"Women Don't Need Men" (Nothing New But Solid Read)

i dont care what she makes....it who she is as a person is my point.... but one thing is and me and my old lady aree equal....she will cook clean etc...just as i will...she has taken out garbage...taken me out etc...outside of a special occasion or my bday etc... and has spent her money doing it and not mines...

She hell sunday did yard work....while i was gearing up for the big game.... and i helped the girls get they clothes ready etc.last night...We dont have this oh i make this or that so i dont have to compromise do this attitude. I dont say oh because im a man cook me dinner beitch...no more then she says because im a women open my door, you better pay take me out... We just see things need to be done and we do them. She has never came to me on some im independent and as such i dont have to wash cook etc...cause you are trying to oppress me..And i dont feel intimidated at her work achievements...or other accolades.....she has hell 2 degrees...i barely got an associates....i dont feel less then her...and she doesnt throw it in my face and sees it as her being better then me... we understand that just because our roles, and who we are are different doesnt make one job less/more important...

See nowadays women on that old lakers of kobe/shaq steez... Cant see that you both play an intricate part of the team...and despite having different roles and playing different positions...no one is more important or more valued then the other...I dont try to prove i can be a point...she doesnt try to prove she can be a center...just off the basis of well i can do what you do just to prove we the same. We look beyond that and see the bigger goal in winning the game of life.

pretty much.
 
women and men think differently, im a man, as a man i believe i should provide for my woman, i wouldnt feel comfortable having a woman support me, that doesnt mean she cant make more than me and i think thats where ya get it twisted, there is a difference between a bum a** uninspired dude and a dude who's simply in a lower pay bracket than his wife.
but thats not how you said it....so..i took it as you said it. Did you not see that dating special on women...i make 100,000 he makes 45,000 how is that a bum? i have 3 degrees from top universities...he has an associates at a local college.... i mean this is what tons of woman are saying...

I can honestly say it be hard pressed to find a man who says damn baby you fine and you got a good heart etc... but i went to mit and you went to devry so you out of the question... its not common place for a man to say i work as a head consultant making 100k a year and you just a mere admin asst... making 27k so you wont even get a look at let alone actual conversation or a date.
 
J-lo been with a rack of dudes...you seen who she was with the longest right?  Somebody close to her equal in money, fame, and age. That dude is a fling.
 
lulz que?


how is that relevant to my post?
YOU said no excuse for a man not to find a successful women, which by your definition would be what exactly? Because I got the feeling you based it on income.
 
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*I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO BE WITH A WOMAN MORE SUCCESFUL THAN ME.

Reason: I'm wired to compete. If she's able to provide, she has changed my personal definition of what a mans job is to do. In the back of my head, ill always be competing with her, I don't want to compete with my wife.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SUCESSFUL WOMEN
*problems occur when balance is interrupted.
Over 1,950 years, gender roles have been the same. And it worked. When women alter the balance of provider, they force a change in the definition of Man, husband, and father.

AND AS MEN, we aren't forced into changing into anything.

WHAT WOMAN USED TO BE GOOD AT..
Was guiding their men, supporting their man. But Now they want the support. They want the protection. They want the power. They want it all.

MEN DON'T KNOW how to be the counter to an alpha woman. Because we weren't raised this way. Society tells us to be strong.

And when a women is strong and a man is strong, a relationship can't happen. A family can't happen.

ANOTHER MISCONCEPTION
Is that woman aren't thought to be SUCESSFUL if all they do is raise a family. Raising a family is one of the hardest, and least appreciative things to accomplish. I FEEL THAT BEING A SUCESSFUL MOTHER And wife takes just as much work, strength. and dedication to be a SUCESSFUL worker. IT IS A SELFLESS ACT TO BE A PROPER MOTHER, while anyone can be a self centered SUCCESFUL worker.
 
Most dudes r efuse to date a woman that makes more cuz their decision making power goes out the window. Hard to be the head of the household when you not caking the most.

That's like being the leader of the team, but not the best @ 1 certain thing. It can be done, but its tough.

Men stay away from women that make more just like women stay away from guys that make less

Why are yay'all making it so complicated?

The samee dudes arguing for the yambs are the same dudes that refuse to hit a women If they punch you in the mouth cuz they can't "control their emotions"

You make more than me, control decision making, and get to punch me in the face? Nahhhh b.
 
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Gender roles are important. Not sayin woman cant do things
beyond the home, but that should be their primary focus.
If the nanny, tv, and effed up peers raise your kids, you CANNOT
blame anyone but YOU when they dont turn how you want.

Fathers are to provide financially, give family leadership (wit counsel
from wifey, they smart and see other perspectives). The family
thrives. Children know what a man and woman are to be.


Today them lines are beyond blurred creating mass confusion,
which is why princes boys, trans-ppl, criminal activity are occurring
more rapidly.

end times.
 
