Official 2013 NBA Draft Thread

Bazz will have more success if he can play the 2 but his handle/jumper is very suspect and he didn't seem very fast/explosive at UCLA though he did in HS.

What he has going for him is being a lefty, already having a little post game and his aggressiveness going to the rim/on the boards. With his size he could also be a good defender if he puts in the work.
 
Shabazz reminds me of Tyreke minus the ankle breaking handles.....
 
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rck2sactown said:
Shabazz reminds me of Tyreke minus the ankle breaking handles.....
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not even close to the same type of player at all
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Tell me more then. 

all you do is **** on everything 
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if I'm a GM of a lottery team this is the perfect draft for a Euro stash i. e. Jonas Valucuinas

I'm searching hard for player's measureables to fall in love with.
I think Cody Zeller may have launched himself back into Top 5 with his athleticism
 
Well the ankle breaking handle and variety of moves w/ the ball is what makes Tyreke, "Tyreke", so I can see the confusion over the comparison
 
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Well the ankle breaking handle and variety of moves w/ the ball is what makes Tyreke, "Tyreke", so I can see the confusion over the comparison
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A slashing, ball dominant guard, with no jumper and a knack at getting to the rim, I guess?
 
Vic 15 reps of 185 is impressive for a 2.

Tim HARDAWAY working hard to get into that 1st round... Why was he ever considered otherwise?

Tony Mitchell tho :pimp:
 
If your saying they are both cancer's and horrible guys to have on your team, then yea, you are definitely onto something.
 
[h1]NBA Draft 2013: Questions abound after combine measurements[/h1]
By Scott Coleman on May 17 2013, 9:06a  @scottcoleman55 1

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Nerlens Noel's weight, Otto Porter's long arms and Rudy Gobert's freakishly large body headlined the news out of Chicago.


Thursday marked the beginning of the 2013 NBA Draft Combine, and with every participant being weighed, measured and interviewed, it made for a very busy day in Chicago. Here's a look at how some of the future draftees checked in, courtesy of Chad Ford on Twitter.

Nerlens Noel, who many project as the No. 1 overall pick despite tearing his ACL just three months ago, checked in at 6'10 in socks and 6'11.5 in shoes. Compared to last year's top pick, Anthony Davis, Noel stands about an inch taller. Noel's wingspan was recorded at 7' 3.75" .
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While his length measurements were impressive, one potential red flag was raised: his weight. Noel weighed in at just 206 pounds, which is astonishingly low compared to other NBA centers. Davis was recorded at 222 pounds last summer and bulked up before the regular season began. Dwight Howard is listed at 265 pounds. Tyson Chandler plays at 240 pounds, while Joakim Noah weighs in the neighborhood of 230 pounds.

Noel is still only 19 years old and will continue to add weight as he develops physically, but he'll play at least his first professional season much lighter than other post players in the league. That could be an issue moving forward.

Kansas' Ben McLemore was measured at 6'3.5 in socks and 6'4.75 in shoes with a 6'7.75 wingspan. Victor Oladipo of Indiana was measured at 6'3.25 without shoes and 6'4.25 with shoes. He has even longer arms than McLemore, spanning 6'9.25. Oladipo is a freak athlete and can really defend, which has led many to believe he will be a top-five pick this summer.

Otto Porter's stock seems to be on the rise and an impressive physical showing on Thursday may help him even more. He checked in at 6'8.5 with shoes on, and his wingspan was recorded at 7'1.5. Porter fits the mold of a prototypical wing and is expected to be a top-three pick depending on how the lottery shakes out.

Shabazz Muhammad was recorded at 6'4.75 in socks and 6'6.25 in shoes. His wingspan is 6'11. There is no denying Muhammad has talent, although he will need to prove to NBA folks that he's more than just a shooter on the floor.

Some analysts once felt Cody Zeller could be a top-five pick. His game was exposed a bit this past season, often disappearing for stretches when Indiana needed him most. Zeller was an impressive 7'0.25 in shoes on Thursday, although his wingspan was just 6'10.75 and his standing reach was 8'10. It's still likely he ends up being a lottery pick, but there's no guarantee of a top-10 selection anymore.

