R.I.P Trayvon

beh235 said:
Yeah, she's definitely clear on her definitions of positioning. I like how she made sure that you look past the dried blood, which paints a picture that his injuries don't look as dramatica once it was cleaned up. Methinks she's participated in such trials before as an expert
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She said she has, and O'Mara mentioned this as saying you have done this before, but quit, aka quit before being dimissed only to all of a sudden be seen as a expert independent for cases again in another county by the same judge you had.

In short she had a judge she worked under doing this in one county, that judge left. Shorty after the witness today was fired (aka she left and quit) And then went and got a job in another district that the judge she formally worked with/under, just in time for this case.
 
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shoelyesses said:
but what he is saying or trying to say is that she was recommended by a judge from the district especially for this case and is getting paid, in some attempt to say she is "tainted" and is being paid off. And also since she quit the district she was once in, he brought basically you quit because you was going to get fired. So how credible are you, is what his angle is.
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and you see how fast he got off that train....

she's too smart and he realized that **** REAL QUICK.... now he's just chucking up threes in garbage time.
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Hittin him with these factual medical science combo blows and OMara is just trying to make something stick at this point :lol:
 
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shoelyesses said:
but what he is saying or trying to say is that she was recommended by a judge from the district especially for this case and is getting paid, in some attempt to say she is "tainted" and is being paid off. And also since she quit the district she was once in, he brought basically you quit because you was going to get fired. So how credible are you, is what his angle is.
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and you see how fast he got off that train....

she's too smart and he realized that **** REAL QUICK.... now he's just chucking up threes in garbage time.
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^ :lol: yeah pretty much. Even that aside, her explanation is good, regardless of how she left her jobs. Can't refute her explanations, she's not leaving any ambiguity and calling out any ambiguity of evidence presented to her.
 
011781 said:
shoelyesses said:
but what he is saying or trying to say is that she was recommended by a judge from the district especially for this case and is getting paid, in some attempt to say she is "tainted" and is being paid off. And also since she quit the district she was once in, he brought basically you quit because you was going to get fired. So how credible are you, is what his angle is.
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and you see how fast he got off that train....

she's too smart and he realized that **** REAL QUICK.... now he's just chucking up threes in garbage time.
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what she say to counter that argument???
 
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011781 said:
you know how this ***** always giving these "well what if this ......" and "could this be true....."  fairly tale *** hypotheticals....

she is DESTROYING this man.... like it's not even fair what's happening right now

and all her answers are from a medical standpoint ... and from her decades of experience.... she's not letting him make **** up and she's VERY CLEAR as to what story the injuries tell

O'Mara is trying SO HARD to dispute her with his "general knowledge" as if he's a ******g physician....
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but what he is saying or trying to say is that she was recommended by a judge from the district especially for this case and is getting paid, in some attempt to say she is "tainted" and is being paid off. And also since she quit the district she was once in, he brought basically you quit because you was going to get fired. So how credible are you, is what his angle is.
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Even if this were the case as you are alluding to, her testimony still lines up with what the other doctor/medical expert said about George Zimmerman's injuries.  Which were that his injuries were NOT life threatening, and all that was required was a band-aid and maybe a lollipop to send him on his way. 
 
this medical examiner ain't here for the bull LMAOOOOO, she keeping it all the way real and ain't agreeing with anything Omara trying to trick her with
 
it must really annoy her for a lawyer with no medical background to sit here and dispute something she's been doing her ENTIRE LIFE....
 
His whole head bended

If you look at the bloody nose photos his face is all slender

looking at the station pics his head is more rounded

But I'm sure photoshop is impossible to be used in the case as well
 
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011781 said:
it must really annoy her for a lawyer with no medical background to sit here and dispute something she's been doing her ENTIRE LIFE....
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Right I'd be like "excuse me what medical school did you attend sir"? "I have told you repeatedly that your claims are beyond believable"
 
so the defense is trying to say that, Martin couldve hit him a dozen times, but they just didnt show up on Zimmerman
 
Runnin Thangz said:
Wrong, as there are laws against those who are not members of law enforcement.
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Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person. Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series of actions that occur over a period of time. Although stalking is illegal in most areas of the world, some of the actions that can contribute to stalking can be legal, such as gathering information.
LyonBC1 said:
^^so we are supposed to assume that 17 yr olds are certified paralegals with regard to the laws?? And aggressor is not cut and dry binary. That is totally subjective, I can yell at someone right up at their face and some may not consider that non threatening. Then I could raise my voice and some would consider that threatening in their eyes, others consider throwing a punch or even pushing being an aggressor.