They only made the women "equal" to double the consumer base, increase university enrollment, and increase GDP.

Before she used to ask "can i buy this cute dress bla bla" and the man would say "no, make me a sandwich"

Now its like, "Make ur own sandwich, ima go buy this dress"

Corporations win.
 
Man Yall need to shut up. ***** and ******* been coming together to procreate for millions of years from every organism on this earth. Systems and themes of change come and go in human civilization but one thing is for certain men and women are going to get together and they gonna eat,drink, hang out and **** at a certain point who's dime its on dont matter. Just wait till these girls get in their late 20's and 30's and tell me if they not giving it up. Broke dudes with pizzazz be tearing through white collar, blue collar,fast food, retail,office, lawyer,model,doctor ***** like it ain't nada. What's a womans biggest weakness? Her emotions man, she can be a billionaire but she still gonna be a female and females need masculine energy in their lifes and to be on the company of men. ******* were made for ***** like i said. It's the very fabric of our existence. They aren't going anywhere and we aren't going anywhere. If a woman only values your masculinity off your ability to procure money and all respect is drawn from that you're in big trouble. There are billions of women on this planet just because a few hundred thousand are getting a little change doesnt mean the sky is falling. This article and discussion is pointless. If you want one of these chicks then just boss up. This **** ain't about sex, its about taking control of your life and your destiny. That's all that matters. I could really give a damn what these females out here are talking about because they arent talking about **** and neither are Yall. Yall acting like there aren't poor *** fine chicks. What you think is gonna happen to all these fine *** aspiring models,actresses,fashionistas and dancers that arent ever going to make it big? I'll tell you what, they gon be laying next to your cry baby ***. Let life run its ******g course and let order come out of this chaos. Ordo de chao for you conspiracy geeks. Peace and love
 
Man Yall need to shut up. ***** and ******* been coming together to procreate for millions of years from every organism on this earth. Systems and themes of change come and go in human civilization but one thing is for certain men and women are going to get together and they gonna eat,drink, hang out and **** at a certain point who's dime its on dont matter. Just wait till these girls get in their late 20's and 30's and tell me if they not giving it up. Broke dudes with pizzazz be tearing through white collar, blue collar,fast food, retail,office, lawyer,model,doctor ***** like it ain't nada. What's a womans biggest weakness? Her emotions man, she can be a billionaire but she still gonna be a female and females need masculine energy in their lifes and to be on the company of men. ******* were made for ***** like i said. It's the very fabric of our existence. They aren't going anywhere and we aren't going anywhere. If a woman only values your masculinity off your ability to procure money and all respect is drawn from that you're in big trouble. There are billions of women on this planet just because a few hundred thousand are getting a little change doesnt mean the sky is falling. This article and discussion is pointless. If you want one of these chicks then just boss up. This **** ain't about sex, its about taking control of your life and your destiny. That's all that matters. I could really give a damn what these females out here are talking about because they arent talking about **** and neither are Yall. Yall acting like there aren't poor *** fine chicks. What you think is gonna happen to all these fine *** aspiring models,actresses,fashionistas and dancers that arent ever going to make it big? I'll tell you what, they gon be laying next to your cry baby ***. Let life run its ******g course and let order come out of this chaos. Ordo de chao for you conspiracy geeks. Peace and love
he's right. hot chicks that are poor are pretty fun if you're doing ok for yourself.
 
exactly for the most part women want cake and eat it too...i wanna be independent treated equal seen as a man etc.... when it comes to the workforce etc.... but in all other aspects of life...then im not equal and wanna go back to the old school. thing is this is encouraged in society for women and discouraged in men.... a dude with a old school mentality is damn near unheard of and would be seen as barbaric, and not changing with the times...

a woman on the other hand is seen as pure and old fashion if had that old school mindset. The funny a most overused and false assumption is that men a superficial... outside of looks...that really is the only superficial aspect men judge women on...

women on the other hand its looks, and pretty much any thing of monetary value, or prestige. It is so commonplace now and social accepted as a norm...hell half the tv shows reality etc... is at its premised based on women in some aspect who are monetary and superficial thinking driven

A man is more inclined to date be with a women regardless of his income, as long as she is pretty and cool get along with... same in most part cant be said about a woman. Its gotten to the point where ppl have made careers of basically reinforcing these shallow values...ala the tyler perrys, steve harveys, etc...

Hell just look at dating shows...outside of looks, the whole premise of the guy is personality, and values... That ish is at the bottom of the list or not even mentioned at all by women..

If it isnt a certain degree, only eat goes to certain places, makes certain amount, into certain society set upper class etc... For most part what is happening is women are doing less, and being less compromising, and demanding more...on the basis of well if isnt my way...hell i dont need you cause i can have all the monetary value things i want with my newfound success, job etc...

