a ton of tickets themselves, the organization is closing off a huge section of the stadium and lowering the price for the third deck. That almost assures sell outs in the smallest venue in the NFL by a large margin. There's more leverage when negotiating with the City of Oakland when you can demonstrate that you've sold out your stadium for 2+ seasons and you're fed up with a terrible environment.
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Rams also need a new stadium. After building the new Cards' stadium I wonder how open St. Louis is to fund another stadium. That's the thing with franchises who are not doing well: their leverage is less than it would be if they were competitive and drawing in more fans.

This is the reason that the Raiders are closing off Mt. Davis, I think. Instead of claiming sell outs by buying out a ton of tickets themselves, the organization is closing off a huge section of the stadium and lowering the price for the third deck. That almost assures sell outs in the smallest venue in the NFL by a large margin. There's more leverage when negotiating with the City of Oakland when you can demonstrate that you've sold out your stadium for 2+ seasons and you're fed up with a terrible environment.

I agree.
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I think the Chargers took themselves out of the running for LA as well. That leaves the Raiders and... the Vikings? Did they figure out their stadium situation officially?
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On April 18, 2012, after a Minnesota Legislature committee rejected a public financing proposal for the proposed new Minnesota Vikings stadium, the league met with Vikings owner Zygi Wilf and Minnesota governor Mark Dayton to discuss the potential sale and relocation of the Vikings franchise.[26] Soon after, Wilf met with Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa regarding the same topic, and indicated he would not renew the Vikings' lease on the Metrodome without a plan for a new stadium.[27] After a re-vote, the Minnesota House passed a stadium financing bill on May 8, albeit with less money than the Vikings were seeking.[28] The Senate passed the bill May 10, at which point the Vikings indicated they would be willing to accept the terms. This effectively eliminated the Vikings from the threat of relocation.

its wiki so take it with a grain of salt

looks like Vikings are getting a new stadium in Minnesota

(heard its gonna be a outside NON retractable roof stadium to embrace the cold of Mid West football)

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It makes sense, though. If half of your division is going to be playing outside, they possess that advantage over you if you don't. Playoff games in your home stadium become that much more daunting when your opponent comes from the sunny west coast. Also, in the event that the Super Bowl is ever played in an outdoor setting again, a potential cold climate would not concern them.
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For the stadium deal to work, The City of Oakland has to get its **** together

And that is why I feel the Raiders are the favorite to go to Los Angeles. Quan has been a terrible mayor for Oakland, and I doubt her and her administration are competent enough to put together a deal that is fair to the public and is satisfactory for the Raiders. Oakland has been without a qualified mayor who supports local teams for so long now, there's little hope that it will change anytime soon.
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post #267 of 1305
Mt. Davis was such a terrible idea. The damn thing was built for the Raiders in the first place and now they aren't even using it.
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They should just take the seats out laugh.gif


Even for concerts nobody sits up there

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What's Mt.Davis?

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What's Mt.Davis?



See where the stadium is raised in the top-middle? That was built in 1995 to convince the Raiders to leave Los Angeles and return to Oakland. It contains more seats, club seats, a bar and some other **** that Al Davis wanted. It was built purely to satisfy the Raiders and ruined what was considered at the time one of the better ballparks for baseball.



This was the Coliseum before Mt. Davis
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