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Official Photography Thread: Vol. ICan'tFindTheLastOne
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can anyone help me with my question from last page, thank you.
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^Hall of Science?
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Had my first experience trying to take photos at a concert today... DAMN was I unprepared. I decided that it'd probably be easiest for me to use shutterpriority mode so I could try to minimize blur, but I had to max out my ISO to get decent pictures... I was also trying to use flash as little as possible as itmade a lot of pictures turn out really harsh, but that's probably because I didn't adjust the shutter and ISO enough to compensate? I was also prettyunhappy with my DOF in a lot of photos. I'm using a Canon S3, btw.
Here's a couple of pictures...
EXTREMELY NOISY, I know... big sigh.
Here's one that I wasn't happy with the DOF... or is it just motion blur?
Same deal with this one...
So next time, what should I think of and consider more? Any other general tips, preferably more on the technical side?
Here's a couple of pictures...
EXTREMELY NOISY, I know... big sigh.
Here's one that I wasn't happy with the DOF... or is it just motion blur?
Same deal with this one...
So next time, what should I think of and consider more? Any other general tips, preferably more on the technical side?
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^^I'd say use a faster shutter speed.
Nachobroadway, I would've tried to use a flash on the first, but that pics good.
Someone any crits on my pic, on the previous page?
Nachobroadway, I would've tried to use a flash on the first, but that pics good.
Someone any crits on my pic, on the previous page?
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^ that will probably be difficult though.
I am assuming you were on aperture priority mode to make it as big as possible.
You just need a bigger aperture - but probably something only a SLR can manage. My biggest aperture is f/1.8 compared to yours at probably f/3.5 or something.
That's a big difference and may let you use a lower ISO to get rid of some of that noise.
I like them though - they have nice atmosphere and the motion blur doesn't detract from them - makes them a little more interesting.
The white balance varies a little between them - was that on auto?
I am assuming you were on aperture priority mode to make it as big as possible.
You just need a bigger aperture - but probably something only a SLR can manage. My biggest aperture is f/1.8 compared to yours at probably f/3.5 or something.
That's a big difference and may let you use a lower ISO to get rid of some of that noise.
I like them though - they have nice atmosphere and the motion blur doesn't detract from them - makes them a little more interesting.
The white balance varies a little between them - was that on auto?
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^^There any reason you can't or don't want to use a flash. I noticed googling your camera it doesn't have hotshoe but nonetheless I think flashwould definitely be helpful. Most important it would allow you to lower the iso to remove the noise, and secondarily it would help freeze motion both in theflash itself and the shutter speed it would provide aswell as helping balance the exposure and white balance. Ideally I wouldn't want to use just a head onlittle on camera flash all by itself (i.e. no difussing or bouncing) but without a hotshoe I don't know what to tell you.
"Someone any crits on my pic, on the previous page?" - nocomment6
I have huge problem with B/W digital and your photos are perfect example of it. And if you want to shoot B/W more power to you, I think it's ridiculous butend of the day do you... One of these days I'll have to make an example myself. Digital cameras shoot in color, when you make them b/w you're justdestaturating the color. B/W functions on contrast of light and dark and clearly inbetween. If you took a picture with B/w film and then one with even colorfilm and then destaturated it even if they were both ideal exposures they'd look quite different. And even more to the point film has signifcantly greatertonal range/contrast range which is pretty much what B/W hinges on.
So getting to your photos and really the vast majority of B/W digital in this post of late. You have to play up the contrast, it's an absolute must. Juststraight out the camera they're so flat and single tone heavy (usually it's middle tone, but depending on how you expose the shot, they could be reallydark or light tone heavy) it's ridiculous. So you have to push the contrast more, because other wise they sit in this tiny tonal range thats usually makethem super flat pulls all the depth out of them. Like NachoBroadway's are the same, that all in all they're not horrid photographs by any means butthey sit in this really static tonal range that while you're never going to touch B/W contrast range you can definitely do better by pushing the contrast.
"Someone any crits on my pic, on the previous page?" - nocomment6
I have huge problem with B/W digital and your photos are perfect example of it. And if you want to shoot B/W more power to you, I think it's ridiculous butend of the day do you... One of these days I'll have to make an example myself. Digital cameras shoot in color, when you make them b/w you're justdestaturating the color. B/W functions on contrast of light and dark and clearly inbetween. If you took a picture with B/w film and then one with even colorfilm and then destaturated it even if they were both ideal exposures they'd look quite different. And even more to the point film has signifcantly greatertonal range/contrast range which is pretty much what B/W hinges on.
So getting to your photos and really the vast majority of B/W digital in this post of late. You have to play up the contrast, it's an absolute must. Juststraight out the camera they're so flat and single tone heavy (usually it's middle tone, but depending on how you expose the shot, they could be reallydark or light tone heavy) it's ridiculous. So you have to push the contrast more, because other wise they sit in this tiny tonal range thats usually makethem super flat pulls all the depth out of them. Like NachoBroadway's are the same, that all in all they're not horrid photographs by any means butthey sit in this really static tonal range that while you're never going to touch B/W contrast range you can definitely do better by pushing the contrast.
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I was just gonna may Nacho's black and white photos are all grey. no contrast.
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I see what you're sayin, thanks for the tip. Here's a coloured verion, but I think colours in this case are unnecesary, I'll try using morecontrast next time.
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^How are the colors unnecessary? I'm kind of at loss to your logic.
Or more importantly I would ask how is it better in B/W? just in your opinion. Because you showed us it in B/W first so I'm just curious as to yourlogic/though process in deciding what should or shouldn't be in B/W.