No more oh well baby we should stay in and have a cooked meal...its oh nah you cheap and i wanna go to a five star restaurant...oh if you dont that just means you cheap and you dont have class you aint on my level.... thats cool ill just go with my gf's. Oh you want me to clean the house forget that hire a maid...im miss independent and you trying to lower me...

Its if you dont wanna go out and spend money on redic, overprice stuff just to show we got money...then you being cheap and i dont need you... and if you speak out and say look that is just foolish... society says oh girl he just cheap/broke or he dont have class.

I could g on and on...i was looking at a study, and despite women making more in many instances...in terms of savings and just overall net value..women have faaaaaaaar less to show for what they actually earn.

And to the point of single mothers....it is so many layers to that...that this whole butt hurt sons who think its mostly due to dudes just not wanting to be dads...actually believe this b.s. From a legal court system that makes a living from this...tanf/dfacs, family lawyers...so on and so forth...to the industrialized prison system...why do you think most gov programs are geared towards women...and most laws concerning laws in terms of the family structure all favor women?

Do you really think that the fact their isnt a single law...that enables a man to be a father...that even married you have absolutely no laws to protect your rights as a father?

Yea you have rights...but guess what rights arent laws... and rights have contingencies...all of them in which one form another is money being
spent...by who...? you guessed it men.

So essentially we live in a society were women are given liberties, without pretty much any repercussions or ramifications...and if men want them they have to get them in a form of rights...ie pay out money to get the same equalities...that women get just on the basis of being a woman.

A woman can go out have kids without absolutely no worries...whether its a man name sam, uncle sam.....in some form or fashion she and her family will be taken cared of. So the whole notion of a give and take and we need each other becomes null and void... IF at the end of the day i can choose do as i please, no compromise and at the end of the day still get what i want...(monetary value things) why would i need or hell even want to compromise? It be like your boss saying you can come to work and get paid and do some work you dont like, or go off and do as you please and either way you still get paid the same. Like really would it come as a surprised if the worker took off. What incentive would there be to come to work.

Im not a woman hater....but i mean end of the day we are asking if you could have your cake and eat it too would you...And for women its yes. Granted too much of the cake is bad for you...but thats hindsight...and that isnt realized till later own you have a tunny ache..but all while you eating it you just thinking how good this cake is...and how enjoyable it is. Thats the modern day often time single woman.

Have cake,eat all the cake...didnt wanna share...and then complain they gotta tummy ache...and look at everyone like why yall let me eat all this cake?
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Despite the feminist movement, there are still women that want men in their lives and a future family.  But more males need be more confident and secure themselves without being easily intimidated by anyone.
 
has any of this mentality affected your mothers personally? 
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Man Yall need to shut up. ***** and ******* been coming together to procreate for millions of years from every organism on this earth. Systems and themes of change come and go in human civilization but one thing is for certain men and women are going to get together and they gonna eat,drink, hang out and **** at a certain point who's dime its on dont matter. Just wait till these girls get in their late 20's and 30's and tell me if they not giving it up. Broke dudes with pizzazz be tearing through white collar, blue collar,fast food, retail,office, lawyer,model,doctor ***** like it ain't nada. What's a womans biggest weakness? Her emotions man, she can be a billionaire but she still gonna be a female and females need masculine energy in their lifes and to be on the company of men. ******* were made for ***** like i said. It's the very fabric of our existence. They aren't going anywhere and we aren't going anywhere. If a woman only values your masculinity off your ability to procure money and all respect is drawn from that you're in big trouble. There are billions of women on this planet just because a few hundred thousand are getting a little change doesnt mean the sky is falling. This article and discussion is pointless. If you want one of these chicks then just boss up. This **** ain't about sex, its about taking control of your life and your destiny. That's all that matters. I could really give a damn what these females out here are talking about because they arent talking about **** and neither are Yall. Yall acting like there aren't poor *** fine chicks. What you think is gonna happen to all these fine *** aspiring models,actresses,fashionistas and dancers that arent ever going to make it big? I'll tell you what, they gon be laying next to your cry baby ***. Let life run its ******g course and let order come out of this chaos. Ordo de chao for you conspiracy geeks. Peace and love
show me a well adjusted, great looking women on welfare...? You say they exist...i say different. A decent women who is 8 or better aint gone be broke period...not happening.... As far as the fake wannabes actresses etc...strippers etc...if they hold up looks they will find someone that will marry and support them....or moreso then likely have kids and like i said still will be taken care of whether it be baby daddies or tax dollars....

Let me ask you how many young homeless women you see...? Exactly...and if they are 10/10 they on drugs prostitution at some point....Show me a drug free decent good looking homeless chick. If you a woman and so long as your legs can spread you can be fed.
 