I can argue that if GZ would have initiated contact by identifying himself as neighborhood watch captain and told Trayvon this off the bat then TM would've likely said oh ok I'm going back to my dads I just came from the store. Then nothing at all would have happened and both people wouldn't have their lives wither ended or have their name tarnished.
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 You don't have to be a paralegal to know not to assault people and I'm sure that by 17 you know better. Aggressor meaning he who attacks first. The fact that so few people seem ready to confront is that neither Martin nor Zimmerman acted blamelessly. The question about who crossed the criminal line first or most egregiously is certainly worthy of a trial, but creating one type of monster or another is just reinforcing this Cracked guy's point.
[h2]Society Controls You by Manipulating Your Hate Addiction[/h2]
Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-humanity-desperately-wants-monsters-to-be-real/#ixzz2Xuqqnfeb
 
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CelticsFan9783 said:
Exactly. That's how the law works in FL and other places. And I agree it's pretty twisted.

That's why you always hear people say "I didn't throw the first punch." Throwing the first punch is nearly always considered the most aggravating factor and used in self-defense counter-arguments.

But if you think about it, being followed isn't necessarily grounds for attacking, because it sets a horrible precedent and slippery slope.

Example: I'm walking through the city at night. Someone's following me, at every turn, I become alarmed and punch him in the mouth. What if he was gonna ask me for directions, hand me a club flyer, ask for change, etc.?

See how that could be perceived as a slippery slope? That would create an incredibly schizophrenic community if every time you become paranoid, you could strike. That's why law is so interesting. So much open for interpretation.

And it's also important to know what exactly happened in this case. What if he was cornered and GZ said something threatening? What other alternative does a scared 17 year old have? Maybe he feared for his life? That's another possibility. No one knows though.
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See your not telling the whole sitatuion.

IF your in fear because your hiding duck and dodging away from a person that keeps following then the person get out his car to hunt you down in darkness your dang right your in the right to defend yourself.

Let me get followed and somebody get out their car and surprise me from behind, im knocking that person asking question later
 
O'Mara is PISSED...

the look on his face when he said "6 times" was ******g priceless LOL...

he is so mad and frustrated right now....
 
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what she say to counter that argument???
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She said I left because it was a new and better position, and I was not hired by her because I am independent she only recommended me as a expert for this county, because at the time she was working for the city. So in other words she left a city position to a county position and was recommended by the judge of the county/city she once worked for.

He made it seem like she was her boss, but she wasn't she was a judge of the city she worked in, who moved on to be a state judge and recommended her (the witness) to a county position in which she being the judge resides in.

She was never her boss or superior in no point, which O'Mara was trying to portray it as, aka showing favoritism. As if a judge has the power of a governor.

Sure her words the judge could sway the governor decision, but she being the judge cant outright appoint someone, only the governor can.
 
ring the bell judge, just ring the bell...

O'Mara on the ropes getting beat like Clubber Lang did Rocky in their first fight....
 
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Runnin Thangz said:
Wrong, as there are laws against those who are not members of law enforcement.
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Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person. Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series of actions that occur over a period of time. Although stalking is illegal in most areas of the world, some of the actions that can contribute to stalking can be legal, such as gathering information.
LyonBC1 said:
^^so we are supposed to assume that 17 yr olds are certified paralegals with regard to the laws?? And aggressor is not cut and dry binary. That is totally subjective, I can yell at someone right up at their face and some may not consider that non threatening. Then I could raise my voice and some would consider that threatening in their eyes, others consider throwing a punch or even pushing being an aggressor.


I can argue that if GZ would have initiated contact by identifying himself as neighborhood watch captain and told Trayvon this off the bat then TM would've likely said oh ok I'm going back to my dads I just came from the store. Then nothing at all would have happened and both people wouldn't have their lives wither ended or have their name tarnished.
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 You don't have to be a paralegal to know not to assault people and I'm sure that by 17 you know better. Aggressor meaning he who attacks first. The fact that so few people seem ready to confront is that neither Martin nor Zimmerman acted blamelessly. The question about who crossed the criminal line first or most egregiously is certainly worthy of a trial, but creating one type of monster or another is just reinforcing this Cracked guy's point.

[h2]Society Controls You by Manipulating Your Hate Addiction[/h2]


Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-humanity-desperately-wants-monsters-to-be-real/#ixzz2Xuqqnfeb
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You said TM should know the stand your ground law . If anyone is trying to make someone a monster here it's GZs legal team concerning TM, assuming he has some kind of hidden hulk strength which I'm sure you can see, in the expert opinion of a doctor didn't happen. Or Trayvon was throwing feather punches which doesn't exactly constitute life threatening injuries.

And to your underlined points, how are you gathering information if you follow someone and not identify yourself as a friendly ignite my imposing potential threat or harm. He didn't have a uniform, he needed to say I am captain of neighborhood watch, I am wondering what you're doing then this would never happen
 
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