The Official Nike Air Max 90 Thread

seandon23 said:
 
difference between you and i is that i dont care for exclusivity in the least.

if i think something looks good and i find it comfortable enough for me to wear I'm gonna buy it regardless of how exclusive whatever the product is. just because i prefer a market where you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to buy things or shouldn't have to pay a ridiculously inflated price due to hype/exclusivity in the aftermarket means i/others who share my sentiments should shop from brands at walmart? lol that just sounds stupid my guy.

you just sound like a hype beast from your last post

why is this such a bad thing? this is great for us so we shouldn't have to put in as much work for things we would like to buy

why things going to Marshalls and Ross a bad thing b? just sounds made beasty
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There is nothing wrong with things going to Marshalls and Ross...I buy from Marshalls, Ross, thrift stores, consignment stores, etc ALL THE TIME. The point I was trying to make has much more to do with the amount of pairs that are produced than where they end up. My point is all about the flooding of the market. IMO, The entire flooding of the market makes things undesirable to ME (and, by the way things are looking - to others, as well). IMO, the hunt for a pair of sneakers is almost as fun as owning the pair. Finding the pair I've been looking for on every sales rack in America is not fun to me...nor is it interesting. 

I'd say my favorite AM 90 in the world is the DQM 90's from 2004/2005 cuz I used to go DQM and bug that dude Dave Ortiz about getting his own model of AM90's all the time. I think he came with a great concept and the execution was perfect. Does that make me a hypebeast cuz I'm glad they didn't end up on sales shelves at Ross or Marshalls? The fact that I've never seen a pair on anyone else's foot makes me like them even more. If I saw them at Ross or Marshall's I'd be happy as hell to have them at that kind of price, but not if they were on the shelves of every Ross or Marshall's in America because there would be no story to that pair, for me.

My whole point was about the flooding of the market. Hypebeast or not, the hunt is a big part of what I enjoy. I don't think there's a single person in here who would look at my collection and say 'ohhh that's dope' because I have so many random shoes and have no cohesion to my collection. I think when the hunt is no longer there - that's probably when I'll stop buying sneakers. I think that cheapens the desire and, therefore, cheapens the brand. 
 
Sneaker Savant said:
 
There is nothing wrong with things going to Marshalls and Ross...I buy from Marshalls, Ross, thrift stores, consignment stores, etc ALL THE TIME. The point I was trying to make has much more to do with the amount of pairs that are produced than where they end up. My point is all about the flooding of the market. IMO, The entire flooding of the market makes things undesirable to ME (and, by the way things are looking - to others, as well). IMO, the hunt for a pair of sneakers is almost as fun as owning the pair. Finding the pair I've been looking for on every sales rack in America is not fun to me...nor is it interesting. 

I'd say my favorite AM 90 in the world is the DQM 90's from 2004/2005 cuz I used to go DQM and bug that dude Dave Ortiz about getting his own model of AM90's all the time. I think he came with a great concept and the execution was perfect. Does that make me a hypebeast cuz I'm glad they didn't end up on sales shelves at Ross or Marshalls? The fact that I've never seen a pair on anyone else's foot makes me like them even more. If I saw them at Ross or Marshall's I'd be happy as hell to have them at that kind of price, but not if they were on the shelves of every Ross or Marshall's in America because there would be no story to that pair, for me.

My whole point was about the flooding of the market. Hypebeast or not, the hunt is a big part of what I enjoy. I don't think there's a single person in here who would look at my collection and say 'ohhh that's dope' because I have so many random shoes and have no cohesion to my collection. I think when the hunt is no longer there - that's probably when I'll stop buying sneakers. I think that cheapens the desire and, therefore, cheapens the brand. 
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+100000... For the overall sentiment and the DQM Bacons as best all time AM 90. I was late for my own sister's wedding copping those. Still worth it in my opinion. 
 
It's brand power. We gravitate toward Nike, not just for their product, but for their brand. The power of the Swoosh on our feet makes us feel a certain way. It's cool, it's a status symbol. Nike has it's low end, basic essentials products. The regular plain tees and shirts you can grab at Ross or JCPenney, but it also has overpriced Tech Fleece pants, $800 Super Bowl jackets, and shoes that people are willing to dedicate an entire morning, or day, to copping. Nike is the greatest marketing machine the world has ever known. It can tell us stories and get us to buy into things we didn't even know we wanted to hear or buy into. It's why people are shelling out multiple car payments for a decorated box with a pair of shoes and a hat.