You kind of reinforced what I was saying tho....... Instead of the extreme examples you used of homelessness and prostitition you pretty much said the same thing as me. Eventually women will "settle" and the settle down. You are also incredibly inaccurate with your statement about women that are 8's and up not being broke. You should go to LA,Miami,Atlanta, or NYC to find plenty of very attractive girls that are bartenders,waitresses,hostesses,nannys,assistants etc thay are just getting by. A drug free decent looking homeless chick? That's kind of not possible considering a high percentage of homeless people are homeless because of DRUGS.......... You guys on this board have such a pedestal behavior about good looking women like they're some obtainable object of myth and legend. These chicks aren't all dating ball players and living the life of luxury off some man's dime. Go out or and interact with people. I know more "broke" cute women the I do good looking ones. Hell I know a girl that has been posted in one of the appreciation threads on here personally and she has a unemployed boyfriend that she is obsessed with. Life isnt as black and white as this article portrays is all im saying.
 
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You kind of reinforced what I was saying tho....... Instead of the extreme examples you used of homelessness and prostitition you pretty much said the same thing as me. Eventually women will "settle" and the settle down. You are also incredibly inaccurate with your statement about women that are 8's and up not being broke. You should go to LA,Miami,Atlanta, or NYC to find plenty of very attractive girls that are bartenders,waitresses,hostesses,nannys,assistants etc thay are just getting by. A drug free decent looking homeless chick? That's kind of not possible considering a high percentage of homeless people are homeless because of DRUGS.......... You guys on this board have such a pedestal behavior about good looking women like they're some obtainable object of myth and legend. These chicks aren't all dating ball players and living the life of luxury off some man's dime. Go out or and interact with people. I know more "broke" cute women the I do good looking ones. Hell I know a girl that has been posted in one of the appreciation threads on here personally and she has a unemployed boyfriend that she is obsessed with. Life isnt as black and white as this article portrays is all im saying.[/quot

That's not true been to la. And a good friend/family friend of mines runs if not the biggest one of the biggest shelters in Georgia in Atlanta. I've helped and volunteered there for decades. And I aint never seen no hallie berrys in that joint. I seen some decent ex hookers/junkies etc.... And even then the only reason they there is because there dangerous and distructive lifestyles lead them there, or away from they free govt. ride ala DFCS etc.... and the kids were removed.

The whole notion of a decent well to do woman without is lol. That it is one of the biggest hustles 501c3, churches etc... Are running. Women assistance and shelter scam/sham. Hell if I didn't have a moral compass now, of jump on the holy immoral bandwagon. But despitey lack of belief, I won't gouge and use the faith believers...I'll leave that to the faith followers leaders to do that.
 
You kind of reinforced what I was saying tho....... Instead of the extreme examples you used of homelessness and prostitition you pretty much said the same thing as me. Eventually women will "settle" and the settle down. You are also incredibly inaccurate with your statement about women that are 8's and up not being broke. You should go to LA,Miami,Atlanta, or NYC to find plenty of very attractive girls that are bartenders,waitresses,hostesses,nannys,assistants etc thay are just getting by. A drug free decent looking homeless chick? That's kind of not possible considering a high percentage of homeless people are homeless because of DRUGS.......... You guys on this board have such a pedestal behavior about good looking women like they're some obtainable object of myth and legend. These chicks aren't all dating ball players and living the life of luxury off some man's dime. Go out or and interact with people. I know more "broke" cute women the I do good looking ones. Hell I know a girl that has been posted in one of the appreciation threads on here personally and she has a unemployed boyfriend that she is obsessed with. Life isnt as black and white as this article portrays is all im saying.
not true..... 33% of homeless ppl are distraught/misplaced former or current armed service vets..... and many of them are/or eventually on drugs due to hardships and depression and ptsd....Not quite the same as just a flat out drunk/druggie who had it all and wasted their lives away.

I dont have a high pedestal for good looking woman....but the saying a man can loose money chasing women, but never loose women chasing money is true for a reason. If you see a powerful, well to do man...regardless of the womans characters/flaws etc... they will be around that well off man.

And its not even about the broke issue...its the fact that you could be a well education, highly skilled, man who is a decent looking man and a mishap here and there and find themselves homeless arsed out in the streets.... with no help....especially in terms of a women coming to assist you...

You could be a dumb stupid broad and if you hot...its gonna be a cat that thinks girl you to fine to be broke etc...in the street. not only that you still have the ace in the hole of getting pregnant.

You kinda cosigned my point on your story about the chick.... she is cute etc...broke because she chooses to be with her unemployed bf... So the option to leave and just have a guy support/take care of her etc.... is there, she just let love/foolishness etc...put her in that place.

You cant compare and say someone who directly made decisions to place them in a hardship, is the same as a person indirect actions..or uncontrollable circumstances leading them to a hardship.
 
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