Or more importantly I would ask how is it better in B/W? just in your opinion. Because you showed us it in B/W first so I'm just curious as to yourlogic/though process in deciding what should or shouldn't be in B/W.
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kdwallace - Nah, aperture priority wasn't working out for me because it created such a shallow depth of field... and then when I tried toraise the f-stops the shutter speed got to be ridiculously long... so I had it on shutter speed priority. But yeah, I was on auto white balance... Ididn't feel like trying to adjust the white balance with how quickly the lighting changed between white, red, blue, etc.
Haha, so basically I just need a DSLR to get better pictures? I don't get press passes to get into shows, these are just for my own personal enjoymentfrom the shows that I go to... which sadly means that they'd stop me from bringing a proper flash, much less a DSLR. I tried to minimize the use of myflash so that the venue staff wouldn't get pissed off at me... it was bad enough that the S3 almost looks like it's a DSLR, so I tried not to pushtheir buttons. Plus, for some reason or another I'm just a lot happier with pictures without flash... here's one that I used flash on (I haven'ttouched these next ones up at all, so don't mind the red eye and whatnot...)
Compare to this one with no flash...
I feel that because the flash lights up the background, it eliminates some of the cool lighting effects that are happening on stage (not to mention that itmakes the rafters visible instead of maintaining a shroud)... for instance, I really like how you can see that there are both red and white lights in thesecond picture because they alter the atmosphere. I don't know if I'm describing this effect correctly or not, but I hope you can get an idea as towhat I'm talking about.
For my cases, is it really just a tradeoff between capturing the lighting how I want it (no flash) and lowering noise/eliminating motion blur (with flash)? Oris there some secret to flash that I just don't know about yet? Thanks a lot you guys.
Haha, so basically I just need a DSLR to get better pictures? I don't get press passes to get into shows, these are just for my own personal enjoymentfrom the shows that I go to... which sadly means that they'd stop me from bringing a proper flash, much less a DSLR. I tried to minimize the use of myflash so that the venue staff wouldn't get pissed off at me... it was bad enough that the S3 almost looks like it's a DSLR, so I tried not to pushtheir buttons. Plus, for some reason or another I'm just a lot happier with pictures without flash... here's one that I used flash on (I haven'ttouched these next ones up at all, so don't mind the red eye and whatnot...)
Compare to this one with no flash...
I feel that because the flash lights up the background, it eliminates some of the cool lighting effects that are happening on stage (not to mention that itmakes the rafters visible instead of maintaining a shroud)... for instance, I really like how you can see that there are both red and white lights in thesecond picture because they alter the atmosphere. I don't know if I'm describing this effect correctly or not, but I hope you can get an idea as towhat I'm talking about.
For my cases, is it really just a tradeoff between capturing the lighting how I want it (no flash) and lowering noise/eliminating motion blur (with flash)? Oris there some secret to flash that I just don't know about yet? Thanks a lot you guys.
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dbao, i have a canon s3 as well and im having a very hard time taking clear pictures INDOORS. u got any tips???
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Hahaha, we're exactly in the same boat! I try to stay in aperture priority mode as much as possible because it makes the most logical sense to me...especially with being brand new to taking photos, I can only guess what range of shutter speed I should be using for a given moment, so I let the S3 calculateit for me.
Obviously, nothing beats great lighting, so when I'm taking pictures inside I first pick out the best white balance (usually the tungsten setting unlessyou're under fluorescent lights) and then I try to play around with the aperture. As I stated above, I tend to like my pictures better if they're takenwithout flash because, at least with the results I've gotten so far, it tends to either wash out my subject (too close?), light up the background in a waythat I don't want it to be, or makes the background completely dark (also too close?)... but this is all probably just because I don't know how to usemy camera to the fullest extent yet! Every once in a while, though, I'll get a result with flash that I'm happy with.
So many tweakable settings to master... maybe I should really take a class? Haha...
Obviously, nothing beats great lighting, so when I'm taking pictures inside I first pick out the best white balance (usually the tungsten setting unlessyou're under fluorescent lights) and then I try to play around with the aperture. As I stated above, I tend to like my pictures better if they're takenwithout flash because, at least with the results I've gotten so far, it tends to either wash out my subject (too close?), light up the background in a waythat I don't want it to be, or makes the background completely dark (also too close?)... but this is all probably just because I don't know how to usemy camera to the fullest extent yet! Every once in a while, though, I'll get a result with flash that I'm happy with.
So many tweakable settings to master... maybe I should really take a class? Haha...
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No smoke.
I'm picking up a 50mm f/1.8 this weekend. looking forward to manual focusing and also learning a whole lot about composition.
I'm picking up a 50mm f/1.8 this weekend. looking forward to manual focusing and also learning a whole lot about composition.
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You're gonna like the 50mm.
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They definitely are grey, but PS is a give & take, you either blast the contrast & lose the details, or keep it personal. You're allowed toedit any pic to show the contrast difference.
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hello.
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nice pic santi, did you make a light box? if possible can you show me a pic of yours? i tried making one myself and it turned out horrible!
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Ehh..
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Thanks,
Yeah, I made a quick light box last week. small, but I just wanted to test it out. for the sides I just used regular printer paper instead ofthe tracing paper recommended by others, I used some table laps I had laying around, no floodlights which were also recommended.
I taped some aluminum foil at the top of the box to reflect / bounce? some light to the object.
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car photos.
2-24 car pics
and that planet thing
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That's a good one. I've been fiddling around with some of those but haven't had a chance to get out and take a proper 360 panoramic.
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qksLvrtypeS - stunning stuff... I like the 'Chasing the Integra' one the most...