You can't flood the market with every shoe all the time because then people aren't chasing the shoes, the shoes are chasing the people.
 
Sneaker Savant said:
 
As bad as it sounds, a part of the reason some of us like certain shoes and styles is because they are not immediately or as easily accessible and available to the general public. I don't like going somewhere and seeing every single person wearing the same shoes I spent a bunch of cash for, as I'm sure most of us here don't. Exclusivity is not THE only thing, but I think it is definitely a part of why we like what we like. As a consumer, yea, I like sales - but not if those same sales are contributing to everyone and their mother getting the same pairs I like...
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Sneaker Savant said:
 
There is nothing wrong with things going to Marshalls and Ross...I buy from Marshalls, Ross, thrift stores, consignment stores, etc ALL THE TIME. The point I was trying to make has much more to do with the amount of pairs that are produced than where they end up. My point is all about the flooding of the market. IMO, The entire flooding of the market makes things undesirable to ME (and, by the way things are looking - to others, as well). IMO, the hunt for a pair of sneakers is almost as fun as owning the pair. Finding the pair I've been looking for on every sales rack in America is not fun to me...nor is it interesting. 

I'd say my favorite AM 90 in the world is the DQM 90's from 2004/2005 cuz I used to go DQM and bug that dude Dave Ortiz about getting his own model of AM90's all the time. I think he came with a great concept and the execution was perfect. Does that make me a hypebeast cuz I'm glad they didn't end up on sales shelves at Ross or Marshalls? The fact that I've never seen a pair on anyone else's foot makes me like them even more. If I saw them at Ross or Marshall's I'd be happy as hell to have them at that kind of price, but not if they were on the shelves of every Ross or Marshall's in America because there would be no story to that pair, for me.

My whole point was about the flooding of the market. Hypebeast or not, the hunt is a big part of what I enjoy. I don't think there's a single person in here who would look at my collection and say 'ohhh that's dope' because I have so many random shoes and have no cohesion to my collection. I think when the hunt is no longer there - that's probably when I'll stop buying sneakers. I think that cheapens the desire and, therefore, cheapens the brand. 
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Olympus said:
 
It's brand power. We gravitate toward Nike, not just for their product, but for their brand. The power of the Swoosh on our feet makes us feel a certain way. It's cool, it's a status symbol. Nike has it's low end, basic essentials products. The regular plain tees and shirts you can grab at Ross or JCPenney, but it also has overpriced Tech Fleece pants, $800 Super Bowl jackets, and shoes that people are willing to dedicate an entire morning, or day, to copping. Nike is the greatest marketing machine the world has ever known. It can tell us stories and get us to buy into things we didn't even know we wanted to hear or buy into. It's why people are shelling out multiple car payments for a decorated box with a pair of shoes and a hat.

You can't flood the market with every shoe all the time because then people aren't chasing the shoes, the shoes are chasing the people.
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thank you.  and im sure this applies to other aspects of our lives.  im a snob about many things, other things not so much, some things, not at all.  sneakers, cars, tattoos, music, the way i train in the gym and pizza.  the rest, give me bottom of the barrel. 
 
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Olympus said:
You can't flood the market with every shoe all the time because then people aren't chasing the shoes, the shoes are chasing the people.
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I wish I could have stated my multiple paragraphs as eloquently as this sentence right here... 

This is it in a nutshell.
 
Sneaker Savant said:
I wish I could have stated my multiple paragraphs as eloquently as this sentence right here... 
This is it in a nutshell.
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For the sneaker head I understand that's the mindset. But keep in mind sneaker heads are a niche market. The fact that after Nike, sketchers is the second best selling sneaker brand proves that. The reasons sneakerheads buy shoes is not the reason 99% of the market does. A lot of people talk down on Nike flooding the market as if its a bad business move when in actuality Nike has never been more profitable. They're following the money and i don't hate them for it. They're giving their everyday consumer the option to buy the the styles that made the brand iconic.
 
jdfrenchbread23 said:
For the sneaker head I understand that's the mindset. But keep in mind sneaker heads are a niche market. The fact that after Nike, sketchers is the second best selling sneaker brand proves that. The reasons sneakerheads buy shoes is not the reason 99% of the market does. A lot of people talk down on Nike flooding the market as if its a bad business move when in actuality Nike has never been more profitable. They're following the money and i don't hate them for it. They're giving their everyday consumer the option to buy the the styles that made the brand iconic.
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this. i see nothing wrong with what they are doing 
 
seandon23 said:
this. i see nothing wrong with what they are doing 
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Me neither. And I mean outside of the Internet and social media how flooded is the market with people's grails? As much complaining as there is I don't see tons of people wearing infrareds or neon 95s or whatever in person.
 
