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Michelle Fairley would get it. She played someone rich on Suits and would wear rich cougar clothes and talk in her accent. Would bend her over a desk and attack with some Valyrian steel.

And Winter shall come, word to Ned Stark.
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Not sure if this was posted but a cool read:
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The Common Tongue is spoken in Westeros, but that's not the case across the Narrow Sea. Missandei's translations for Daenerys and her entourage are the work of David Peterson, the linguist who created Dothraki, High Valyrian and multiple dialects of Low Valyrian. By his own estimate, Peterson has crafted over 5,000 words.

Peterson shares the unique challenges of creating languages for the show, writing dialogue for Dany and what 'Monty Python' has to do with Meereen.

HBO: How did the culture of Essos influence you the languages you created?

David Peterson: Two major factors come into play. First, the topography of the area, which helps determine what these people do and don't have words for, and what their lifestyle is like. I think about these people and ask: "What are their lives supposed to be like?", "Who do they interact with on a regular basis?" and "How do those interactions shape their own culture?"

The second factor is their level of technology. The world of 'Game of Thrones' is at a significantly lower level of technology than the modern world. And in the case of Dothraki, they are at a technology level that's below even that. It seems that their culture is very insular. They don't let their interactions with other people influence their lifestyle. What that said to me is that the Dothraki are going to have words for their own lifestyle, and they may borrow other terms. For example, the Dothraki word for "book" is borrowed from Valyrian.

HBO: Was your process similar for creating Valyrian?

David Peterson: Valyrian is a very different type of language. We don’t really have a window into the Valyrian culture at all. It's one of the great mysteries in the book series. Furthermore, the culture and all of the speakers are now dead. The language has been handed down from generation to generation and it's a fossil of a bygone era.

In that sense, it's been difficult for me. Human experiences are always going to be roughly the same, so I can come up with words for how people feel and basic things like that, but I haven't gone out on too much of a limb on the culture. I tried to stay away from things that describe daily life.

That isn't the same with the Low Valyrian speakers. While they've inherited the language, they've also inherited some words from their own culture – Ghiscari. They're a living people, so I can use what I know about Slaver's Bay to inform the language a bit.

HBO: Can you give an example where High and Low Valyrian differ?

David Peterson: The Low Valyrian that the slavers speak takes a lion's share of its vocabulary from High Valyrian, but most of the terms regarding the slave trade have been taken from Ghiscari. The word for "slave" in High Valyrian – which Daenerys would know –doesn't look anything like the word for "slave" in Low Valyrian, and I did this on purpose to kind of distinguish the two. Back in Season 3, Daenerys she uses Low Valyrian word – "buzdari" – when speaking to the slaves: “Zaldrizes buzdari iksos daor,” a dragon is not a slave. It makes her point more forceful and makes sure that they absolutely understand what she's saying.

HBO: Do you pass along any tips to the actors when they're learning the language?

David Peterson: I did with Dothraki. I didn't really do so with Season 3 or Season 4, and honestly, I haven't needed to. The cast has gotten better and better at working with these languages as the show has progressed.

HBO: Are any words you created based on your personal life?

David Peterson: Oh yeah – my wife has a word in every language. Her name is Erin, which is the basis for "kind" in Dothraki. My cat's name is Keli and the word for "cat" in High Valyrian is "kēli."

HBO: Have you planted any Easter eggs in the show?

David Peterson: One of the biggest is from Episode 3 this season. There's a scene where the Meereenese rider is challenging Daenerys' champion. He's shouting and Nathalie Emmanuel [Missandei] is translating – but she's not translating what he's saying. He's actually saying a Low Valyrian translation of the French guy's insults in 'Monte Python and the Holy Grail.' That was [series creator] Dan Weiss's idea and it was so hilarious that I had to do it.

HBO: Have fans caught on?

David Peterson: They know that something's going on. Right after that episode aired, I was getting tweets like, "Is he saying a 'your momma' joke?" Close… But no, he's actually starting out with, "Your mother is a hamster."

HBO: Out of all the words you've created, do you have a favorite?

David Peterson: A lot of my favorites end up coming from High Valyrian because that language is just shamelessly pretty. It was completely indulgent. I'll stick with the word for dragon: "Zaldrizes."
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How can I get a job creating fake languages?

Can I just Photoshop up a dodgy certification and get started?
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Pretty sure you spelled Cersei's name wrong laugh.gif

see? laugh.gif so make that four.

Four names.
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How can I get a job creating fake languages?

Can I just Photoshop up a dodgy certification and get started?

The guy who made dothraki has a masters in linguistics so im gonna say no, you can't laugh.gif
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^ I was gonna say lol

It's hard enough to piece the people together through history and physical geography but to incorporate multiple languages (fake and real) seems like an impossible task.

How dude came up with Valyrian is genius. Due to their location( under essos=eurasia and being washed away akin to Atlantis)

On top of that the valyrians resemble scandinavians, when you would think they would resemble the greeks or romans due to location.

Even as someone engrossed in human anthropology and history, it would seem almost impossible to do.
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is there a new ep tonight? nerd.gif
also these are the people i know on top of my head right now Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
sansa, bran, rickon, jon, arya, rob, ned, catlyn
osha, hodor, old nan, pycell, robert, stannis, renly
tywin, tyrion, jamie, cersei, joffrey, tommen, marcella, kevan,
theon, asha, victor, omg... i forgot the dads name
peter, varys, visary, danny, drogo, barrensten, lord friendzone laugh.gif
pod the god, red viper, bronn, ramsy,
the rest i have faces for but i forgot their names atm mean.gif
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Yeah new episode tonight. Show has only skipped a week once during the 1st season.
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Ned getting offed was 'eh.

My man Tyrion better 2step out this courtroom a free man.

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Finally. All caught up. pimp.gif Will join LIVE for the first time tonight.
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Ned getting offed was 'eh.

My man Tyrion better 2step out this courtroom a free man.

Link me to the vine your avy is from
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Oh hell no Shae!
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But yo, 8 minutes til 10 and it ends? What the hell is this shh? mean.gif
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That was the fastest hour episode I've ever seen

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best 10 minutes of the season.

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I love how he delivered those lines smokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gifsmokin.gif
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masterful performance by tyrion da gawd pimp.gif

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Great episode too bad it went by quick. Time to watch Mad Men.
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Best episode of the season, by far.  Can anyone clarify on what happened in the last part of the Theon scene?  What did he do to make his sister say he's dead?

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I'm glad Tyrion finished strong. My man been having a rough season.
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Great episode too bad it went by quick. Time to watch Mad Men.

Yes sir. Best two hour block of the week.
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Tyrion with that ether.
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great speech. And even after 4 seasons, I still can't get used to lena headeys hair. Awful job
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Best episode of the season, by far.  Can anyone clarify on what happened in the last part of the Theon scene?  What did he do to make his sister say he's dead?

He wasn't the same I guess she was ashamed.

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Best episode of the season, by far.  Can anyone clarify on what happened in the last part of the Theon scene?  What did he do to make his sister say he's dead?

He didn't go with her when she gave him the chance to and went back in the cage. Seeing his mindset and situation.. she feels he's a lost cause so she's done trying to get him back.
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Personally felt the episode was very slow, but it moved along the story well.
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Tyrion manning up to hell with begging go out like a OG
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