Trey Burke, the National Player of the Year, helped his stock a bit after checking in at 6'1.25 in shoes with a 6'5.5 wingspan. The main knock on Burke is that he struggled with bigger defenders and/or zone defenses this past season, and his bigger-than-expected measurements should help improve his chances of being a top-five pick.

CJ McCollum is arguably the best shooter available in this year's class and some mock drafts have him going as high as No. 4 overall. McCollum broke his foot during the season and was out for the better part of three months, although he's reportedly back to 100 percent. He checked in at 6'2.25 in socks, 6'3.25 in shoes and has a 6'6.25 wingspan.

Rudy Gobert is one of the big wild cards in this year's draft. The Frenchman checked in at an astounding 7'2 in shoes with a 7'8.5 wingspan and 9'7 standing reach. That basically means he can dunk without jumping. Gobert is going to take time to develop, but he could become a force around the rim with his size and length.

Maryland big man Alex Len measured at 6'10.75 in socks, 7'0 in shoes and had a 9'1.5 standing reach.
 
Shabazz bout like 25 forreal.

And is Nerlens really that small? Damn. 
 
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Shabazz might just be one of those guys that in the end gets knocked down because of his reported, "mailing in the college season and preparing for the pros", but will turn out to be one of the best players in the draft.

Oladipo's bench numbers! :wow:

And Pope can certainly be a Top 10 selection Bigmike. He's already skyrocketing, and if a team with a Top 10 selection thinks he'll be one of the ten best players in the draft 5 years from now, why would you have any hesitance to take him that high? Just because the grades on him pre-draft weren't Top 10 worthy? :\ It's not like that's a crazy jump, he's already 12-13 in a lot of mocks.
 
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I never understood the point of a combine when there's years worth of game tape of which you could judge the player on more accurately. Someone's stock shouldn't rise or fall because of what they did there.

Sidenote, Shabazz really needs to stop using a razor on his face.
 
 
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I never understood the point of a combine when there's years worth of game tape of which you could judge the player on more accurately. Someone's stock shouldn't rise or fall because of what they did there.

Sidenote, Shabazz really needs to stop using a razor on his face.

 
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shabazz's face looking like those lil' debbie star crunch joints :lol:
 
A list of the representatives for tomorrow's draft lottery:

Orlando Magic - Magic Senior Vice President Pat Williams
Charlotte Bobcats - Bobcats President & COO Fred Whitfield
Cleveland Cavaliers - One of Nick Gilbert, Machine Gun Kelly, Tony Rizzo or a fan :lol:
Phoenix Suns - Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby
New Orleans Pelicans - Head Coach Monty Williams
Sacramento Kings - Head Coach Keith Smart
Detroit Pistons - Andre Drummond
Washington Wizards - Bradley Beal
Minnesota Timberwolves - Kevin Love
Portland Trail Blazers - Damian Lillard
Philadelphia 76ers - Sixers Owner Josh Harris
Toronto Raptors - Head Coach Dwane Casey
Dallas Mavericks - Mavericks General Manager Donnie Nelson
Utah Jazz - Jazz President Randy Rigby

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@Ryan_Lillis #NBAKings team representative tells me Coach Keith Smart will represent team at tomorrow's #NBA draft lottery
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I think Shabazz will be just fine in the NBA...probably yet another Ben Howland product that becomes very good on the next level....MUCH better than what he showed in college.
 
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I think Shabazz will be just fine in the NBA...probably yet another Ben Howland product that becomes very good on the next level....MUCH better than what he showed in college.
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ben howland system did zero to hold back tho infact UCLA played at a faster pace then it every has cause of the FR class and the only player that was held back and took it to another level in the NBA was jrue hoilday
 
Well, Shabazz interviewed really well and looks to be in better shape at 9% BF. Definitely a good look for him, still won't mean much if he has no ball skills, mediocre athleticism and tunnel vision.

You guys should know the combine numbers (except for the measurements) mean NOTHING. Some players test really well just based off technique and practice and it just doesn't translate to the basketball court (word to Jordan Farmar's 42 inch vert) and some guys don't measure well but are monster athletes (Durant most notably). This happens year after year. Although Harrison Barnes did kinda buck the trend - measured out better than expected than showed a lot more explosion in the NBA.
 
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