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jdfrenchbread23 said:
Me neither. And I mean outside of the Internet and social media how flooded is the market with people's grails? As much complaining as there is I don't see tons of people wearing infrareds or neon 95s or whatever in person.
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Yeah I hardly see many people rocking the same thing. When I'm on campus and just walking around in NJ or NY I see a huge variety of kicks. The irony to me is that only time I see people rocking the same stuff are the sneaker heads out camping/ waiting in line for raffles. They all wear the same hyped stuff and blend together it's funny that they tend to complain about shoes being produced too much but they all tend to rock the same stuff regardless like sheep
 
seandon23 said:
Yeah I hardly see many people rocking the same thing. When I'm on campus and just walking around in NJ or NY I see a huge variety of kicks. The irony to me is that only time I see people rocking the same stuff are the sneaker heads out camping/ waiting in line for raffles. They all wear the same hyped stuff and blend together it's funny that they tend to complain about shoes being produced too much but they all tend to rock the same stuff regardless like sheep
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EXACTLY. Fact of the matter is even if a shoe that sneaker heads deem valuable becomes a gr and becomes available for everyone to buy chances are the average customer is still going to default to a pair of black/white roshes or something safe and neutral.
 
For those looking for the Curry/Shanghai 90s check your local Champs stores.

Just seen a pair yesterday.
 
jdfrenchbread23 said:
For the sneaker head I understand that's the mindset. But keep in mind sneaker heads are a niche market. The fact that after Nike, sketchers is the second best selling sneaker brand proves that. The reasons sneakerheads buy shoes is not the reason 99% of the market does. A lot of people talk down on Nike flooding the market as if its a bad business move when in actuality Nike has never been more profitable. They're following the money and i don't hate them for it. They're giving their everyday consumer the option to buy the the styles that made the brand iconic.
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Yeah, but the reason why people, casual or not, are wearing Nikes is because they’re cool. And they’re cool for a litany of reasons including the hype around various models and lines and you create that hype with limited colorways, sell outs, mass marketing, word of mouth, major endorsers, etc. They may put out a million air max 90s, but they balance it with an OVO release or some limited foams.
 
Olympus said:
Yeah, but the reason why people, casual or not, are wearing Nikes is because they’re cool. And they’re cool for a litany of reasons including the hype around various models and lines and you create that hype with limited colorways, sell outs, mass marketing, word of mouth, major endorsers, etc. They may put out a million air max 90s, but they balance it with an OVO release or some limited foams.
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Again nikes average consumers arnent sneaker heads who have special interest in the limited shoes. They aren't concerned with limited editions, special release, or release dates for that matter. That's people within Sneakerhead bubble. I'm willing to bet that nikes massive marketing/media presence, and the famous people who rep Nike bring in significantly more people than the fact that the fragment x jordan 1 is a limited shoe.
 
jdfrenchbread23 said:
Again nikes average consumers arnent sneaker heads who have special interest in the limited shoes. They aren't concerned with limited editions, special release, or release dates for that matter. That's people within Sneakerhead bubble. I'm willing to bet that nikes massive marketing/media presence, and the famous people who rep Nike bring in significantly more people than the fact that the fragment x jordan 1 is a limited shoe.
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But we're not talking about Nike x any collaboration. We're talking about iconic gr sportswear silhouettes that could potentially be filtered into your average consumers repertoire.

I see plenty of non sneakerheads rocking crazy colors, more than I would ever wear. Soccer moms and all types of people at the gym with those wacky color splashed asics. Neon kicks everywhere during the summer. It's not a niche market, its just a market. 80s/90s style is in right now. So the affinity of a model like infrareds could be your commonplace average wear. Especially if it gets exposure at places [like marshalls].
 
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